what is the difference between x64 and x86

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  1. PRATIK

    PRATIK Guest

    what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    PRATIK, Mar 21, 2011
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    VanguardLH Guest

    PRATIK wrote:

    > what is the difference between x64 and x86?


    And we're supposed to believe you've never heard of Google. Uh huh.
    Read the classbook your teacher assigned to you.
    VanguardLH, Mar 21, 2011
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  3. Richard Colton, Mar 21, 2011
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    occam Guest

    On 21/03/2011 09:10, Richard Colton wrote:
    > On 21/03/2011 04:43, PRATIK wrote:
    >> what is the difference between x64 and x86?

    >
    > 22
    >


    You mean x22 don't you?
    occam, Mar 21, 2011
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    LouB Guest

    LouB, Mar 21, 2011
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    Brian Cryer Guest

    "PRATIK" <> wrote in message
    news:im6l1e$udf$...
    > what is the difference between x64 and x86?


    x86 refers to the 32 bit architecture/instruction-set from Intel.
    x64 refers to the compatible 64 bit architecture, I think this might have
    originated from AMD but I'm not sure.
    In both cases other manufactures make compatible devices so the originating
    manufacturer doesn't matter.
    This article might help: http://everything.explained.at/X86_architecture/
    although it focuses more on x86 and less on x64.

    The key thing if you are downloading software is that x86 refers to 32 bit,
    and x64 to 64 bit.
    If your PC is less than 5(ish) years old then its hardware is probably 64
    bit, but it might be running a 32 bit operating system in which case if
    given a choise when downloading software you should go for the x86 version.
    If your are running a 64 bit operating system then go for the x64 version if
    one exists, but you might (depending on what it is) still be able to run
    with the 32 bit (x86) version.

    Hope this helps.
    --
    Brian Cryer
    http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
    Brian Cryer, Mar 21, 2011
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    Seth Guest

    "LouB" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > VanguardLH wrote:
    >> PRATIK wrote:
    >>
    >>> what is the difference between x64 and x86?

    >>
    >> And we're supposed to believe you've never heard of Google. Uh huh.
    >> Read the classbook your teacher assigned to you.

    >
    > In case the OP is not smart enough to use Google...
    > http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&s...q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?


    This is the proper way to spoon feed someone...
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    Seth, Mar 21, 2011
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    LouB Guest

    Seth wrote:
    >
    > "LouB" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> VanguardLH wrote:
    >>> PRATIK wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>
    >>> And we're supposed to believe you've never heard of Google. Uh huh.
    >>> Read the classbook your teacher assigned to you.

    >>
    >> In case the OP is not smart enough to use Google...
    >> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&s...q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>

    >
    > This is the proper way to spoon feed someone...
    > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >
    >

    That link is neat<vbg> How do you get it to do that?
    LouB, Mar 21, 2011
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  9. On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:52:14 -0400, LouB <> wrote:

    >Seth wrote:
    >>
    >> "LouB" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> VanguardLH wrote:
    >>>> PRATIK wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>>
    >>>> And we're supposed to believe you've never heard of Google. Uh huh.
    >>>> Read the classbook your teacher assigned to you.
    >>>
    >>> In case the OP is not smart enough to use Google...
    >>> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&s...q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>

    >>
    >> This is the proper way to spoon feed someone...
    >> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>
    >>

    >That link is neat<vbg> How do you get it to do that?



    Wow, you're not kidding. I've seen people send links to a Google page,
    but never anything like this. I would love to know how to do that!
    Maybe I'll Google it? : )
    Brian Matthews, Mar 21, 2011
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    SC Tom Guest

    "LouB" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Seth wrote:
    >>
    >> "LouB" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> VanguardLH wrote:
    >>>> PRATIK wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>>
    >>>> And we're supposed to believe you've never heard of Google. Uh huh.
    >>>> Read the classbook your teacher assigned to you.
    >>>
    >>> In case the OP is not smart enough to use Google...
    >>> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&s...q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?

    >>
    >> This is the proper way to spoon feed someone...
    >> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>
    >>

    > That link is neat<vbg> How do you get it to do that?


    <VBG> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how do I let me google that for you
    --
    SC Tom
    SC Tom, Mar 21, 2011
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    Seth Guest

    "SC Tom" <> wrote in message
    news:im7jnq$orb$-september.org...
    >
    > "LouB" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Seth wrote:
    >>>
    >>> "LouB" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> VanguardLH wrote:
    >>>>> PRATIK wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And we're supposed to believe you've never heard of Google. Uh huh.
    >>>>> Read the classbook your teacher assigned to you.
    >>>>
    >>>> In case the OP is not smart enough to use Google...
    >>>> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&s...q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>
    >>> This is the proper way to spoon feed someone...
    >>> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>
    >>>

    >> That link is neat<vbg> How do you get it to do that?

    >
    > <VBG> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how do I let me google that for you


    Beat me to it.
    Seth, Mar 21, 2011
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    Lewis Guest

    In message <im7jnq$orb$-september.org>
    SC Tom <> wrote:

    > "LouB" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Seth wrote:
    >>>
    >>> "LouB" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> VanguardLH wrote:
    >>>>> PRATIK wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And we're supposed to believe you've never heard of Google. Uh huh.
    >>>>> Read the classbook your teacher assigned to you.
    >>>>
    >>>> In case the OP is not smart enough to use Google...
    >>>> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&s...q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>
    >>> This is the proper way to spoon feed someone...
    >>> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>
    >>>

    >> That link is neat<vbg> How do you get it to do that?


    > <VBG> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how do I let me google that for you


    Bazinga!

    --
    'Never build a dungeon you wouldn't be happy to spend the night in
    yourself,' said the Patrician (...). 'The world would be a happier place
    if more people remembered that.' --Guards! Guards!
    Lewis, Mar 21, 2011
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    SC Tom Guest

    "Lewis" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In message <im7jnq$orb$-september.org>
    > SC Tom <> wrote:
    >
    >> <VBG> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how do I let me google that for you

    >
    > Bazinga!
    >
    > > 'Never build a dungeon you wouldn't be happy to spend the night in

    > yourself,' said the Patrician (...). 'The world would be a happier place
    > if more people remembered that.' --Guards! Guards!


    Gotta love Terry Pratchett!
    --
    SC Tom
    SC Tom, Mar 21, 2011
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    GreyCloud Guest

    On 3/21/11 5:00 AM, Brian Cryer wrote:
    > "PRATIK" <> wrote in message
    > news:im6l1e$udf$...
    >> what is the difference between x64 and x86?

    >
    > x86 refers to the 32 bit architecture/instruction-set from Intel.
    > x64 refers to the compatible 64 bit architecture, I think this might
    > have originated from AMD but I'm not sure.


    Yes. AMD developed the first 64-bit intel style cpu. This forced
    Intels hand to also develope along AMDs decisions... they didn't like
    to do that. It was the same thing that caught MS off guard when
    Netscape brought out the web browser for win 3.1 and the internet TCP/IP
    protocols for win 3.1. Same thing happened to Intel.

    > In both cases other manufactures make compatible devices so the
    > originating manufacturer doesn't matter.
    > This article might help:
    > http://everything.explained.at/X86_architecture/ although it focuses
    > more on x86 and less on x64.
    >
    > The key thing if you are downloading software is that x86 refers to 32
    > bit, and x64 to 64 bit.
    > If your PC is less than 5(ish) years old then its hardware is probably
    > 64 bit, but it might be running a 32 bit operating system in which case
    > if given a choise when downloading software you should go for the x86
    > version. If your are running a 64 bit operating system then go for the
    > x64 version if one exists, but you might (depending on what it is) still
    > be able to run with the 32 bit (x86) version.
    >
    > Hope this helps.



    --
    "If they can make you believe absurdities they can make you commit
    atrocities."
    by Voltaire
    GreyCloud, Mar 21, 2011
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    richard Guest

    On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:00:22 -0000, Brian Cryer wrote:

    > "PRATIK" <> wrote in message
    > news:im6l1e$udf$...
    >> what is the difference between x64 and x86?

    >
    > x86 refers to the 32 bit architecture/instruction-set from Intel.
    > x64 refers to the compatible 64 bit architecture, I think this might have
    > originated from AMD but I'm not sure.
    > In both cases other manufactures make compatible devices so the originating
    > manufacturer doesn't matter.
    > This article might help: http://everything.explained.at/X86_architecture/
    > although it focuses more on x86 and less on x64.
    >
    > The key thing if you are downloading software is that x86 refers to 32 bit,
    > and x64 to 64 bit.
    > If your PC is less than 5(ish) years old then its hardware is probably 64
    > bit, but it might be running a 32 bit operating system in which case if
    > given a choise when downloading software you should go for the x86 version.
    > If your are running a 64 bit operating system then go for the x64 version if
    > one exists, but you might (depending on what it is) still be able to run
    > with the 32 bit (x86) version.
    >
    > Hope this helps.


    Not exactly correct. The first home computers had what IBM called a 386.
    Then went to a 486.
    I remember seeing an old show from the 80's where the line was, "A 686?
    Hell, the 486 was just put on the market and you've got a 686? What
    happened to the 586?"
    Then pentium was introduced. As a response to the more powerful AMD.


    Beginning with the 80386 chip in 1978, which was a 16 bit one, IBM then
    began advancing the chips towards 32 bit.

    Quite frankly, Microsoft's use of x86 and x64 is a nostalgic misgnomer.
    Where x86 technically refers to the chip, MS is referring to the 32 bit
    stuff, whic is wrong because in the case of windows, it is the operating
    system software that is either 32 or 64 bit which has nothing to do with
    the chip hardware.
    richard, Mar 21, 2011
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    Tim Slattery Guest

    richard <> wrote:


    >Not exactly correct. The first home computers had what IBM called a 386.
    >Then went to a 486.
    >I remember seeing an old show from the 80's where the line was, "A 686?
    >Hell, the 486 was just put on the market and you've got a 686? What
    >happened to the 586?"
    >Then pentium was introduced. As a response to the more powerful AMD.


    Intel invented the name "Pentium" when a court ruled that they
    couldn't trademark numeric designations, like 8086, 80286, 880386,
    80486. They wanted to be able to claim to make something that AMD
    didn't make. So we had "Pentiums" instead of 586's.

    >Beginning with the 80386 chip in 1978, which was a 16 bit one, IBM then
    >began advancing the chips towards 32 bit.


    Intel made the chips, not IBM. And the 80386 was a 32-bit chip. There
    was an 80386SX that was a 32-bit processor that used a 16-bit bus to
    communicate with the rest of the computer.

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    http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
    Tim Slattery, Mar 21, 2011
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    Ken Blake Guest

    On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:22:23 -0700, richard <>
    wrote:

    > Not exactly correct. The first home computers had what IBM called a 386.



    Well, if you are focusing on being correct, that's not at all correct.
    The first home computers using Intel CPUs had an 8088 chip as their
    processor. The next generation was 80286. The 80386 wasn't until the
    third generation (and I've left out the 8086 and the 80186, since they
    were generally used only in specialty machines).



    > Then went to a 486.
    > I remember seeing an old show from the 80's where the line was, "A 686?
    > Hell, the 486 was just put on the market and you've got a 686? What
    > happened to the 586?"
    > Then pentium was introduced. As a response to the more powerful AMD.
    >
    >
    > Beginning with the 80386 chip in 1978, which was a 16 bit one,



    No, it was a 32-bit chip.
    Ken Blake, Mar 21, 2011
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    Char Jackson Guest

    On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:22:23 -0700, richard <>
    wrote:

    >On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:00:22 -0000, Brian Cryer wrote:
    >
    >> The key thing if you are downloading software is that x86 refers to 32 bit,
    >> and x64 to 64 bit.
    >> If your PC is less than 5(ish) years old then its hardware is probably 64
    >> bit, but it might be running a 32 bit operating system in which case if
    >> given a choise when downloading software you should go for the x86 version.
    >> If your are running a 64 bit operating system then go for the x64 version if
    >> one exists, but you might (depending on what it is) still be able to run
    >> with the 32 bit (x86) version.
    >>
    >> Hope this helps.

    >
    >Not exactly correct. The first home computers had what IBM called a 386.


    <snip>

    Seems like you're overlooking a whole lot of fun hardware that came
    before the 386. Notably, the 8086 & 8088, the 6502 & 6510, the
    Motorola 680x0 series, and the list goes on.

    --

    Char Jackson
    Char Jackson, Mar 21, 2011
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    Tom Lake Guest

    "PRATIK" wrote in message news:im6l1e$udf$...

    what is the difference between x64 and x86?


    x86 -x64 = x22
    Tom Lake, Mar 21, 2011
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    relic Guest

    "Brian Matthews" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:52:14 -0400, LouB <> wrote:
    >
    >>Seth wrote:
    >>>
    >>> "LouB" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> VanguardLH wrote:
    >>>>> PRATIK wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And we're supposed to believe you've never heard of Google. Uh huh.
    >>>>> Read the classbook your teacher assigned to you.
    >>>>
    >>>> In case the OP is not smart enough to use Google...
    >>>> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&s...q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> This is the proper way to spoon feed someone...
    >>> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what is the difference between x64 and x86?
    >>>
    >>>

    >>That link is neat<vbg> How do you get it to do that?

    >
    >
    > Wow, you're not kidding. I've seen people send links to a Google page,
    > but never anything like this. I would love to know how to do that!
    > Maybe I'll Google it? : )


    You've never seen it? I've been posting that link since January... you must
    have me blocked.
    relic, Mar 21, 2011
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