[SOLVED] W7 X64 won't instal on my 64Bit compatible computer

Hi. Back without any success. Here's the latest.
Before I start I'd like to mention here something I overlooked earier. Whenever I have tried to instal and get X64 working I am getting a Message in the POST screen to update DMI.Here is the full message:-
Verifying DMI data Pool
"UPDATE DMI.......................... AMD DATA CHANGE......................................... UPDATE NEW DATA TO DMI'
This happens only when try instal X64, not X86 just prior to pushing a key to boot from CD/DVD. Then during the instal when a restart happens this message will read as DMI Pool OK, then jump back to the "UPDATE AMD CHANGE" etc later on.
The final time that it does this is when a restart happens just when the installation gets to the " Completing Installation" The status bar is about 35-40% short of being fully green and when the computer opens into the " Starting windows" screen, thats as far as it goes. In W7 X86 it restarts and completes the installation til the status bar is fully green and it shows as 100% in numerals.
Also, on the Boot screen whenever X64 was installed to the 'E'drive ( Disk0 Partition3 in this case) there was a entry onscreen giving a CPUID******* and something else I can't remember as I never noted it down.The only way that I will see it again is to load X64 to Partition3 and restart the computer. Chosing to open the X86 version of W7 when the time comes.

Nibiru2012,I followed your instructions to the letter and I'm sorry to say that this computer has got a problem somewhere else.
Is it the BIOS, is the MBR being unwritten to HDD, are the Sata HDD and the IDE ATA PioneerDVD RW on the same controller ( why does it look for CD/DVD Device drivers to instal whenever I tried to use the OS Disc to attempt a Repair, should I be using AHCI or IDE BIOS ( can't remember where it is exactly,sorry).
The com is setup to use SATA HDD in IDE Mode, (have tried AHCI Mode bu that made no difference to instal success/failure), HPET is Enabled and set to 64 Bit. The OS disc is good, I've tried running it from an .ISO i created of it to bypass the use of a slow optical drive that doesn't autoplay any damn disc even if its setup to do so in W7 Autoplay settings.
There is something amiss with the hardware setup, as you said Nibiru2012, but what where?? --Once those two unknowns are uncovered the Why is knowledge usable.
You have been a great help and I repeat, everthing that you advised me to do should have had this 64 Bit show on the road. Alas, it hasn't.....but then, the show's only just begun and it ain't over 'til the Fat Lady sings.
In the interim since 10am today when I started the Wipeout drive and start from New which didn't come to the party end of day, I have Wiped clean again and reinstalled W7 X86. Am running on the bare minimum of OS, AV and Firewall and a browser. May start to reload back some Programs/Apps etc over the weekend. The Backup I made hasn't restored my Firefox Bookmarks ( Grrrrrrr) I have been googling and reading threads in this and other W7 forums on topics Update DMI, BIOS..and more. Heres a few threads/sites i vivited.

BOOT SECTOR WRONG DRIVE?

http://www.sevenforums.com/installat...ong-drive.html
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http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...rd.html?filter

http://www.sevenforums.com/installat...ata-stuck.html
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UPDATE DMI
http://www.google.co.nz/search?clien...=Google+Search
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25...-boot-problems

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/pa...347_30_50.html

That reminds me and I think it is important...............after the incomplete installation of X64, there is no sign of the 100MB System Reserved Partition at Disk0 Partition1. I had to connect to the computer a 4GB IDE ATA HDD with WXP Pro SP2 and that allowed me to use Disk Management to see what was on the Sata drive, there was no 100MB Partition in sight. I believe it is meant to stay there but I could be wrong.

A quick summary of what I did to try installing X64.

Remove all HDD's bar the SATA 160GB
Inserted OS DVD into optic drive , Booted into W7.
Chose Language etc, Chose X64 OS, chose Custom/Advanced
Deleted both C and E partitions made one 149GB unallocated space
Clicked 'New' and made a partition size 66629MB and another one of the remaing space.
Ended up with

Disk0 Partition1:...System Reserved......100MB (Total):.....86MB (Free space).....Type: System
Disk0 Partition2:...65 GB (Total)........65GB (Free space)....Primary
Disk0 Partition3:...84GB (Total)..........84GB (Free space)....Primary

Formatted both Disk0 partitions 2 & 3

Set to instal X64 to Disk0 Partition2.

Off it goes and its only fault that I can see is that which I have mentioned....instal does not continue to completion as soon as instal gets to that stage of Completing Installation.

Thats it, I'm of the same opinion as you Nibiru2012 in that the problem is Hardwre related. It could possibly be Sata/IDE connector cables faulty, BIOS, settins in BIOS. W while back I did a check in 'System Information > Summary and there was not a thing out of place, not a conflict anywhere. Beats me... I can't think of anything else now.
One more thing and a totally absurb note to finish on...last night after the failed attempt to instal X64 to the 1TB Sata HDD and reluctant to wipe my 160GB drive, i visited my neighbour and borrowed a IDE ATA HDD from him. I didn't check its GB capaity and set about the procedure to load to that....well this created all the 3 partitions but it was then I realised tha the HDD was 10GB ( (GB usable!!) AHH what the hell i decided, I was tired and couldn't be bothered throwing my X86 to the wind right then, so I set X64 to load to this drive. And lo and behold it did. It followed the same pattern as the one I give above to both the 1TB and 160GB drives, it didn't complete instal.
How the heck could it?? 14GB close enough on a 8GB drive..not tonight Josephine!!
Any way, it said Starting Windows and didn't but the point is that it had gone through all the steps and not once did I get a notification that The blimmin HDD wasn't BIG enough. Viewed in the WXP Pro Disk Management there was not a 100MB Partition, and the drive had 7.3GB data on it with 1.7GB free space.
Unbelievable.
Thanks again to all that have added thoughts and input
gazza

ps: it could be the Pioneer Optical drive not transferring data to RAM/HDD whenever a Restart occurs...............it takes up to 8 minutes to spin up again....................just a thought. I have a LG DVD RW at a mates place, I'll get it and hook it up. See if it makes any difference.

Hi gazza

Have you read this thread?
Hung at "Verifying DMI Pool Data"

Or searched the forum for Threads containing Pool?

Cheers and thanks to all who replied. I'm sorry but the page with all 4 replies has vanished and I only have pages 1 & 2 now. As best I can remember heres some replies:
clifford_cooley: yes I have read that link but I must add that I do not get to an open W7 X64 desktop. Unfortunately.
Ian: There are more than just the one restarts during the installation process; the 1st is after Loading Temporary files, the 2nd or 3rd is after installing services( i think) the 3rd or 4th is when instal gets to 27% of Expanding Windows files, then restarts and continues ( 5-8minute wait after restart) another couple restarts before getting to the Completing Instal when the bus stops and don't start up again, Driver gone out to lunch.
As far as updates goes, I have set the instal to get updates but the only time it has downloaded any updates ( 1.8MB approx) is when I have tried to load the X64 from an open desktop of X86.........or the great 4GB XP Pro drive. Setup does instal the updates when it gets to the instal updates step, and thats about it, ( I presume updates are being loaded as it takes more time for that step than it does for the Instal Features.....5secs close enough for instal features)
There are at least 8 restarts, and I believe that in there some ***** is happening to the instal of X64 W7....and I dunno what it is.
I'm chewing the cud on the instal/update of the BIOS from the the Award/Phoenix F3 to the Award/Phoenix F9e Beta and my opting to set the "Load optimised defaults". Since then the RAM display in POST has gone from Dual Channel to Unganged. Also, since then, I cannot use a USB2 Flashdrive to load to HDD or change the BIOS back to F3/F4/F5/F7.
All that muddies the waters.
I'm about to sling me hooks on X64 and make do with X86. Adobe CS4 MC runs ok, if it decides to get pernikkity I'll give it the Order of the Boot and revert to CS3.
Hell, whats a loss of 500MB Dual Channel RAM when 3.5GB ( 2.1GB available) of 4GB is on the go with a Virtual Memory of 6GB on the back burner.
??
:smile:

To others that added their opinions and input and whom I can't at present thank, thanks. Much appreciated
gazza

I had issues once with an older DVD drive not working correctly and going into a continual re-boot on the install. Perhaps that is it.

You definitely are having tons of issues with this install that's for sure.

I wish you luck.

Cheers Nibiru2012, yes I certainly are having some serious hard lines with the instal of X64. As I said, I installed it on two of my HDD's in a mates computer at the weekend and it was a doddle. Also the fact that his W7 Pro X64 (Retail) wouldn't instal to my computer using the Pioneer DVD RW DVR 112D optical drive I have....well...its all been said really.
Thanks for your input and email.
It was a bit late last night to go and get the LG DVD drive but I'm heading that way at 3 this afternoon.
I will post the results of trying a different optical drive.............................optimistic though defeated thus far, I don't really hope for much or any improvement/change using a different DVD drive..................the pessimism is founded in the past having attempted installing from desktop folder and a .iso which in effect leaves an optical drive out of the equation.
Anyway, I can't be sure until I know.
Back later today
gazza
edit: the optical drive (the Pioneer 112D) is less than 3yrs old and has had minimal use. The woman whom gifted me the computer ( without the the X4 630 CPU, 4GB RAM and 1TB internal/external HDDs....and the OC'ing done to it ) only used the computer for banking and playing Spider solitaire. She had it built from new just under 3 yrs back. I have had it for 6-7weeks)....just a thought. Right , I'm off to get the LG.

edit #2: here's a link to an installation of W7 X64 RC. Although its RC it pretty well shows exactly what is happening to me. It is the Last screen shots after the one showing "Completing Installation" that I am not getting into after the restart. I found the link in the given links at the bottom of my thread. Its here:-
http://www.shivaranjan.com/2009/05/1...e-walkthrough/

edit3: Step 1 as shown in the 7th screenshot, the 'Copying Windows Installation files" lasts 2 seconds max. That's a wee bit fast isn't it?!
Installing X86 it goes from 0% to 100%.

THAT'S what it IS! She put some kind of juju on this computer and you're doomed to spend the rest of your mortal life trying to get it to work! LOL

This computer is the "silicon" version of Groundhog Day!!

Nibiru2012 and all that pass this way, here's the full SP on the computer (SP= story, starting price....London UK colloquialism)
The woman lives in Auckland NZ and is dying: terminal cancer. She constantly kept messing up her computers and I would get them to reboot and again play sound, when I lived local to her or from here, Invercargill NZ, using TeamViewer. She usually used WXP HOEM.
Bring into the picture her 40yr old son, still resident at home. When her computer messed up with sound loss early jan and it was running W7 X86, I couldn't get the sound to work(using TeamViewer). It had lost its driver (somehow) and rollback didn't work, update didn't work, nor did the AC97 I d-loaded and installed. (course AC97 not going to work.........W7 uses Realtek ALC889 as I found out later. W7 I had on my Compaq Presario S3010AN and it only had a Base score of 1.something.
I digress
So I'll digress further.........................her son who she had bought a new quad core computer and a laptop had his older Acer dual core of some model I can't remember. Well he decided to use his blimmin ACER recovery disks to repair her computer. Didn't fix the sound and also didn't fix the lost internet connections (USB or Ethernet) She had about 15 things connected to USB hubs.
Anyway, she bought a new computer. Her son told me hers was stuffed. I offered to buy it( had AMD Athlon 3600+ 2GHz CPU and 1GB Apacer 667 DDR2 RAM).
Son then tried to take out the Athlon CPU and put it into his Acer. Completely screwd it up as they NOT same fittings. Hers was AM2 his was 754 I think from memory........it was AMD Sempron 3100.
He managed to get the CPU of hers back into the AM2 socket well enough and undamaged, BUT as for the Sempron 3100, he broke off one of the pins and those that he didn't he may as well had done................when I saw it, it looked as though someone totally drunk or asleep at the wheel of a bulldozer, or dead at it, had driven through a field of hay or corn.
He, the son, also tried fitting the graphics card into his computer......what ever else he did I dunno but he tried out his best to upgrade his ACER computer. Failed.
While he was doing all these things and it was after his mother had said that she would give it to me, it became known that she had terminal cancer. Life expectancy.....6-12 months.
He eventually couriered me the computer tower, WXP H OEM CD and the W7 Ultimate DVD, not the monitor, she had a massive HDMI TV/LCD that she used. The son has it now.............one for each of his two desktops. His laptop is in a bad shape since it hit the bedroom wall because it wouldn't play a DX10 game.
When I got the computer it was basically an Acer running WXPHome.
I paid for the courier and the deal was that I get him a new Sempron 3100 CPU.
Done.
I sent his mum a well wishing card and thank you.
That's it
Bring on the dancing beers
Now for the LG input attempt
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on a note here, I tried installing X64 to Disk0 Partition3 with an AHCI setting in BIOS. Got as far as the creating of the 100MB System and XXXGB Primary partitions and got message that the System Partition could not be created and Instal could not be made to the Primary partition................something about drive controllers not enabled for that drive.
Switched back to IDE and haven't attempted to instal X64.

Back later
gazza

edit: That CPUID that showed on screen @ POST when X64 installed (ha ha) to disk0 partition2 ( E drive) showed up again when I tried to instal X64 to Disk0 Partition 3 is as follows;
CPUID:00100F52..........PatchID: 0086
I don't know if its relevant to the issue at hand, but...............I'll do a Google on it soon.
ciao for now

No changes to report. Same old story. I'm beginning to seriously think BIOS. HDD's being faulty isn't in the firing line. The 1TB drive is 6 weeks old ( I know that a faulty one can slip through quality control),
Why do I think the BIOS i put in to run the AMD AM3 Athlon II X4 630 in an AM2 m-board is faulty? Answer is its the only thing that I haven't tried to change. Whether it be back to the F3 version that I replaced with the F9e beta in order to get the cpu to run, as I was told, or to some other version, F4, F5, F7. I have them all, its not going to screw up my com if I try F4/5/7. I can always reload F3 or F9e
Before I changed to the F9e BIOS, the Quad core 630 was running on the F3 Bios.
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I got in touch with the fella in Auckland to ask if this coms DVD player autoplayed when he had it. He said it did, until he did the miracle cure using his Acer recovery discs.
I'm going back to F3 BIOS. I'll also drop the AMD 64 Athlon X2 3600 CPU bak into the com and try installing X64 with that.
Back to the beginning as it was when I got the box, but I will use the 1TB HDD and see if X64 opens into a usable desktop.
Sigh.
ciao for now
gazza

edit 1: what about if I try a 64 Bit Vista Home Basic instal and if it instals I can just do an upgrade to W7 X64 Ultimate. I know someone with Vista Home Basic. According to this it can be done.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ws-7/?os=other
But then, a bit more reading to other links on the pages throw up typical MS gobble-de gook and contradictions.
I have just used the W7 Upgrade advisor and as it stands, this computer is good to go 64 Bit.
If the BIOS changes( which I really think are a waste of time and effort but I'll do them anyway) and the Vista trick don't work I'll be staying 32 Bit

I really feel for you because you've tried just about everything. It's frustrating I know, I've been there!

Here's a shot of my layout looks, if that might help.

Nibiru2012. Thank you.
I have had success and it didn't come cheap. I managed to screw the BIOS by using @BIOS to look for a update to the F9e. Well it found this " Nividia 2075/nForce 630a" and I ok'd the update and instal of it. Don't know why I did, because it isn't a BIOS as such like Z-Cars 64 or whayever: its the chipset drivers.
HAd to reboot computer and on restart there's a black screen..I think the computer is sorting out the data change.Went made a cuppa tea, and a person here went in to use the computer and hit the POWER button to turn it on. ...turned it blimmin off..........then on again..............................seen nothing but a black screen for two days.
Went a bought a new Gigabyte MA-GA74GM-S2 rev 4.0, not exactly the model I wanted but it was all that was available immediately.....NZ$140.0 Set it up in tower and all the other bits to get it running, Thought I'd try to do the instal of X64 again seeing as I had an AM3 Mobo and a new BIOS, it is BIOS FA.
Same slow boat to china with the optical drive but it had a new connecter cable/ribbon and also the SATA HDD I attached the new sata connecter cable, so that was that. I decided to try the Dual boot again as it was what was bugging me most, and my heart missed a beat when it didn't restart when reaching the 'Completing Installation' part, and I watched and waited for it to restart but I could see the green staus bar moving slowly as I had put the mouse pointer on its position.
Eventally it did restart, and my heart missed another beat but when it came on screen it was finishing up and testing Video and a couple other things and then it was all go.
I rebooted and have two W7 options to choose from, shame one doesn't say X86 and the other X64..................but I know which is which.
I haven't installed to the 1TB SATA HDD, I installed to the 160GB (149GB) SATA HDD and depending on which version I want to run it seems to make that the Active Boot Dive.
I wanted both systems because I wanted to see what programs I have on X86 are not comptible with X64. There eems to be two camps on that subject, some say that most if not 99% all 32 bit are compatible with 64 Bit. Others say the opposite.
I'll find out, hopefully not the hard way.
Here is a PNG of my system, if it goes to post here, I don't know how to shrink the image as you had done but I'll try to attach it here.
system HDD setup:-
http://s563.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=Capture3.png
I only had the 1 HDD but I also just connected the 1TB External HDD as it has AV and Firewall programs etc on it that I use.
This endevour of getting 64 Bit on my computer has been a learning epic!!!
much thanks
gazza
Damn, I don't seem to be able to attach a PNG of Disk Management of my computer. I'll work on it and figure it out and post one.
edit 1: Nibiru 2012, I like your seperate Page File Partition. I had read about making it separarte and that best place for it was at the very beginning of the System disk where Data tranfer is at its fastest. Haven't tried it yet. I did have a 'Page File Defrag' program when I was running XP Pro SP3. It defragged the PF at the very beginning just after the boot / opening screen.Normally Defrag apps don't/can't/won't defrag a PF or a Hiber file...or Sys Restore.
But anyway, Its all good.

edit 2: I'm still at a loss to actually pinpoint why X64 wouldn't instal properly before. At the end of the day, it could have been the the GA-M68SM-S2L mobo, the F9e BIOS, an AM3 CPU in an AM2 Mobo, a faulty IDE or SATA connector ribbon/cable, a mixture of more than one of these things or just plain Murphy's Law.
Perhaps it was a bonus that I had the new Mobos' Drivers CD (?).........though I didn't use it until X64 was installed.
I looked into the BIOS of the new mobo to check HPET and it was set to Enable and I couldn't see any alteration places to set either 32 or 64 Bit so I just left it all as it was. That was before I installed X64. I didn't attempt to set the mode to AHCI, I didn't even look into it. I know when I tried to set it to AHCI from IDE Mode W7 X86 wouldn't open and AHCI wouldn't get X64 working either. So I simply left everything as it was.
Thats it. I hope what I have been through will help someone else with a similar problem as I had.
Thanks to all contributors.
gazza