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Mikey
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      08-05-2011
I've got a Toshiba flaptop running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. It tries to download it.
The byte counter never advances, and after 18-20 minutes, it times out and when I
retry, it fails with error code 800B0100. I run the tool that's supposed to fix that,
it says it succeeded, I retry the SP1 install.

The cycle repeats.

My internet (DSL) connection is good, I've tried turning off my AV, still no joy.
I've tried it with both a wired and wireless connection to the modem. I found an MS
page to download a bunch of separate files and the instruction to download what you
need. I haven't a clue what to do with that.

I've read that SP1 doesn't have any major improvements, and may even break something.
I'd like to get it installed though, because if I can't do SP1, I probably won't be
able to do SP2.

Any tips appreciated.

Mike

 
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      08-05-2011
On 8/5/2011 4:29 PM, Mikey wrote:
> I've got a Toshiba flaptop running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. It tries to
> download it. The byte counter never advances, and after 18-20 minutes,
> it times out and when I retry, it fails with error code 800B0100. I run
> the tool that's supposed to fix that, it says it succeeded, I retry the
> SP1 install.
>
> The cycle repeats.
>
> My internet (DSL) connection is good, I've tried turning off my AV,
> still no joy. I've tried it with both a wired and wireless connection to
> the modem. I found an MS page to download a bunch of separate files and
> the instruction to download what you need. I haven't a clue what to do
> with that.
>
> I've read that SP1 doesn't have any major improvements, and may even
> break something. I'd like to get it installed though, because if I can't
> do SP1, I probably won't be able to do SP2.
>
> Any tips appreciated.


<http://www.redmondpie.com/free-windows-7-sp1-service-pack-1-dvd-from-microsoft/>

Have you tried the Readiness Tool?

<http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/174071-win-7-sp1-error-800b0100.htm>l
 
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      08-05-2011
On 8/5/2011 4:40 PM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 8/5/2011 4:29 PM, Mikey wrote:
>> I've got a Toshiba flaptop running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. It tries to
>> download it. The byte counter never advances, and after 18-20 minutes,
>> it times out and when I retry, it fails with error code 800B0100. I run
>> the tool that's supposed to fix that, it says it succeeded, I retry the
>> SP1 install.
>>
>> The cycle repeats.
>>
>> My internet (DSL) connection is good, I've tried turning off my AV,
>> still no joy. I've tried it with both a wired and wireless connection to
>> the modem. I found an MS page to download a bunch of separate files and
>> the instruction to download what you need. I haven't a clue what to do
>> with that.
>>
>> I've read that SP1 doesn't have any major improvements, and may even
>> break something. I'd like to get it installed though, because if I can't
>> do SP1, I probably won't be able to do SP2.
>>
>> Any tips appreciated.

>
> <http://www.redmondpie.com/free-windows-7-sp1-service-pack-1-dvd-from-microsoft/>
>

Thanks for that. I ordered one. Shipping $6.41.

> Have you tried the Readiness Tool?


Yep, that was the fix tool I mentioned.
>
> <http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/174071-win-7-sp1-error-800b0100.htm>l


That URL points to what appears to be a registry scanner, and a scan that purports to
replace damaged or missing Windows files. Is that correct? I'm a bit skeptical of
both of them.
>


 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
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      08-05-2011
In message <j1hjqr$fkp$>, Mikey <> writes:
>I've got a Toshiba flaptop running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. It tries
>to download it. The byte counter never advances, and after 18-20
>minutes, it times out and when I retry, it fails with error code
>800B0100. I run the tool that's supposed to fix that, it says it
>succeeded, I retry the SP1 install.
>
>The cycle repeats.

[]
Sometime this week I installed something (on XP) that decided it needed
..net 3.5, and offered to fetch it; I let it try. It had five goes and
gave up ("attempting to re-establish contact with server" or something
like that). Tried again a day or two later, and it went fine - so I
concluded that there had been a problem with the Microsoft server. Maybe
you hit the same problem. (Though probably not - I didn't get an error
code when I retried, just the same "trying ..." message.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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Joe Morris
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      08-06-2011
"Mikey" <> wrote:

> I've got a Toshiba flaptop running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. It tries to
> download it. The byte counter never advances, and after 18-20 minutes, it
> times out and when I retry, it fails with error code 800B0100. I run the
> tool that's supposed to fix that, it says it succeeded, I retry the SP1
> install.
>
> The cycle repeats.
>
> My internet (DSL) connection is good, I've tried turning off my AV, still
> no joy. I've tried it with both a wired and wireless connection to the
> modem. I found an MS page to download a bunch of separate files and the
> instruction to download what you need. I haven't a clue what to do with
> that.
>
> I've read that SP1 doesn't have any major improvements, and may even break
> something. I'd like to get it installed though, because if I can't do SP1,
> I probably won't be able to do SP2.


Look at the faux-news posting:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-b48c2b318d31/

It's written against Vista and the procedure (near the bottom) might look
rather hairy to you but it sounds like your problem.

Joe Morris


 
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Yousuf Khan
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      08-06-2011
On 05/08/2011 4:29 PM, Mikey wrote:
> I've got a Toshiba flaptop running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. It tries to
> download it. The byte counter never advances, and after 18-20 minutes,
> it times out and when I retry, it fails with error code 800B0100. I run
> the tool that's supposed to fix that, it says it succeeded, I retry the
> SP1 install.
>
> The cycle repeats.


I had a similar problem several months ago, the only solution at the
time was to stick the original Win7 install disk in and do an "In-Place
Upgrade" install of Windows 7, which basically brings you back to an
original unpatched Windows 7 state, but keeps all of your programs
installed (major bonus, don't need to reinstall the applications). After
you do this, then you immediately apply the full SP1 on it, before
applying any other patches to it.

I believe Microsoft came out with some patches that fixed this problem a
few months after I no longer needed it. Here's a description of these
patches:

Patch Tuesday updates fix a trio of Windows 7 SP1 glitches | ZDNet
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/patch...-glitches/3286

I have my doubts that these patches will fix anything either, judging by
the quality of Microsoft patches in the past, but I'm just cynical, they
may work perfectly for you.

If it doesn't work, then you'll have to do the In-Place Upgrade Install
method I mentioned above. It takes a while to do this one, but it makes
your system pristine, it may end up fixing other problems for you.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Mikey
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      08-06-2011
On 8/5/2011 6:30 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <j1hjqr$fkp$>, Mikey <> writes:
>> I've got a Toshiba flaptop running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. It tries to download
>> it. The byte counter never advances, and after 18-20 minutes, it times out and when
>> I retry, it fails with error code 800B0100. I run the tool that's supposed to fix
>> that, it says it succeeded, I retry the SP1 install.
>>
>> The cycle repeats.

> []
> Sometime this week I installed something (on XP) that decided it needed .net 3.5, and
> offered to fetch it; I let it try. It had five goes and gave up ("attempting to
> re-establish contact with server" or something like that). Tried again a day or two
> later, and it went fine - so I concluded that there had been a problem with the
> Microsoft server. Maybe you hit the same problem. (Though probably not - I didn't get
> an error code when I retried, just the same "trying ..." message.)


Probably not. This has been going on for over 2 weeks now.
 
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      08-06-2011
On 8/6/2011 1:25 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> On 05/08/2011 4:29 PM, Mikey wrote:
>> I've got a Toshiba flaptop running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. It tries to
>> download it. The byte counter never advances, and after 18-20 minutes,
>> it times out and when I retry, it fails with error code 800B0100. I run
>> the tool that's supposed to fix that, it says it succeeded, I retry the
>> SP1 install.
>>
>> The cycle repeats.

>
> I had a similar problem several months ago, the only solution at the time was to
> stick the original Win7 install disk in and do an "In-Place Upgrade" install of
> Windows 7, which basically brings you back to an original unpatched Windows 7 state,
> but keeps all of your programs installed (major bonus, don't need to reinstall the
> applications). After you do this, then you immediately apply the full SP1 on it,
> before applying any other patches to it.
>
> I believe Microsoft came out with some patches that fixed this problem a few months
> after I no longer needed it. Here's a description of these patches:
>
> Patch Tuesday updates fix a trio of Windows 7 SP1 glitches | ZDNet
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/patch...-glitches/3286
>
>
> I have my doubts that these patches will fix anything either, judging by the quality
> of Microsoft patches in the past, but I'm just cynical, they may work perfectly for you.
>
> If it doesn't work, then you'll have to do the In-Place Upgrade Install method I
> mentioned above. It takes a while to do this one, but it makes your system pristine,
> it may end up fixing other problems for you.
>
> Yousuf Khan


Your suggestion sounds like a good one. Unfortunately, I have no Win CD. It came
pre-installed, no media.

I do have a licensed copy of Win7 Pro, but I don't think that would repair a Win7
Home install, would it?

 
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Mikey
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      08-06-2011
On 8/5/2011 9:00 PM, Joe Morris wrote:
> "Mikey"<> wrote:
>
>> I've got a Toshiba flaptop running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. It tries to
>> download it. The byte counter never advances, and after 18-20 minutes, it
>> times out and when I retry, it fails with error code 800B0100. I run the
>> tool that's supposed to fix that, it says it succeeded, I retry the SP1
>> install.
>>
>> The cycle repeats.
>>
>> My internet (DSL) connection is good, I've tried turning off my AV, still
>> no joy. I've tried it with both a wired and wireless connection to the
>> modem. I found an MS page to download a bunch of separate files and the
>> instruction to download what you need. I haven't a clue what to do with
>> that.
>>
>> I've read that SP1 doesn't have any major improvements, and may even break
>> something. I'd like to get it installed though, because if I can't do SP1,
>> I probably won't be able to do SP2.

>
> Look at the faux-news posting:
>
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-b48c2b318d31/
>
> It's written against Vista and the procedure (near the bottom) might look
> rather hairy to you but it sounds like your problem.
>
> Joe Morris
>
>

There are a couple in there that are hairy. Which one are you referring to?

As far as I can tell, SP1 never downloads. If it did, do you know where MS stashes it?
 
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Paul
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      08-06-2011
Mikey wrote:
> On 8/6/2011 1:25 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> On 05/08/2011 4:29 PM, Mikey wrote:
>>> I've got a Toshiba flaptop running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. It tries to
>>> download it. The byte counter never advances, and after 18-20 minutes,
>>> it times out and when I retry, it fails with error code 800B0100. I run
>>> the tool that's supposed to fix that, it says it succeeded, I retry the
>>> SP1 install.
>>>
>>> The cycle repeats.

>>
>> I had a similar problem several months ago, the only solution at the
>> time was to
>> stick the original Win7 install disk in and do an "In-Place Upgrade"
>> install of
>> Windows 7, which basically brings you back to an original unpatched
>> Windows 7 state,
>> but keeps all of your programs installed (major bonus, don't need to
>> reinstall the
>> applications). After you do this, then you immediately apply the full
>> SP1 on it,
>> before applying any other patches to it.
>>
>> I believe Microsoft came out with some patches that fixed this problem
>> a few months
>> after I no longer needed it. Here's a description of these patches:
>>
>> Patch Tuesday updates fix a trio of Windows 7 SP1 glitches | ZDNet
>> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/patch...-glitches/3286
>>
>>
>>
>> I have my doubts that these patches will fix anything either, judging
>> by the quality
>> of Microsoft patches in the past, but I'm just cynical, they may work
>> perfectly for you.
>>
>> If it doesn't work, then you'll have to do the In-Place Upgrade
>> Install method I
>> mentioned above. It takes a while to do this one, but it makes your
>> system pristine,
>> it may end up fixing other problems for you.
>>
>> Yousuf Khan

>
> Your suggestion sounds like a good one. Unfortunately, I have no Win CD.
> It came pre-installed, no media.
>
> I do have a licensed copy of Win7 Pro, but I don't think that would
> repair a Win7 Home install, would it?
>


When I did my SP1 upgrade, the first thing I did, was a backup.
That's so, if it got stuck or got stuck in a loop, it would be
possible to recover. I made a sector by sector image, so nothing
could get lost. That was my fallback plan.

I didn't do mine via Windows Update, instead preferring to download
the necessary file. The download ends up being much much larger
than it needs to be, by doing that, but the advantage is, if
there is a failure, you're not paying for the same download
sequence over and over again. Your misery comes in smaller bursts.

Windows 7 (and Windows Server 2008 R2) Service Pack 1 (KB976932)

http://www.microsoft.com/download/en...s.aspx?id=5842

7601.17514.101119-1850_Update_Sp_Wave1-GRMSP1.1_DVD.iso 1.0 GB

Windows_Win7SP1. ... .AMD64CHK.Symbols.msi 262.0 MB
Windows_Win7SP1. ... .AMD64FRE.Symbols.msi 287.0 MB
Windows_Win7SP1. ... .IA64CHK.Symbols.msi 241.0 MB
Windows_Win7SP1. ... .IA64FRE.Symbols.msi 193.0 MB
Windows_Win7SP1. ... .X86CHK.Symbols.msi 294.0 MB
Windows_Win7SP1. ... .X86FRE.Symbols.msi 330.0 MB

windows6.1-KB976932-IA64.exe 511.0 MB
windows6.1-KB976932-X64.exe 903.0 MB
windows6.1-KB976932-X86.exe 537.0 MB

You should find the DVD size represents the combination of several
of the other files.

The symbol files, are used for running a debugger. So you
don't need those.

The three at the bottom, are for Itanium computers, 64 bit OS, 32 bit OS
respectively. People don't usually have Itanium computers as a desktop,
leaving the two bottom files as the important ones. I downloaded the 903.0MB
one and installed with that on my 64 bit Windows 7 install. It's about
nine times larger than if done via Windows Update, as it would contain
more info than my particular install might need. But, if I ever need to
reinstall from scratch, the file is waiting for me.

I ran the system readiness tool, before doing SP1. No problems
were indicated (and neither did the symptoms suggest it was
needed). I ran it, mainly to see what would happen :-) It is
supposed to check the "store", which is a folder containing
all versions of the OS and its associated files, linked to
other parts of the file system via hard links.

If I were to spend money on anything, it would be to get a
DVD from Microsoft, of Windows 7 SP1 as an OS installer disc.
The reason for that, is after you install SP1 via the above
file, your "repair install" options in the future are
strictly limited. For example, if you use the special
option in Disk Cleanup, after SP1 is installed, to remove
the SP1 backup files, there would then be no uninstall option
for SP1, no going backwards. So rather than Microsoft offering
a DVD with just the SP1 file on it, instead they should be
offering a real Windows 7 SP1 disc, so you can do a repair
install if you want.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...r-install.html

Paul
 
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