Upgrade Win7 H.P. to Pro

"Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
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>> "JKConey" <> wrote in message
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>> >> I'm running Win7 Home Premium and want to switch to Professional. Can
>> >> I
>> >> do this with an Win7 Pro Upgrade?
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>
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>> From what I understand it will network better than Home.
>
>
>
> No, not true. If you want to join a domain, yes, you need
> Professional. But for peer-to-peer networking, they are the same.
>
>

I think my terminology is lacking, sorry for that. What I have is a router
attached to my desktop and I wireless connect from my laptop and iPhone. The
router has a port I can plug a backup drive into, but I can't get it to
work. I admit I may not have spent as much time on debugging as I should,
and someone told me Professional would do this easily. Since I can get it
really reasonable, I thought I'd give it a shot.
Dave

"Dave" <> wrote in message
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> I can backup fine from a USB port to a backup drive. My router has a port
> that I can plug a backup drive into and do incremental, full or selective
> backups. I can't seem to get it enabled to work right. Someone told me
> Professional would do this without any problems.
> Do you know if this is true?

Maybe I missed it somewhere, but have you told anyone here what your router
is? Make and model? How else would we answer your question?

It seems unlikely that the move to "pro" would make a difference for an
appliance based backup device or host, but without knowing what the hardware
in question is I know I can't even begin to try and look it up.

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:37:29 -0500, "Dave" <>
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> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
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> > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:28:04 -0500, "Dave" <>
> > wrote:
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> >> "JKConey" <> wrote in message
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> >> >
> >> > "Dave" <> wrote in message
> >> > news:...
> >> >> I'm running Win7 Home Premium and want to switch to Professional. Can
> >> >> I
> >> >> do this with an Win7 Pro Upgrade?
> >
> >
> >>
> >> From what I understand it will network better than Home.
> >
> >
> >
> > No, not true. If you want to join a domain, yes, you need
> > Professional. But for peer-to-peer networking, they are the same.
> >
> >
>
> I think my terminology is lacking, sorry for that. What I have is a router
> attached to my desktop and I wireless connect from my laptop and iPhone. The
> router has a port I can plug a backup drive into, but I can't get it to
> work. I admit I may not have spent as much time on debugging as I should,
> and someone told me Professional would do this easily. Since I can get it
> really reasonable, I thought I'd give it a shot.


What kind of port is this? Is this just a plain USB drive?

Two points:

1. You can't just plug a plain USB drive into a router. You can plug
in a drive with an ethernet connection that works as a network device.


2. Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional should work exactly the
same with this. I'm afraid that whoever told you differently is just
incorrect.

"Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:37:29 -0500, "Dave" <>
> wrote:
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>> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:28:04 -0500, "Dave" <>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "JKConey" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:i445ac$drj$...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Dave" <> wrote in message
>> >> > news:...
>> >> >> I'm running Win7 Home Premium and want to switch to Professional.
>> >> >> Can
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> do this with an Win7 Pro Upgrade?
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> From what I understand it will network better than Home.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > No, not true. If you want to join a domain, yes, you need
>> > Professional. But for peer-to-peer networking, they are the same.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I think my terminology is lacking, sorry for that. What I have is a
>> router
>> attached to my desktop and I wireless connect from my laptop and iPhone.
>> The
>> router has a port I can plug a backup drive into, but I can't get it to
>> work. I admit I may not have spent as much time on debugging as I should,
>> and someone told me Professional would do this easily. Since I can get it
>> really reasonable, I thought I'd give it a shot.
>
>
> What kind of port is this? Is this just a plain USB drive?
>
> Two points:
>
> 1. You can't just plug a plain USB drive into a router. You can plug
> in a drive with an ethernet connection that works as a network device.

You can with certain routers that have provisions specifically for this
purpose. I've already responded to the OP asking for the make/model of said
device so we can check it's specs and manual.

>
> 2. Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional should work exactly the
> same with this. I'm afraid that whoever told you differently is just
> incorrect.

Yeah, I can't see why Pro would make a difference either, but maybe the
manual for the specific device could either shed some light or completely
dispel any thoughts to the contrary.

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:56:16 -0400, "Seth"
<> wrote:

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> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
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> > On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:37:29 -0500, "Dave" <>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
> >> news:...
> >> > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:28:04 -0500, "Dave" <>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "JKConey" <> wrote in message
> >> >> news:i445ac$drj$...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Dave" <> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:...
> >> >> >> I'm running Win7 Home Premium and want to switch to Professional.
> >> >> >> Can
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> do this with an Win7 Pro Upgrade?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> From what I understand it will network better than Home.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No, not true. If you want to join a domain, yes, you need
> >> > Professional. But for peer-to-peer networking, they are the same.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I think my terminology is lacking, sorry for that. What I have is a
> >> router
> >> attached to my desktop and I wireless connect from my laptop and iPhone.
> >> The
> >> router has a port I can plug a backup drive into, but I can't get it to
> >> work. I admit I may not have spent as much time on debugging as I should,
> >> and someone told me Professional would do this easily. Since I can get it
> >> really reasonable, I thought I'd give it a shot.
> >
> >
> > What kind of port is this? Is this just a plain USB drive?
> >
> > Two points:
> >
> > 1. You can't just plug a plain USB drive into a router. You can plug
> > in a drive with an ethernet connection that works as a network device.
>
> You can with certain routers that have provisions specifically for this
> purpose. I've already responded to the OP asking for the make/model of said
> device so we can check it's specs and manual.


Thanks. I don't know of any like that, but if you do, I'd appreciate
your listing some of the make and model names.



>
> >
> > 2. Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional should work exactly the
> > same with this. I'm afraid that whoever told you differently is just
> > incorrect.
>
> Yeah, I can't see why Pro would make a difference either, but maybe the
> manual for the specific device could either shed some light or completely
> dispel any thoughts to the contrary.
>
>
>

Ken Blake <> wrote on Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:39:47
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>Thanks. I don't know of any like that, but if you do, I'd appreciate
>your listing some of the make and model names.

The Linksys WRT160NL by Cisco allows you to attach a USB drive that can be
used for storage or a Media Server. You have to do more than just plug in
the drive. You have to use the router's web server to configure the storage
and Media Server.
--
Carroll B. Robbins, Jr.

"Dave" <> wrote in message
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>> "Dave" <> wrote in message
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>>> "JKConey" <> wrote in message
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>>>> "Dave" <> wrote in message
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>>>>> I'm running Win7 Home Premium and want to switch to Professional.
>>>>> Can I do this with an Win7 Pro Upgrade?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What's in Pro that you need?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> JK Sinrod
>>>> www.myconeyislandmemories.com
>>>
>>> From what I understand it will network better than Home. My printer
>>> works ok now, but I'm having trouble setting up a backup drive on my
>>> router so I can backup both desktop and laptop to it.
>>> Dave
>>
>> All you get "extra" in pro is ;
>> 1. Run WinXP applications in "WinXP Mode",
>> 2. Connect to *Company* networks more securely, and
>> 3. Auto backup to Home or Business Network.
>>
>> One thing I don't understand is your "backup desktop and Laptop to a
>> "Router" ?
>>
>> FWIW I have backed up two laptops (Win7 Home) and three Desktops
>> (WinXP and Win98SE) to a western digital external hard drive (And
>> scheduled monthly "update backups")
>> a. Used the Win7 "backup application" and burned a recovery disc, and
>> b. Used Acronis True image for the Desktop PCs
>>
>> The only lack of control was that the Win7 application did not give me
>> the option to backup to a "folder" of my choice, however, it does
>> create an image in the external hard drive, with the "Laptop Name" as
>> the identifying title.
>>
>> NB My "Workgroup" LAN (Ethernet for Desk tops and WiFi for the Win7
>> Laptops) through my DLink DIR-615, router works fine :-)
>>
>
> I can backup fine from a USB port to a backup drive. My router has a
> port that I can plug a backup drive into and do incremental, full or
> selective backups. I can't seem to get it enabled to work right. Someone
> told me Professional would do this without any problems.
> Do you know if this is true?
> Dave

AFAIK the "backup program" in Win7 is the same for Home and Pro.
Why introduce a third bit of hardware into a backup regime?
Just plug the USB external drive into the PC you want to backup and let it
rip.
(Don't forget to Burn a recovery Disc while you are at it)

I Don't know how good the Microsoft Backup software is, because I use True
Image for my Desktops.
(I may even install True Image on the laptops as well :-)

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:39:47 -0700, Ken Blake
<> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:56:16 -0400, "Seth"
><> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>
>> > Two points:
>> >
>> > 1. You can't just plug a plain USB drive into a router. You can plug
>> > in a drive with an ethernet connection that works as a network device.
>>
>> You can with certain routers that have provisions specifically for this
>> purpose. I've already responded to the OP asking for the make/model of said
>> device so we can check it's specs and manual.
>
>
>Thanks. I don't know of any like that, but if you do, I'd appreciate
>your listing some of the make and model names.

I recently took a look at the current crop of NAT routers and many of
them now have a USB port that they label as suitable for backups and
filesharing, basically a single drive NAS system, except that it
connects (directly to the router) via USB rather than Ethernet.

Here are a few examples off the top of my head:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124388
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833127215

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:25:37 -0500, Char Jackson <>
wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:39:47 -0700, Ken Blake
> <> wrote:


> >Thanks. I don't know of any like that, but if you do, I'd appreciate
> >your listing some of the make and model names.
>
> I recently took a look at the current crop of NAT routers and many of
> them now have a USB port that they label as suitable for backups and
> filesharing, basically a single drive NAS system, except that it
> connects (directly to the router) via USB rather than Ethernet.
>
> Here are a few examples off the top of my head:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124388


Thanks.


> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833127215



LOL! That's the router I use. I don't have the time to look into this
now, but if it does this, I never realized it before (probably because
I had no interest in doing this).

Thanks again.

"Seth" <> wrote in message
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> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:37:29 -0500, "Dave" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>> > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:28:04 -0500, "Dave" <>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> "JKConey" <> wrote in message
>>> >> news:i445ac$drj$...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Dave" <> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:...
>>> >> >> I'm running Win7 Home Premium and want to switch to Professional.
>>> >> >> Can
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> do this with an Win7 Pro Upgrade?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> From what I understand it will network better than Home.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > No, not true. If you want to join a domain, yes, you need
>>> > Professional. But for peer-to-peer networking, they are the same.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> I think my terminology is lacking, sorry for that. What I have is a
>>> router
>>> attached to my desktop and I wireless connect from my laptop and iPhone.
>>> The
>>> router has a port I can plug a backup drive into, but I can't get it to
>>> work. I admit I may not have spent as much time on debugging as I
>>> should,
>>> and someone told me Professional would do this easily. Since I can get
>>> it
>>> really reasonable, I thought I'd give it a shot.
>>
>>
>> What kind of port is this? Is this just a plain USB drive?
>>
>> Two points:
>>
>> 1. You can't just plug a plain USB drive into a router. You can plug
>> in a drive with an ethernet connection that works as a network device.
>
> You can with certain routers that have provisions specifically for this
> purpose. I've already responded to the OP asking for the make/model of
> said device so we can check it's specs and manual.
>
>>
>> 2. Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional should work exactly the
>> same with this. I'm afraid that whoever told you differently is just
>> incorrect.
>
> Yeah, I can't see why Pro would make a difference either, but maybe the
> manual for the specific device could either shed some light or completely
> dispel any thoughts to the contrary.
>
>
>
>

The router is a Belkin F58235-4 V2 and the port is USB. It is dedicated to a
storage device like a backup drive. As I said before, I have not put a lot
of time into trying to sort it out, mostly due to the fact I thought it
would be plug-and-play if I installed Professional.
Dave