Win 7 - admin locked out

Once again Experts, I need help.

About 6 months ago I bought a computer with Win7 Home Edition.
I setup my name as administrator : Seum-Admin + password and made notes
in my secret little book.

This all started when I tried to move a large file from one partition to
another.

Now, it seems, I am no longer the admin. The machine indicates that my
password is wrong and proceeded to lead me around in circles.

Short of using a sledge, is there any way to recover from this mess.

TIA

On 7/9/2011 3:50 AM, Seum wrote:
> Once again Experts, I need help.
>
> About 6 months ago I bought a computer with Win7 Home Edition.
> I setup my name as administrator : Seum-Admin + password and made notes
> in my secret little book.
>
> This all started when I tried to move a large file from one partition to
> another.
>
> Now, it seems, I am no longer the admin. The machine indicates that my
> password is wrong and proceeded to lead me around in circles.
>
> Short of using a sledge, is there any way to recover from this mess.
>
> TIA

If your system is 32bit you should be able to gain access using the
Kon-Boot 1.0 program found on Hiren's Boot CD. If you can boot the CD
the program lets you log into the Windows 7 account you choose, and
works for other Windows 32bit versions, with out changing the old
password.

Once in you should be able to change the password to something you can
remember.

Here is a link to the Boot CD.
http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd

The disk can also be mounted on a USB drive if you follow their
directions found at:
http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd-on-usb-disk

On 7/9/2011 1:50 AM, Seum wrote:
> Once again Experts, I need help.
>
> About 6 months ago I bought a computer with Win7 Home Edition.
> I setup my name as administrator : Seum-Admin + password and made notes
> in my secret little book.
>
> This all started when I tried to move a large file from one partition to
> another.
>
> Now, it seems, I am no longer the admin. The machine indicates that my
> password is wrong and proceeded to lead me around in circles.
>
> Short of using a sledge, is there any way to recover from this mess.
>
> TIA

Try this:
Enable/disable hidden admin account.
From CMD, type
net user administrator /active:yes

Log on as the administrator, then change the password to your account.

The hidden administrator account does not have a password, so if you're
going to keep it active, you should password protect it.

To disable the hidden account:
Enable/disable hidden admin account.
From CMD, type
net user administrator /active:no



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Bob Hatch wrote:
> On 7/9/2011 1:50 AM, Seum wrote:
>> Once again Experts, I need help.
>>
>> About 6 months ago I bought a computer with Win7 Home Edition.
>> I setup my name as administrator : Seum-Admin + password and made notes
>> in my secret little book.
>>
>> This all started when I tried to move a large file from one partition to
>> another.
>>
>> Now, it seems, I am no longer the admin. The machine indicates that my
>> password is wrong and proceeded to lead me around in circles.
>>
>> Short of using a sledge, is there any way to recover from this mess.
>>
>> TIA
>
> Try this:
> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
> From CMD, type
> net user administrator /active:yes
>
> Log on as the administrator, then change the password to your account.
>
> The hidden administrator account does not have a password, so if you're
> going to keep it active, you should password protect it.
>
> To disable the hidden account:
> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
> From CMD, type
> net user administrator /active:no

Thank you both very much GBM and Bob.

Unfortunately I am up to my eyeballs these days and it will probably
take a few days to get back to your efforts.

Have a great weekend :-)

Bob Hatch wrote:
> On 7/9/2011 1:50 AM, Seum wrote:
>> Once again Experts, I need help.
>>
>> About 6 months ago I bought a computer with Win7 Home Edition.
>> I setup my name as administrator : Seum-Admin + password and made notes
>> in my secret little book.
>>
>> This all started when I tried to move a large file from one partition to
>> another.
>>
>> Now, it seems, I am no longer the admin. The machine indicates that my
>> password is wrong and proceeded to lead me around in circles.
>>
>> Short of using a sledge, is there any way to recover from this mess.
>>
>> TIA
>
> Try this:
> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
> From CMD, type
> net user administrator /active:yes
>
> Log on as the administrator, then change the password to your account.
>
> The hidden administrator account does not have a password, so if you're
> going to keep it active, you should password protect it.
>
> To disable the hidden account:
> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
> From CMD, type
> net user administrator /active:no

Hello Bob.

Thanks for your response. Your suggestion seemed to be the simplest
route and I tried it. Here is my attempt:

After the Enable/disable hidden admin account.

C:\Users\jvalh>cmd
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\jvalh>net user administrator /active:yes
System error 5 has occurred.

Access is denied.

GlowingBlueMist wrote:
> On 7/9/2011 3:50 AM, Seum wrote:
>> Once again Experts, I need help.
>>
>> About 6 months ago I bought a computer with Win7 Home Edition.
>> I setup my name as administrator : Seum-Admin + password and made notes
>> in my secret little book.
>>
>> This all started when I tried to move a large file from one partition to
>> another.
>>
>> Now, it seems, I am no longer the admin. The machine indicates that my
>> password is wrong and proceeded to lead me around in circles.
>>
>> Short of using a sledge, is there any way to recover from this mess.
>>
>> TIA
>
> If your system is 32bit you should be able to gain access using the
> Kon-Boot 1.0 program found on Hiren's Boot CD. If you can boot the CD
> the program lets you log into the Windows 7 account you choose, and
> works for other Windows 32bit versions, with out changing the old password.
>
> Once in you should be able to change the password to something you can
> remember.
>
> Here is a link to the Boot CD.
> http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
>
> The disk can also be mounted on a USB drive if you follow their
> directions found at:
> http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd-on-usb-disk

Hello again GBM :-) and thank you for your attention.

My system does have 32bits.

That page : http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
has an enormous collection of programs. I had to download the complete
list ubcd503.iso (about 300MB) and now I have to write them to a DVD.

There must be a easier way.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:19:46 +0100, Seum <> wrote:

>Bob Hatch wrote:
>> On 7/9/2011 1:50 AM, Seum wrote:
>>> Once again Experts, I need help.
>>>
>>> About 6 months ago I bought a computer with Win7 Home Edition.
>>> I setup my name as administrator : Seum-Admin + password and made notes
>>> in my secret little book.
>>>
>>> This all started when I tried to move a large file from one partition to
>>> another.
>>>
>>> Now, it seems, I am no longer the admin. The machine indicates that my
>>> password is wrong and proceeded to lead me around in circles.
>>>
>>> Short of using a sledge, is there any way to recover from this mess.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> Try this:
>> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>> From CMD, type
>> net user administrator /active:yes
>>
>> Log on as the administrator, then change the password to your account.
>>
>> The hidden administrator account does not have a password, so if you're
>> going to keep it active, you should password protect it.
>>
>> To disable the hidden account:
>> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>> From CMD, type
>> net user administrator /active:no
>
>Hello Bob.
>
>Thanks for your response. Your suggestion seemed to be the simplest
>route and I tried it. Here is my attempt:
>
>After the Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>
>C:\Users\jvalh>cmd
>Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
>Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
>C:\Users\jvalh>net user administrator /active:yes
>System error 5 has occurred.
>
>Access is denied.

Did you remember to right-click on CMD and select Run As
Administrator?

--

Char Jackson

Char Jackson wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:19:46 +0100, Seum <> wrote:
>
>> Bob Hatch wrote:
>>> On 7/9/2011 1:50 AM, Seum wrote:
>>>> Once again Experts, I need help.
>>>>
>>>> About 6 months ago I bought a computer with Win7 Home Edition.
>>>> I setup my name as administrator : Seum-Admin + password and made notes
>>>> in my secret little book.
>>>>
>>>> This all started when I tried to move a large file from one partition to
>>>> another.
>>>>
>>>> Now, it seems, I am no longer the admin. The machine indicates that my
>>>> password is wrong and proceeded to lead me around in circles.
>>>>
>>>> Short of using a sledge, is there any way to recover from this mess.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>> Try this:
>>> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>>> From CMD, type
>>> net user administrator /active:yes
>>>
>>> Log on as the administrator, then change the password to your account.
>>>
>>> The hidden administrator account does not have a password, so if you're
>>> going to keep it active, you should password protect it.
>>>
>>> To disable the hidden account:
>>> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>>> From CMD, type
>>> net user administrator /active:no
>> Hello Bob.
>>
>> Thanks for your response. Your suggestion seemed to be the simplest
>> route and I tried it. Here is my attempt:
>>
>> After the Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>>
>> C:\Users\jvalh>cmd
>> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
>> Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>
>> C:\Users\jvalh>net user administrator /active:yes
>> System error 5 has occurred.
>>
>> Access is denied.
>
> Did you remember to right-click on CMD and select Run As
> Administrator?

Thanks Char.

That was something I had not known about. Please advise where all the
rules are for this task. Thanks!

Seum wrote:
> Char Jackson wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:19:46 +0100, Seum <> wrote:
>>
>>> Bob Hatch wrote:
>>>> On 7/9/2011 1:50 AM, Seum wrote:
>>>>> Once again Experts, I need help.
>>>>>
>>>>> About 6 months ago I bought a computer with Win7 Home Edition.
>>>>> I setup my name as administrator : Seum-Admin + password and made
>>>>> notes
>>>>> in my secret little book.
>>>>>
>>>>> This all started when I tried to move a large file from one
>>>>> partition to
>>>>> another.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, it seems, I am no longer the admin. The machine indicates that my
>>>>> password is wrong and proceeded to lead me around in circles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Short of using a sledge, is there any way to recover from this mess.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>> Try this:
>>>> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>>>> From CMD, type
>>>> net user administrator /active:yes
>>>>
>>>> Log on as the administrator, then change the password to your account.
>>>>
>>>> The hidden administrator account does not have a password, so if
>>>> you're going to keep it active, you should password protect it.
>>>>
>>>> To disable the hidden account:
>>>> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>>>> From CMD, type
>>>> net user administrator /active:no
>>> Hello Bob.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response. Your suggestion seemed to be the simplest
>>> route and I tried it. Here is my attempt:
>>>
>>> After the Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>>>
>>> C:\Users\jvalh>cmd
>>> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
>>> Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>>
>>> C:\Users\jvalh>net user administrator /active:yes
>>> System error 5 has occurred.
>>>
>>> Access is denied.
>>
>> Did you remember to right-click on CMD and select Run As
>> Administrator?

I did repeat the above and after
Net user administrator /active:no

I received:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\jvalh>net user administrator /active:yes

System error 5 has occurred.
Access is denied.

When I rt-clicked on the Command window, it opened up a small window
with the following list: Rt click, Mark, Paste, Select All, Scroll and find.

Run as admin never appeared after a rt-click.

There seems to be a lot missing here.

"Seum" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Seum wrote:
>> Char Jackson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:19:46 +0100, Seum <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bob Hatch wrote:
>>>>> On 7/9/2011 1:50 AM, Seum wrote:
>>>>>> Once again Experts, I need help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About 6 months ago I bought a computer with Win7 Home Edition.
>>>>>> I setup my name as administrator : Seum-Admin + password and
>>>>>> made notes
>>>>>> in my secret little book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This all started when I tried to move a large file from one
>>>>>> partition to
>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, it seems, I am no longer the admin. The machine indicates
>>>>>> that my
>>>>>> password is wrong and proceeded to lead me around in circles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Short of using a sledge, is there any way to recover from this
>>>>>> mess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Try this:
>>>>> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>>>>> From CMD, type
>>>>> net user administrator /active:yes
>>>>>
>>>>> Log on as the administrator, then change the password to your
>>>>> account.
>>>>>
>>>>> The hidden administrator account does not have a password, so if
>>>>> you're going to keep it active, you should password protect it.
>>>>>
>>>>> To disable the hidden account:
>>>>> Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>>>>> From CMD, type
>>>>> net user administrator /active:no
>>>> Hello Bob.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your response. Your suggestion seemed to be the
>>>> simplest
>>>> route and I tried it. Here is my attempt:
>>>>
>>>> After the Enable/disable hidden admin account.
>>>>
>>>> C:\Users\jvalh>cmd
>>>> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
>>>> Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>>>
>>>> C:\Users\jvalh>net user administrator /active:yes
>>>> System error 5 has occurred.
>>>>
>>>> Access is denied.
>>>
>>> Did you remember to right-click on CMD and select Run As
>>> Administrator?
>
> I did repeat the above and after
> Net user administrator /active:no
>
> I received:
> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
> Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
> C:\Users\jvalh>net user administrator /active:yes
>
> System error 5 has occurred.
> Access is denied.
>
> When I rt-clicked on the Command window, it opened up a small window
> with the following list: Rt click, Mark, Paste, Select All, Scroll
> and find.
>
> Run as admin never appeared after a rt-click.
>
> There seems to be a lot missing here.
>
The intent was to have you rt-click on the shortcut / link to CMD and
pick run as administrator. However, if I read your problem correctly,
you no longer have an administrator login that works. If that is the
case, then you won't be able to run as admin to be able to complete
the steps since that requires a working administrator account and
password...

It seems to me there are three possible scenarios:

If you CAN log in as an account with administrator rights, then that
administrator account can be used to fix the broken account.

If not, and there are no accounts with administrator rights then the
administrator account is enabled automatically and you can boot to
safe mode, log in as Administrator with no password, and make the
broken account an administrator again.

If not, and there is an account that has administrator rights but you
can't login because the password is wrong, then you'll need to use a
password removal tool - generally, you'll need to burn a CD, boot to
that CD and follow the instructions for that CD.

If you can identify which of those three scenarios covers your
situation (or if I've missed a fourth), I'm sure someone here can help
you along the rest of the way.

--
Zaphod

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