Updating Security Essentials (virus) definitions

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by W. eWatson, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. W. eWatson

    W. eWatson Guest

    Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    Did I miss something it the install?
     
    W. eWatson, Nov 7, 2011
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  2. W. eWatson wrote:
    > Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires
    > the user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this
    > regularly. Did I miss something it the install?


    The MSE definition updates are treated like any other updates. If you
    want them to be updated automatically, you have to set your update
    options to update automatically. Open "Windows Update" and click on
    "Change settings" in the left hand column of the page. Use the drop down
    menus and check boxes to set the update options.
    --
    Crash

    English is not my native tongue; I'm an American.
     
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Nov 7, 2011
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  3. W. eWatson

    ...winston Guest


    >"W. eWatson" wrote in message news:j98s2d$d34$...


    Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    Did I miss something it the install?
    >


    Microsoft Security Essentials uses Microsoft Update component of Windows
    Update to check for and download definition updates every 24 hours.

    To configure your system to receive updates ensure Microsoft Update is
    selected in the Windows Update settings:
    - Control Panel/System and Security/Windows Update/<Turn Updating on or
    off>
    Check -> Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new optional
    Microsoft software when I update Windows

    Note: MSE updates follow the same process used by your current Windows
    Update deployment settings
    - Automatic
    - Download but choose to install
    - Notify (choose whether to download and install)

    MSE is also preconfigured to perform a scan on 'schedule' and to check for
    updates prior to running a scheduled scan per its settings (found on the
    MSE/Settings tab). This update 'before scan' will run independently of
    Windows Update

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    ...winston, Nov 7, 2011
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  4. W. eWatson

    SC Tom Guest

    "...winston" <> wrote in message news:j990nr$egf$...
    >
    >>"W. eWatson" wrote in message news:j98s2d$d34$...

    >
    > Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    > user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    > Did I miss something it the install?
    >>

    >
    > Microsoft Security Essentials uses Microsoft Update component of Windows Update to check for and download definition
    > updates every 24 hours.
    >
    > To configure your system to receive updates ensure Microsoft Update is selected in the Windows Update settings:
    > - Control Panel/System and Security/Windows Update/<Turn Updating on or off>
    > Check -> Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new optional Microsoft software when I update Windows
    >
    > Note: MSE updates follow the same process used by your current Windows Update deployment settings
    > - Automatic
    > - Download but choose to install
    > - Notify (choose whether to download and install)
    >
    > MSE is also preconfigured to perform a scan on 'schedule' and to check for updates prior to running a scheduled scan
    > per its settings (found on the MSE/Settings tab). This update 'before scan' will run independently of Windows Update
    >


    That's not entirely correct. I have WU set to download and notify me of updates, but my MSE automatically downloads and
    installs the new definitions with no intervention from me. It will also do that before a scan, as you stated.
    --
    SC Tom
     
    SC Tom, Nov 7, 2011
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  5. W. eWatson

    VanguardLH Guest

    Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:

    > W. eWatson wrote:
    >> Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires
    >> the user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this
    >> regularly. Did I miss something it the install?

    >
    > The MSE definition updates are treated like any other updates. If you
    > want them to be updated automatically, you have to set your update
    > options to update automatically. Open "Windows Update" and click on
    > "Change settings" in the left hand column of the page. Use the drop down
    > menus and check boxes to set the update options.


    From past discussions, some including MVPs who said they had internal MS
    contacts, you need to leave the AU service enabled and set to Automatic
    startup but you do NOT need to leave WU setup to do automatic updates.
    MSE uses the AU service to get its updates. It doesn't rely on the WU
    settings. So you can configure WU to only alert you of Windows updates
    (but not download or install them) to prevent Microsoft from changing
    the state of your host until you decide to permit it but MSE can still
    use the AU service to get its automatic updates. That is, you don't get
    stuck with having your Windows automatically updated if you don't want
    that but you can still have MSE get its updates as long as the AU
    service is enabled and running (Automatic startup).

    MSE uses the AU service to check for its own updates. MSE does not use
    the schedule for the WU updates. MSE uses its own schedule (once every
    24 hours but may lag if the computer was powered off) which is not user
    configurable but it does it updates through the AU service. The closest
    that I've seen to let the user schedule when MSE gets its updates
    (through the AU service) is to add an event in Task Scheduler that runs
    "MpCmdRun.exe -SignatureUpdate" (I no longer have MSE so I can't verify
    this command-line switch will work). Another way was to configure the
    scheduled scan to check for updates before scanning and then schedule a
    [quick] scan every day. That was back a couple years (2009) when MSE
    had problems initiating its update so this was a workaround to make it
    to an update whenever you scheduled a scan.

    It's possible some anti-virus/malware disabled the Automatic Updates
    service or the user thought it was an unneccessary and disabled it which
    means MSE won't be able to get its updates. The AU service should be
    set to Automatic for startup on Windows startup and should currently be
    running. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/959894, method 3. In the
    past, MS has used the AU service to push covert updates even if WU
    settings were to notify only. As a consequence, many users that got
    burned with BSOD bricks upon return to their host decided to disable the
    AU service. When they wanted to do a WU update (after saving a backup
    image of their OS partition), they would enable the AU service and
    perform a manual WU update, install the updates, and then disable the AU
    service. For such users, that also meant MSE wouldn't get its separate
    updates. See article http://preview.tinyurl.com/27k5l9o to see how MS
    decided you will have WU set to automatic which you have to set back.
    Other users found updates getting applied when WU was set to disable and
    managed to avoid the covert updates by disabling the AU service.
     
    VanguardLH, Nov 7, 2011
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  6. W. eWatson

    VanguardLH Guest

    W. eWatson wrote:

    > Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    > user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    > Did I miss something it the install?


    What other effective virus detection software does not require
    definition updates? Or did you mean to ask why your instance of MSE is
    not performing *automatic* updates? In the latter case, just how long
    have you waited to get an automated update? You never mentioned how
    long you waited to see if MSE updated itself.

    MSE does a check every 24 hours but the time is randomized to eliminate
    the entire community of MSE users from slamming the update server at the
    same time. The update interval is not user configurable also to
    eliminate a huge load on the update server since users are known to
    schedule events at common times, like on the hour or at 10- or
    15-minutes of the hour rather than at, say, 12, 18, 38, or 53 minutes of
    the scheduled hour.

    If you want to ensure that MSE gets an update, if available, by a
    certain time of day then look at my reply to Dummy (hey, he chose that
    moniker for himself). You could schedule a daily [quick] scan with the
    option enabled to check for updates before running the scan. You could
    try using a scheduled event in Task Scheduler using the command-line
    switch that I mentioned but I never tried that when I used to have MSE.
     
    VanguardLH, Nov 7, 2011
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  7. W. eWatson

    Zaidy036 Guest

    Zaidy036, Nov 7, 2011
    #7
  8. You have to have automatic updates on to have it done for you. Since I
    do not like anything performed on my computer without my permission I go
    to this site after computer startup and download and manually install
    the MSE updates every morning. I have a icon on my desktop pointing to
    this URL.

    https://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Definitions/ADL.aspx
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.

    W. eWatson wrote:
    > Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires
    > the user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this
    > regularly. Did I miss something it the install?
     
    Bill Bradshaw, Nov 7, 2011
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  9. W. eWatson

    W. eWatson Guest

    On 11/7/2011 8:38 AM, SC Tom wrote:
    >
    > "...winston" <> wrote in message
    > news:j990nr$egf$...
    >>
    >>> "W. eWatson" wrote in message news:j98s2d$d34$...

    >>
    >> Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    >> user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    >> Did I miss something it the install?
    >>>

    >>
    >> Microsoft Security Essentials uses Microsoft Update component of
    >> Windows Update to check for and download definition updates every 24
    >> hours.
    >>
    >> To configure your system to receive updates ensure Microsoft Update is
    >> selected in the Windows Update settings:
    >> - Control Panel/System and Security/Windows Update/<Turn Updating on
    >> or off>
    >> Check -> Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new
    >> optional Microsoft software when I update Windows
    >>
    >> Note: MSE updates follow the same process used by your current Windows
    >> Update deployment settings
    >> - Automatic
    >> - Download but choose to install
    >> - Notify (choose whether to download and install)
    >>
    >> MSE is also preconfigured to perform a scan on 'schedule' and to check
    >> for updates prior to running a scheduled scan per its settings (found
    >> on the MSE/Settings tab). This update 'before scan' will run
    >> independently of Windows Update
    >>

    >
    > That's not entirely correct. I have WU set to download and notify me of
    > updates, but my MSE automatically downloads and installs the new
    > definitions with no intervention from me. It will also do that before a
    > scan, as you stated.

    Don't see a System Security under the CP. Just System. Nothing about
    security.

    WU? AU (auto updates?)
     
    W. eWatson, Nov 7, 2011
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  10. W. eWatson

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, W.

    MSE (Microsoft Security Essentials) has its own control panel, including
    several options on the Settings tab. Among others, I have checked the box
    to "Check for the latest virus and spyware definitions before running a
    scheduled scan", and I've set it to run a Quick scan once a week.
    Definition updates arrive at least once a day, but I can manually check
    during the day, too.

    WU = Windows Update - checks for updates to the Windows operating system.
    MU = Microsoft Update - checks for updates to Windows PLUS Word and other
    Microsoft applications you might have installed.
    AU = Automatic Update - as you guessed.

    All these settings are available from Start | Windows Update. On the main
    WU screen, click "Change settings". On the next page, check the box under
    "Microsoft Update". And also choose whether and when to check for, download
    and install updates.

    I've been using MSE since it first became available a couple of years ago.
    I like it! ;<)

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
    Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


    "W. eWatson" wrote in message news:j99isf$i1v$...

    On 11/7/2011 8:38 AM, SC Tom wrote:
    >
    > "...winston" <> wrote in message
    > news:j990nr$egf$...
    >>
    >>> "W. eWatson" wrote in message news:j98s2d$d34$...

    >>
    >> Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    >> user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    >> Did I miss something it the install?
    >>>

    >>
    >> Microsoft Security Essentials uses Microsoft Update component of
    >> Windows Update to check for and download definition updates every 24
    >> hours.
    >>
    >> To configure your system to receive updates ensure Microsoft Update is
    >> selected in the Windows Update settings:
    >> - Control Panel/System and Security/Windows Update/<Turn Updating on
    >> or off>
    >> Check -> Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new
    >> optional Microsoft software when I update Windows
    >>
    >> Note: MSE updates follow the same process used by your current Windows
    >> Update deployment settings
    >> - Automatic
    >> - Download but choose to install
    >> - Notify (choose whether to download and install)
    >>
    >> MSE is also preconfigured to perform a scan on 'schedule' and to check
    >> for updates prior to running a scheduled scan per its settings (found
    >> on the MSE/Settings tab). This update 'before scan' will run
    >> independently of Windows Update
    >>

    >
    > That's not entirely correct. I have WU set to download and notify me of
    > updates, but my MSE automatically downloads and installs the new
    > definitions with no intervention from me. It will also do that before a
    > scan, as you stated.

    Don't see a System Security under the CP. Just System. Nothing about
    security.

    WU? AU (auto updates?)
     
    R. C. White, Nov 7, 2011
    #10
  11. On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:04:26 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:

    > Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    > user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    > Did I miss something it the install?


    My experience differs from several of the others' in this thread, so
    here goes:

    1. I have Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) set to update
    automatically.

    2. I have Windows Update (WU) configured to inform me of available
    updates and to let me update manually.

    3. From time to time (it does seem to be once a day), MSE updates itself
    automatically.

    4. From time to time, roughly every week, WU informs me it has updates
    to download and install.

    5. Frequently, the WU list includes the next update for MSE. That
    happens when the list is generated before MS has updated itself.

    6. On those occasions, if I check MSE in the WU list, WU updates it.

    7. OTOH, If I don't check MWE in the WU list, MSE updates itself before
    long.

    I have seen the above behavior many times, and it remains consistent.
    However, I find it annoying :) (I want WU to ignore MSE.)

    HTH,
    Gino

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Nov 7, 2011
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  12. W. eWatson

    SC Tom Guest

    "W. eWatson" <> wrote in message news:j99isf$i1v$...
    > On 11/7/2011 8:38 AM, SC Tom wrote:
    >>
    >> "...winston" <> wrote in message
    >> news:j990nr$egf$...
    >>>
    >>>> "W. eWatson" wrote in message news:j98s2d$d34$...
    >>>
    >>> Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    >>> user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    >>> Did I miss something it the install?
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Microsoft Security Essentials uses Microsoft Update component of
    >>> Windows Update to check for and download definition updates every 24
    >>> hours.
    >>>
    >>> To configure your system to receive updates ensure Microsoft Update is
    >>> selected in the Windows Update settings:
    >>> - Control Panel/System and Security/Windows Update/<Turn Updating on
    >>> or off>
    >>> Check -> Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new
    >>> optional Microsoft software when I update Windows
    >>>
    >>> Note: MSE updates follow the same process used by your current Windows
    >>> Update deployment settings
    >>> - Automatic
    >>> - Download but choose to install
    >>> - Notify (choose whether to download and install)
    >>>
    >>> MSE is also preconfigured to perform a scan on 'schedule' and to check
    >>> for updates prior to running a scheduled scan per its settings (found
    >>> on the MSE/Settings tab). This update 'before scan' will run
    >>> independently of Windows Update
    >>>

    >>
    >> That's not entirely correct. I have WU set to download and notify me of
    >> updates, but my MSE automatically downloads and installs the new
    >> definitions with no intervention from me. It will also do that before a
    >> scan, as you stated.

    > Don't see a System Security under the CP. Just System. Nothing about
    > security.
    >
    > WU? AU (auto updates?)


    Windows Update
    --
    SC Tom
     
    SC Tom, Nov 7, 2011
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  13. Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    > On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:04:26 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
    >
    >> Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    >> user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    >> Did I miss something it the install?

    >
    > My experience differs from several of the others' in this thread, so
    > here goes:
    >
    > 1. I have Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) set to update
    > automatically.


    How do you set MSE to update automatically?

    --
    Crash

    "It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory."
    ~ W. Edwards Deming ~
     
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Nov 7, 2011
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  14. On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:13:29 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:

    > Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:04:26 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
    >>
    >>> Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    >>> user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    >>> Did I miss something it the install?

    >>
    >> My experience differs from several of the others' in this thread, so
    >> here goes:
    >>
    >> 1. I have Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) set to update
    >> automatically.

    >
    > How do you set MSE to update automatically?


    Actually, it looks like you don't.

    Open MSE and click on the updates tab. The second line of the panel is
    "Security Essentials updates your virus and spyware definitions
    automatically to help protect your computer."

    The last line of the panel is "These definitions are updated
    automatically. You can also click Update to update definitions on
    demand."

    I knew it was set to update automatically, I just forgot that it wasn't
    me who set it that way :)

    I can't find any settings to change that behavior, and I have no idea
    whether there are any Registry entries to change it. BTW, I have no
    desire to change it :)

    Thanks for noticing that.

    And all of you MSE fans out there, does anyone know of a way to change
    the update setting?

    In registry key

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\Signature
    Updates

    There is the value:

    SignatureUpdateInterval

    It's a REG_DWORD, currently set to 0x18, i.e., one day. If you want to
    turn updates off, you could (if allowed) set it to a value like 0x18000,
    or 4096 days. That's not off, but it's also not often :)

    Or maybe decimal -1 (0xFFFFFFFF) would turn it off.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Nov 8, 2011
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  15. W. eWatson

    ...winston Guest

    "SC Tom" wrote in message news:j991hl$k6p$...


    "...winston" <> wrote in message
    news:j990nr$egf$...
    >
    >>"W. eWatson" wrote in message news:j98s2d$d34$...

    >
    > Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials requires the
    > user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed to do this regularly.
    > Did I miss something it the install?
    >>

    >
    > Microsoft Security Essentials uses Microsoft Update component of Windows
    > Update to check for and download definition updates every 24 hours.
    >
    > To configure your system to receive updates ensure Microsoft Update is
    > selected in the Windows Update settings:
    > - Control Panel/System and Security/Windows Update/<Turn Updating on or
    > off>
    > Check -> Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new
    > optional Microsoft software when I update Windows
    >
    > Note: MSE updates follow the same process used by your current Windows
    > Update deployment settings
    > - Automatic
    > - Download but choose to install
    > - Notify (choose whether to download and install)
    >
    > MSE is also preconfigured to perform a scan on 'schedule' and to check
    > for updates prior to running a scheduled scan per its settings (found on
    > the MSE/Settings tab). This update 'before scan' will run independently
    > of Windows Update
    >>


    >

    That's not entirely correct. I have WU set to download and notify me of
    updates, but my MSE automatically downloads and
    installs the new definitions with no intervention from me. It will also do
    that before a scan, as you stated.
    --
    SC Tom
    >


    Correct but not all encompassing.

    MSE updates automatically on a non configurable random schedule to prevent
    overload on the server. Rather than introduce a random variable (and an
    often repeated chronic discussion that has lived elsewhere for a few years)
    it seemed appropriate to first recommend that WU/MU was functioning and
    configured as noted. The MSE random update iirc as explained by MSFT
    during the early ongoing beta uses BITS but not WU/MU - but that would
    introduce another variable <g>.

    Many folks don't like the auto-update via WU/MU or the random update (loss
    of control perception) - pros/cons of each and a lot of fence-sitting in
    between.

    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp mail
     
    ...winston, Nov 8, 2011
    #15
  16. Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    > On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:13:29 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >
    >> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:04:26 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials
    >>>> requires the user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed
    >>>> to do this regularly. Did I miss something it the install?
    >>> My experience differs from several of the others' in this thread,
    >>> so here goes:
    >>>
    >>> 1. I have Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) set to update
    >>> automatically.


    >> How do you set MSE to update automatically?

    >
    > Actually, it looks like you don't.


    <snipped>

    It is confusing because both MSE and WU check for definition updates,
    but at different times. I have WU set to check and notify for updates,
    but not install. If WU checks before MSE does, and there is an update
    available, it shows up in WU as an available optional update. If I don't
    install it manually, MSE will install it when it checks later.
    --
    Crash

    "Never say you're sorry. It's a sign of weakness."
    ~ Leroy Jethro Gibbs ~
     
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Nov 8, 2011
    #16
  17. On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:58:49 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:

    > Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:13:29 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>
    >>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:04:26 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials
    >>>>> requires the user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed
    >>>>> to do this regularly. Did I miss something it the install?
    >>>> My experience differs from several of the others' in this thread,
    >>>> so here goes:
    >>>>
    >>>> 1. I have Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) set to update
    >>>> automatically.

    >
    >>> How do you set MSE to update automatically?

    >>
    >> Actually, it looks like you don't.

    >
    > <snipped>
    >
    > It is confusing because both MSE and WU check for definition updates,
    > but at different times. I have WU set to check and notify for updates,
    > but not install. If WU checks before MSE does, and there is an update
    > available, it shows up in WU as an available optional update. If I don't
    > install it manually, MSE will install it when it checks later.


    Exactly what I said in my post, but it was so wordy compared to yours, I
    can't blame you for not reading it :)

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Nov 8, 2011
    #17
  18. Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    > On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:58:49 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >
    >> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:13:29 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >>>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:04:26 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials
    >>>>>> requires the user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed
    >>>>>> to do this regularly. Did I miss something it the install?
    >>>>> My experience differs from several of the others' in this thread,
    >>>>> so here goes:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> 1. I have Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) set to update
    >>>>> automatically.
    >>>> How do you set MSE to update automatically?
    >>> Actually, it looks like you don't.

    >> <snipped>
    >>
    >> It is confusing because both MSE and WU check for definition updates,
    >> but at different times. I have WU set to check and notify for updates,
    >> but not install. If WU checks before MSE does, and there is an update
    >> available, it shows up in WU as an available optional update. If I don't
    >> install it manually, MSE will install it when it checks later.

    >
    > Exactly what I said in my post, but it was so wordy compared to yours, I
    > can't blame you for not reading it :)


    I'm easily confused. :)
    --
    Crash

    "Never say you're sorry. It's a sign of weakness."
    ~ Leroy Jethro Gibbs ~
     
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Nov 8, 2011
    #18
  19. On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:56:47 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:

    > Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:58:49 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>
    >>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:13:29 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    >>>>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:04:26 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Unlike other virus detection s/w, it looks like Essentials
    >>>>>>> requires the user to update definitions. My old McAfee seemed
    >>>>>>> to do this regularly. Did I miss something it the install?
    >>>>>> My experience differs from several of the others' in this thread,
    >>>>>> so here goes:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> 1. I have Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) set to update
    >>>>>> automatically.
    >>>>> How do you set MSE to update automatically?
    >>>> Actually, it looks like you don't.
    >>> <snipped>
    >>>
    >>> It is confusing because both MSE and WU check for definition updates,
    >>> but at different times. I have WU set to check and notify for updates,
    >>> but not install. If WU checks before MSE does, and there is an update
    >>> available, it shows up in WU as an available optional update. If I don't
    >>> install it manually, MSE will install it when it checks later.

    >>
    >> Exactly what I said in my post, but it was so wordy compared to yours, I
    >> can't blame you for not reading it :)

    >
    > I'm easily confused. :)


    And I'm easily amused - I got a good laugh from that :)

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Nov 8, 2011
    #19
  20. W. eWatson

    Guest

    put this in a cmd file and schedule it to run it task scheduler.

    c:
    cd\Program Files\Microsoft Security Client\Antimalware
    mpcmdrun -signatureupdate
     
    , Nov 11, 2011
    #20
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