Win7 holding onto to docts. Recycle bin won't empty.

Although I can't access the registry to make any changes as it's a
work computer, does anyone know how to change this behaviour? Win98SE
was the best for allowing users complete control whereas XP starting
deciding what we could and couldn't work with easily. But at home
with XP, no problem. I wrested control back from XP by installing
great freeware Unlocker a long time back and anything WinXP or other
programs has its grip on, I release with Unlocker then I can rename,
move, delete, etc.

But other than doing a very tedious workaround at work via deleting
via CMD DOSbox, haven't figured out how to tell Win7 that I'm in
command and not it. Something like 19 out of 20 files/folders it
won't release. I finally figured out that I can actually move these
files so I move them to my flash drive and delete there via "DOS" (UNC
paths are giving me problems with my scripting language as I haven't
figured out how to work with them yet, whereas my flash drive has a
drive letter that I can deal with).

Any tips that don't involve registry and/or adminstrator rights, which
I don't have? One should be able to rename, delete files at will when
necessary and Win7 is making this unnecessarily difficult.

Also, any way to empty the recyle bin? Clean up manager doesn't do a
thing. I have to move things out of recycle bin and delete with them
in the same "DOS" way.

Thx.

On 15-Sep-11 9:16 AM, StargateFan wrote:
> Although I can't access the registry to make any changes as it's a
> work computer, does anyone know how to change this behaviour? Win98SE
> was the best for allowing users complete control whereas XP starting
> deciding what we could and couldn't work with easily. But at home
> with XP, no problem. I wrested control back from XP by installing
> great freeware Unlocker a long time back and anything WinXP or other
> programs has its grip on, I release with Unlocker then I can rename,
> move, delete, etc.
>
> But other than doing a very tedious workaround at work via deleting
> via CMD DOSbox, haven't figured out how to tell Win7 that I'm in
> command and not it. Something like 19 out of 20 files/folders it
> won't release. I finally figured out that I can actually move these
> files so I move them to my flash drive and delete there via "DOS" (UNC
> paths are giving me problems with my scripting language as I haven't
> figured out how to work with them yet, whereas my flash drive has a
> drive letter that I can deal with).
>
> Any tips that don't involve registry and/or adminstrator rights, which
> I don't have? One should be able to rename, delete files at will when
> necessary and Win7 is making this unnecessarily difficult.
>
> Also, any way to empty the recyle bin? Clean up manager doesn't do a
> thing. I have to move things out of recycle bin and delete with them
> in the same "DOS" way.

Where on your computer are these files/folders located? Full path.

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:16:28 -0400, StargateFan wrote:

> Although I can't access the registry to make any changes as it's a
> work computer, does anyone know how to change this behaviour? Win98SE
> was the best for allowing users complete control whereas XP starting
> deciding what we could and couldn't work with easily. But at home
> with XP, no problem. I wrested control back from XP by installing
> great freeware Unlocker a long time back and anything WinXP or other
> programs has its grip on, I release with Unlocker then I can rename,
> move, delete, etc.
>
> But other than doing a very tedious workaround at work via deleting
> via CMD DOSbox, haven't figured out how to tell Win7 that I'm in
> command and not it. Something like 19 out of 20 files/folders it
> won't release. I finally figured out that I can actually move these
> files so I move them to my flash drive and delete there via "DOS" (UNC
> paths are giving me problems with my scripting language as I haven't
> figured out how to work with them yet, whereas my flash drive has a
> drive letter that I can deal with).
>
> Any tips that don't involve registry and/or adminstrator rights, which
> I don't have? One should be able to rename, delete files at will when
> necessary and Win7 is making this unnecessarily difficult.
>
> Also, any way to empty the recyle bin? Clean up manager doesn't do a
> thing. I have to move things out of recycle bin and delete with them
> in the same "DOS" way.
>
> Thx.

Are you sure that your IT staff hasn't set up policies to make it work
like this?

And have you asked *them* to help?

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:16:28 -0400, StargateFan wrote:
>
>> Although I can't access the registry to make any changes as it's a
>> work computer, does anyone know how to change this behaviour? Win98SE
>> was the best for allowing users complete control whereas XP starting
>> deciding what we could and couldn't work with easily. But at home
>> with XP, no problem. I wrested control back from XP by installing
>> great freeware Unlocker a long time back and anything WinXP or other
>> programs has its grip on, I release with Unlocker then I can rename,
>> move, delete, etc.
>>
>> But other than doing a very tedious workaround at work via deleting
>> via CMD DOSbox, haven't figured out how to tell Win7 that I'm in
>> command and not it. Something like 19 out of 20 files/folders it
>> won't release. I finally figured out that I can actually move these
>> files so I move them to my flash drive and delete there via "DOS" (UNC
>> paths are giving me problems with my scripting language as I haven't
>> figured out how to work with them yet, whereas my flash drive has a
>> drive letter that I can deal with).
>>
>> Any tips that don't involve registry and/or adminstrator rights, which
>> I don't have? One should be able to rename, delete files at will when
>> necessary and Win7 is making this unnecessarily difficult.
>>
>> Also, any way to empty the recyle bin? Clean up manager doesn't do a
>> thing. I have to move things out of recycle bin and delete with them
>> in the same "DOS" way.
>>
>> Thx.
>
> Are you sure that your IT staff hasn't set up policies to make it work
> like this?
>
> And have you asked *them* to help?

Any IT people I've worked with, are only too pleased to explain the
traps they've set up on the computer :-) I'd start with your IT department
first, just because of the time it will save. If they've "cut off all
avenues of escape", there's no point "running around" :-)

"There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt
to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we
wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish
to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control
the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the
image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur
or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly
and we will control all that you see and hear..."

(from the intro of the Outer Limits)

:-)
Paul

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:15:58 -0400, Paul wrote:

> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:16:28 -0400, StargateFan wrote:
>>
>>> Although I can't access the registry to make any changes as it's a
>>> work computer, does anyone know how to change this behaviour? Win98SE
>>> was the best for allowing users complete control whereas XP starting
>>> deciding what we could and couldn't work with easily. But at home
>>> with XP, no problem. I wrested control back from XP by installing
>>> great freeware Unlocker a long time back and anything WinXP or other
>>> programs has its grip on, I release with Unlocker then I can rename,
>>> move, delete, etc.
>>>
>>> But other than doing a very tedious workaround at work via deleting
>>> via CMD DOSbox, haven't figured out how to tell Win7 that I'm in
>>> command and not it. Something like 19 out of 20 files/folders it
>>> won't release. I finally figured out that I can actually move these
>>> files so I move them to my flash drive and delete there via "DOS" (UNC
>>> paths are giving me problems with my scripting language as I haven't
>>> figured out how to work with them yet, whereas my flash drive has a
>>> drive letter that I can deal with).
>>>
>>> Any tips that don't involve registry and/or adminstrator rights, which
>>> I don't have? One should be able to rename, delete files at will when
>>> necessary and Win7 is making this unnecessarily difficult.
>>>
>>> Also, any way to empty the recyle bin? Clean up manager doesn't do a
>>> thing. I have to move things out of recycle bin and delete with them
>>> in the same "DOS" way.
>>>
>>> Thx.
>>
>> Are you sure that your IT staff hasn't set up policies to make it work
>> like this?
>>
>> And have you asked *them* to help?
>
> Any IT people I've worked with, are only too pleased to explain the
> traps they've set up on the computer :-) I'd start with your IT department
> first, just because of the time it will save. If they've "cut off all
> avenues of escape", there's no point "running around" :-)
>
> "There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt
> to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we
> wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish
> to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control
> the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the
> image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur
> or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly
> and we will control all that you see and hear..."
>
> (from the intro of the Outer Limits)
>
> :-)
> Paul

Were you letting yourself have fun *again*?

I'm not so sure about the utility of that in TV, but in company computer
networks it's pretty vital to have certain restrictions (there I am,
preaching to the choir again!).

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:15:58 -0400, Paul wrote:
>
>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:16:28 -0400, StargateFan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Although I can't access the registry to make any changes as it's a
>>>> work computer, does anyone know how to change this behaviour? Win98SE
>>>> was the best for allowing users complete control whereas XP starting
>>>> deciding what we could and couldn't work with easily. But at home
>>>> with XP, no problem. I wrested control back from XP by installing
>>>> great freeware Unlocker a long time back and anything WinXP or other
>>>> programs has its grip on, I release with Unlocker then I can rename,
>>>> move, delete, etc.
>>>>
>>>> But other than doing a very tedious workaround at work via deleting
>>>> via CMD DOSbox, haven't figured out how to tell Win7 that I'm in
>>>> command and not it. Something like 19 out of 20 files/folders it
>>>> won't release. I finally figured out that I can actually move these
>>>> files so I move them to my flash drive and delete there via "DOS" (UNC
>>>> paths are giving me problems with my scripting language as I haven't
>>>> figured out how to work with them yet, whereas my flash drive has a
>>>> drive letter that I can deal with).
>>>>
>>>> Any tips that don't involve registry and/or adminstrator rights, which
>>>> I don't have? One should be able to rename, delete files at will when
>>>> necessary and Win7 is making this unnecessarily difficult.
>>>>
>>>> Also, any way to empty the recyle bin? Clean up manager doesn't do a
>>>> thing. I have to move things out of recycle bin and delete with them
>>>> in the same "DOS" way.
>>>>
>>>> Thx.
>>> Are you sure that your IT staff hasn't set up policies to make it work
>>> like this?
>>>
>>> And have you asked *them* to help?
>> Any IT people I've worked with, are only too pleased to explain the
>> traps they've set up on the computer :-) I'd start with your IT department
>> first, just because of the time it will save. If they've "cut off all
>> avenues of escape", there's no point "running around" :-)
>>
>> "There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt
>> to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we
>> wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish
>> to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control
>> the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the
>> image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur
>> or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly
>> and we will control all that you see and hear..."
>>
>> (from the intro of the Outer Limits)
>>
>> :-)
>> Paul
>
> Were you letting yourself have fun *again*?
>
> I'm not so sure about the utility of that in TV, but in company computer
> networks it's pretty vital to have certain restrictions (there I am,
> preaching to the choir again!).
>

It all depends on whether there is good reason for the rules that are
in place, or it's just arbitrary.

Not being able to delete your own Trash bin, seems a bit extreme.
And I can't imagine what that would be preventing.

Paul

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:59:05 -0400, Paul wrote:

> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:15:58 -0400, Paul wrote:
>>
>>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:16:28 -0400, StargateFan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Although I can't access the registry to make any changes as it's a
>>>>> work computer, does anyone know how to change this behaviour? Win98SE
>>>>> was the best for allowing users complete control whereas XP starting
>>>>> deciding what we could and couldn't work with easily. But at home
>>>>> with XP, no problem. I wrested control back from XP by installing
>>>>> great freeware Unlocker a long time back and anything WinXP or other
>>>>> programs has its grip on, I release with Unlocker then I can rename,
>>>>> move, delete, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> But other than doing a very tedious workaround at work via deleting
>>>>> via CMD DOSbox, haven't figured out how to tell Win7 that I'm in
>>>>> command and not it. Something like 19 out of 20 files/folders it
>>>>> won't release. I finally figured out that I can actually move these
>>>>> files so I move them to my flash drive and delete there via "DOS" (UNC
>>>>> paths are giving me problems with my scripting language as I haven't
>>>>> figured out how to work with them yet, whereas my flash drive has a
>>>>> drive letter that I can deal with).
>>>>>
>>>>> Any tips that don't involve registry and/or adminstrator rights, which
>>>>> I don't have? One should be able to rename, delete files at will when
>>>>> necessary and Win7 is making this unnecessarily difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, any way to empty the recyle bin? Clean up manager doesn't do a
>>>>> thing. I have to move things out of recycle bin and delete with them
>>>>> in the same "DOS" way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thx.
>>>> Are you sure that your IT staff hasn't set up policies to make it work
>>>> like this?
>>>>
>>>> And have you asked *them* to help?
>>> Any IT people I've worked with, are only too pleased to explain the
>>> traps they've set up on the computer :-) I'd start with your IT department
>>> first, just because of the time it will save. If they've "cut off all
>>> avenues of escape", there's no point "running around" :-)
>>>
>>> "There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt
>>> to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we
>>> wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish
>>> to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control
>>> the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the
>>> image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur
>>> or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly
>>> and we will control all that you see and hear..."
>>>
>>> (from the intro of the Outer Limits)
>>>
>>> :-)
>>> Paul
>>
>> Were you letting yourself have fun *again*?
>>
>> I'm not so sure about the utility of that in TV, but in company computer
>> networks it's pretty vital to have certain restrictions (there I am,
>> preaching to the choir again!).
>>
>
> It all depends on whether there is good reason for the rules that are
> in place, or it's just arbitrary.
>
> Not being able to delete your own Trash bin, seems a bit extreme.
> And I can't imagine what that would be preventing.
>
> Paul

It might prevent immunity from surveillance by management :-)

The fact that one rule makes little sense doesn't prove that there's no
basis for the rest of the rules.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)