Unable to Create System Image on DVD's

I have Win 7 64 bit installed on my laptop as well as my desktop. System
images for both are on external HD's.

On the laptop, I have created a system image on blank DVD's using DVD-R's.
No problems -- I can restore from the DVD's.

However, when I try to create a system image on blank DVD-R's on my desktop,
I get a message saying something like, "format was unsuccessful." If I use a
DVD+RW the process runs to completion and I can restore from it. I had to
use RW's because I don't have any +R's.

I get the same unsuccessful message if I try to format a blank DVD-R with
Win 7.

My DVD burner on the desktop says it is a +R. Does that mean I can't
use -R's.

I've no idea whether this is a Win 7 problem, burner problem or a problem on
my part.

Would someone please try to straighten out the dense old mind?

Thank you very much.

I have had a similar problem last night.
I put in a DVD-R in my DVD writer to do a system backup of my win7 64bit
system, and I got the message after a long time ,after formatting?,
saying the backup was unsuccessful.
Do I need to buy DVD+RW or DVD-RW for doing a backup.

Any ideas please.

Thanks

Jack Gillis wrote:
>
> I have Win 7 64 bit installed on my laptop as well as my desktop. System
> images for both are on external HD's.
>
> On the laptop, I have created a system image on blank DVD's using
> DVD-R's. No problems -- I can restore from the DVD's.
>
> However, when I try to create a system image on blank DVD-R's on my
> desktop, I get a message saying something like, "format was
> unsuccessful." If I use a DVD+RW the process runs to completion and I
> can restore from it. I had to use RW's because I don't have any +R's.
>
> I get the same unsuccessful message if I try to format a blank DVD-R
> with Win 7.
>
> My DVD burner on the desktop says it is a +R. Does that mean I can't use
> -R's.
>
> I've no idea whether this is a Win 7 problem, burner problem or a
> problem on my part.
>
> Would someone please try to straighten out the dense old mind?
>
> Thank you very much.

"Bob H" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I have had a similar problem last night.
> I put in a DVD-R in my DVD writer to do a system backup of my win7 64bit
> system, and I got the message after a long time ,after formatting?, saying
> the backup was unsuccessful.
> Do I need to buy DVD+RW or DVD-RW for doing a backup.

I really wish I knew the answer to that! Maybe somebody will chime in with
it.


>
> Any ideas please.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jack Gillis wrote:
>>
>> I have Win 7 64 bit installed on my laptop as well as my desktop. System
>> images for both are on external HD's.
>>
>> On the laptop, I have created a system image on blank DVD's using
>> DVD-R's. No problems -- I can restore from the DVD's.
>>
>> However, when I try to create a system image on blank DVD-R's on my
>> desktop, I get a message saying something like, "format was
>> unsuccessful." If I use a DVD+RW the process runs to completion and I can
>> restore from it. I had to use RW's because I don't have any +R's.
>>
>> I get the same unsuccessful message if I try to format a blank DVD-R with
>> Win 7.
>>
>> My DVD burner on the desktop says it is a +R. Does that mean I can't
>> use -R's.
>>
>> I've no idea whether this is a Win 7 problem, burner problem or a problem
>> on my part.
>>
>> Would someone please try to straighten out the dense old mind?
>>
>> Thank you very much.

Tell us the make and model of the DDV burner and the version of the software
you are using.
You will get a better answer.


"Jack Gillis" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> I have Win 7 64 bit installed on my laptop as well as my desktop. System
> images for both are on external HD's.
>
> On the laptop, I have created a system image on blank DVD's using DVD-R's.
> No problems -- I can restore from the DVD's.
>
> However, when I try to create a system image on blank DVD-R's on my
> desktop, I get a message saying something like, "format was unsuccessful."
> If I use a DVD+RW the process runs to completion and I can restore from
> it. I had to use RW's because I don't have any +R's.
>
> I get the same unsuccessful message if I try to format a blank DVD-R with
> Win 7.
>
> My DVD burner on the desktop says it is a +R. Does that mean I can't
> use -R's.
>
> I've no idea whether this is a Win 7 problem, burner problem or a problem
> on my part.
>
> Would someone please try to straighten out the dense old mind?
>
> Thank you very much.

"Jack Gillis" <> wrote in message news:...
>
> I have Win 7 64 bit installed on my laptop as well as my desktop. System
> images for both are on external HD's.
>
> On the laptop, I have created a system image on blank DVD's using DVD-R's.
> No problems -- I can restore from the DVD's.
>
> However, when I try to create a system image on blank DVD-R's on my desktop,
> I get a message saying something like, "format was unsuccessful." If I use a
> DVD+RW the process runs to completion and I can restore from it. I had to
> use RW's because I don't have any +R's.
>
> I get the same unsuccessful message if I try to format a blank DVD-R with
> Win 7.
>
> My DVD burner on the desktop says it is a +R. Does that mean I can't
> use -R's.
>
> I've no idea whether this is a Win 7 problem, burner problem or a problem on
> my part.
>
> Would someone please try to straighten out the dense old mind?
>
> Thank you very much.
>

You don't format blank DVD R's. They are a write-once medium.
DVD-RW need to be formatted as they can be written to multiple times.

Have a look in Help and Support and enter 'dvd burning' into the
search to get some info about different DVD formats.

"John Keiser" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Tell us the make and model of the DDV burner and the version of the
> software you are using.
> You will get a better answer.

Thank you

Belarc Advisor reports the burner to be an
ATAPI DVD A DH20A4P ATA Device
as does Win7 Device Manager

As I said, I was trying to create a system image of my Window 7
installation. So I suppose I can safely say the software is within Windows
7.

Thanks again.


>
>
> "Jack Gillis" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> I have Win 7 64 bit installed on my laptop as well as my desktop. System
>> images for both are on external HD's.
>>
>> On the laptop, I have created a system image on blank DVD's using
>> DVD-R's. No problems -- I can restore from the DVD's.
>>
>> However, when I try to create a system image on blank DVD-R's on my
>> desktop, I get a message saying something like, "format was
>> unsuccessful." If I use a DVD+RW the process runs to completion and I can
>> restore from it. I had to use RW's because I don't have any +R's.
>>
>> I get the same unsuccessful message if I try to format a blank DVD-R with
>> Win 7.
>>
>> My DVD burner on the desktop says it is a +R. Does that mean I can't
>> use -R's.
>>
>> I've no idea whether this is a Win 7 problem, burner problem or a problem
>> on my part.
>>
>> Would someone please try to straighten out the dense old mind?
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>
>

"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Jack Gillis" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> I have Win 7 64 bit installed on my laptop as well as my desktop. System
>> images for both are on external HD's.
>>
>> On the laptop, I have created a system image on blank DVD's using
>> DVD-R's. No problems -- I can restore from the DVD's.
>>
>> However, when I try to create a system image on blank DVD-R's on my
>> desktop, I get a message saying something like, "format was
>> unsuccessful." If I use a DVD+RW the process runs to completion and I can
>> restore from it. I had to use RW's because I don't have any +R's.
>>
>> I get the same unsuccessful message if I try to format a blank DVD-R with
>> Win 7.
>>
>> My DVD burner on the desktop says it is a +R. Does that mean I can't
>> use -R's.
>>
>> I've no idea whether this is a Win 7 problem, burner problem or a problem
>> on my part.
>>
>> Would someone please try to straighten out the dense old mind?
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>
> You don't format blank DVD R's. They are a write-once medium.
> DVD-RW need to be formatted as they can be written to multiple times.
>
> Have a look in Help and Support and enter 'dvd burning' into the
> search to get some info about different DVD formats.
>
>Thank you very much.

That is what I thought also.

It surprised me when during the process I got a message saying, " Are you
sure you want to format this media? The media needs to be formatted before
it can be used." Then it gives me the choice of 'Format' or 'Cancel' and
nothing else. If I choose Format, I get the problem I described above. If
I choose Cancel I go back to the previous screen and then to the above
question again. This loop continues until I cancel the whole thing.

If our common belief about not needing to format a blank DVD is correct, why
in the world would Windows 7 'Create a System Image' say otherwise? Go
figure? Bug maybe?

Thanks again.

I asked because old DVD units were often limited to certain media.

Your DVD unit should not be the problem if it is a LiteOn DH-20A4P which has
the capability of using either meda:

"The LiteOn DH-20A4P is a half-heigt internal dvd reader and burner
combination drive. With its support of Double Layer DVD recording, you can
burn up to 8.5 GB of data on a single DVD-DL disc. This drive has special
technology to reduce noice during reading and burning, and multiple other
technologies ensure burning quality.

Features
.. ATAPI/E-IDE Half-Height internal DVD+R / DVD+RW / DVD-R / DVD-RW / DVD+R9/
DVD-R9 / DVD-RAM / DVD-ROM / CD-R/ CD-RW / CD-ROM combination drive.
.. Support Double Layer DVD+/- R9 Recording Function.
.. SMART-WRITE: Through drive's self-learning function, automatically detect
and decide the optimal write strategy of DVD recordable media ( DVD+R &
DVD-R ) for the best write quality.
.. Support Fixed Packet, Variable Packet, TAO, SAO, DAO, Random Access time,
Incremental, sequential recording, restricted overwrite, Layer Jump
recording, Raw Mode Burning & Over-Burn."

Perhaps someone better versed can use that info to solve the issue.




"Jack Gillis" <> wrote in message
news:Rb-...
>
>
> "John Keiser" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Tell us the make and model of the DDV burner and the version of the
>> software you are using.
>> You will get a better answer.
>
> Thank you
>
> Belarc Advisor reports the burner to be an
> ATAPI DVD A DH20A4P ATA Device
> as does Win7 Device Manager
>
> As I said, I was trying to create a system image of my Window 7
> installation. So I suppose I can safely say the software is within
> Windows 7.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Jack Gillis" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>
>>> I have Win 7 64 bit installed on my laptop as well as my desktop. System
>>> images for both are on external HD's.
>>>
>>> On the laptop, I have created a system image on blank DVD's using
>>> DVD-R's. No problems -- I can restore from the DVD's.
>>>
>>> However, when I try to create a system image on blank DVD-R's on my
>>> desktop, I get a message saying something like, "format was
>>> unsuccessful." If I use a DVD+RW the process runs to completion and I
>>> can restore from it. I had to use RW's because I don't have any +R's.
>>>
>>> I get the same unsuccessful message if I try to format a blank DVD-R
>>> with Win 7.
>>>
>>> My DVD burner on the desktop says it is a +R. Does that mean I can't
>>> use -R's.
>>>
>>> I've no idea whether this is a Win 7 problem, burner problem or a
>>> problem on my part.
>>>
>>> Would someone please try to straighten out the dense old mind?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>
>>

Clearly you are not alone:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...6-1beb6c51eb19

"John Keiser" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I asked because old DVD units were often limited to certain media.
>
> Your DVD unit should not be the problem if it is a LiteOn DH-20A4P which
> has the capability of using either meda:
>
> "The LiteOn DH-20A4P is a half-heigt internal dvd reader and burner
> combination drive. With its support of Double Layer DVD recording, you can
> burn up to 8.5 GB of data on a single DVD-DL disc. This drive has special
> technology to reduce noice during reading and burning, and multiple other
> technologies ensure burning quality.
>
> Features
> . ATAPI/E-IDE Half-Height internal DVD+R / DVD+RW / DVD-R / DVD-RW /
> DVD+R9/ DVD-R9 / DVD-RAM / DVD-ROM / CD-R/ CD-RW / CD-ROM combination
> drive.
> . Support Double Layer DVD+/- R9 Recording Function.
> . SMART-WRITE: Through drive's self-learning function, automatically
> detect and decide the optimal write strategy of DVD recordable media (
> DVD+R & DVD-R ) for the best write quality.
> . Support Fixed Packet, Variable Packet, TAO, SAO, DAO, Random Access
> time, Incremental, sequential recording, restricted overwrite, Layer Jump
> recording, Raw Mode Burning & Over-Burn."
>
> Perhaps someone better versed can use that info to solve the issue.
>
>
>
>
> "Jack Gillis" <> wrote in message
> news:Rb-...
>>
>>
>> "John Keiser" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Tell us the make and model of the DDV burner and the version of the
>>> software you are using.
>>> You will get a better answer.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Belarc Advisor reports the burner to be an
>> ATAPI DVD A DH20A4P ATA Device
>> as does Win7 Device Manager
>>
>> As I said, I was trying to create a system image of my Window 7
>> installation. So I suppose I can safely say the software is within
>> Windows 7.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jack Gillis" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>>
>>>> I have Win 7 64 bit installed on my laptop as well as my desktop.
>>>> System images for both are on external HD's.
>>>>
>>>> On the laptop, I have created a system image on blank DVD's using
>>>> DVD-R's. No problems -- I can restore from the DVD's.
>>>>
>>>> However, when I try to create a system image on blank DVD-R's on my
>>>> desktop, I get a message saying something like, "format was
>>>> unsuccessful." If I use a DVD+RW the process runs to completion and I
>>>> can restore from it. I had to use RW's because I don't have any +R's.
>>>>
>>>> I get the same unsuccessful message if I try to format a blank DVD-R
>>>> with Win 7.
>>>>
>>>> My DVD burner on the desktop says it is a +R. Does that mean I can't
>>>> use -R's.
>>>>
>>>> I've no idea whether this is a Win 7 problem, burner problem or a
>>>> problem on my part.
>>>>
>>>> Would someone please try to straighten out the dense old mind?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>>
>
>

With all these problems users are having with win7... I can see why
Microsoft does not want to create a Newsgroups for Win 7 .






John Keiser wrote:
> Clearly you are not alone:
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...6-1beb6c51eb19
>
> "John Keiser"<> wrote in message
> news:...
>> I asked because old DVD units were often limited to certain media.
>>
>> Your DVD unit should not be the problem if it is a LiteOn DH-20A4P which
>> has the capability of using either meda:
>>
>> "The LiteOn DH-20A4P is a half-heigt internal dvd reader and burner
>> combination drive. With its support of Double Layer DVD recording, you can
>> burn up to 8.5 GB of data on a single DVD-DL disc. This drive has special
>> technology to reduce noice during reading and burning, and multiple other
>> technologies ensure burning quality.
>>
>> Features
>> . ATAPI/E-IDE Half-Height internal DVD+R / DVD+RW / DVD-R / DVD-RW /
>> DVD+R9/ DVD-R9 / DVD-RAM / DVD-ROM / CD-R/ CD-RW / CD-ROM combination
>> drive.
>> . Support Double Layer DVD+/- R9 Recording Function.
>> . SMART-WRITE: Through drive's self-learning function, automatically
>> detect and decide the optimal write strategy of DVD recordable media (
>> DVD+R& DVD-R ) for the best write quality.
>> . Support Fixed Packet, Variable Packet, TAO, SAO, DAO, Random Access
>> time, Incremental, sequential recording, restricted overwrite, Layer Jump
>> recording, Raw Mode Burning& Over-Burn."
>>
>> Perhaps someone better versed can use that info to solve the issue.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jack Gillis"<> wrote in message
>> news:Rb-...
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Keiser"<> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Tell us the make and model of the DDV burner and the version of the
>>>> software you are using.
>>>> You will get a better answer.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Belarc Advisor reports the burner to be an
>>> ATAPI DVD A DH20A4P ATA Device
>>> as does Win7 Device Manager
>>>
>>> As I said, I was trying to create a system image of my Window 7
>>> installation. So I suppose I can safely say the software is within
>>> Windows 7.
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jack Gillis"<> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Win 7 64 bit installed on my laptop as well as my desktop.
>>>>> System images for both are on external HD's.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the laptop, I have created a system image on blank DVD's using
>>>>> DVD-R's. No problems -- I can restore from the DVD's.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, when I try to create a system image on blank DVD-R's on my
>>>>> desktop, I get a message saying something like, "format was
>>>>> unsuccessful." If I use a DVD+RW the process runs to completion and I
>>>>> can restore from it. I had to use RW's because I don't have any +R's.
>>>>>
>>>>> I get the same unsuccessful message if I try to format a blank DVD-R
>>>>> with Win 7.
>>>>>
>>>>> My DVD burner on the desktop says it is a +R. Does that mean I can't
>>>>> use -R's.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've no idea whether this is a Win 7 problem, burner problem or a
>>>>> problem on my part.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would someone please try to straighten out the dense old mind?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>