Repair Install

[Ken1943]

I did this a few times with XP, but never with Win 7

Any hints besides what I find with a search.

I do have the correct dvd/sp1

Thanks


KenW

 

[Bob H]

I did this a few times with XP, but never with Win 7

Any hints besides what I find with a search.

I do have the correct dvd/sp1

Thanks


KenW

This is to do a repair install without losing data:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...03?msgId=1943f12e-dde2-41e7-9529-983677375d15
But if you just want to repair the bootup of win7 then:

Insert your windows 7 dvd into the dvd/cd drive and boot from it, once
at the install screen click on 'Repair'something or other at the bottom
left of the screen/install window.

I can't remember the exact sequence of events now, but that is basically
to just repair the boot files

 

[Paul]

I did this a few times with XP, but never with Win 7

Any hints besides what I find with a search.

I do have the correct dvd/sp1

Thanks


KenW

We need to be more precise about this.

On WinXP, you can repair install with a slipstreamed CD. Or
with a real CD at the appropriate Service Pack level. Pretty
flexible.

With Windows 7, it's recommended to use an *actual* Win7 SP1 DVD
for the job, not a slipstreamed one. At least here...

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

This is not a big deal. Simply back up C: and SYSTEM RESERVED partitions
first. Try your best to do the Repair Install. If it's a dismal flop,
restore from backup

On the day I need to do a Repair install, I'll be using one
of the files I downloaded. I got these from a digitalriver address.
Pop the filenames into Google, to find a source URL. (I like to
download both, because infrequently, there's need of a 32 bit file,
even when working with a 64 bit OS. So the 32 bit ISO is a "file
repository" for me, for emergencies. This way, I can't possibly
be missing a needed version.)

X17-24208.iso 32-bit Windows 7 Home Premium x86 SP1 (bootable)
X17-24209.iso 64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 (bootable)

Depending on where you live in the world. you may need a different
SKU, than those two numbers imply. I've seen webpages, with a whole
page full of different ISO9660 files for download from places like
digitalriver.

As for the operation itself, I think you end up with a Windows.Old
folder of some sort, when you do it. You can use Disk Cleanup, to
attempt to remove the Windows.Old (see step 22 of the above tutorial).
Otherwise, Windows will likely give you a hard time, if you try to
delete it in the Trash. Try Disk Cleanup first, and see if there's
an option in there for that kind of cleanup.

That also implies a certain minimum amount of free disk space. If you
originally installed with a "small C:" configuration, you're going to
need space for the Windows.old folder. At least temporarily, until
the Repair install is finished. It would be embarrassing, to run out
of space, half way through the install.

Paul

 

[Ken1943]

I did this a few times with XP, but never with Win 7

Any hints besides what I find with a search.

I do have the correct dvd/sp1

Thanks


KenW

I did find a site that explained everything, but like letting windows
start, and running setup again. Just a couple of extra steps as opposed
to xp.

I do have the correct dvd with sp1.

I am getting reboots because of wmiprvse.exe and ntdll.dll. I ran a scan
with my antivirus and Kaspersky boot antivirus cd. Also ran sfc /scannow
and got no hits.

I think I covered all my bases and a repair install was the next step.

Time will tell !!!!


KenW

 

[Paul]

I did find a site that explained everything, but like letting windows
start, and running setup again. Just a couple of extra steps as opposed
to xp.

I do have the correct dvd with sp1.

I am getting reboots because of wmiprvse.exe and ntdll.dll. I ran a scan
with my antivirus and Kaspersky boot antivirus cd. Also ran sfc /scannow
and got no hits.

I think I covered all my bases and a repair install was the next step.

Time will tell !!!!


KenW

Not exactly related but...

http://superuser.com/questions/460352/wmi-provider-host-wmiprvse-exe-ntdll-dll-nonstop-15-cpu-usage

( http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2009/04/13/wmi-rebuilding-the-wmi-repository.aspx )

winmgmt /verifyrepository

Apparently the WMI repository contents can be corrupted, and there are
commands you can run to verify it.

Probably has nothing to do with the problem, but might be fun to try out.

Paul

 

[Ken1943]

Not exactly related but...

http://superuser.com/questions/460352/wmi-provider-host-wmiprvse-exe-ntdll-dll-nonstop-15-cpu-usage

( http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2009/04/13/wmi-rebuilding-the-wmi-repository.aspx )

winmgmt /verifyrepository

Apparently the WMI repository contents can be corrupted, and there are
commands you can run to verify it.

Probably has nothing to do with the problem, but might be fun to try out.

Paul

Ohhhhhh Yesssss I Will


KenW

 

[...winston]

"Bob H" wrote in message But if you just want to repair the bootup of win7 then:

Insert your windows 7 dvd into the dvd/cd drive and boot from it, once
at the install screen click on 'Repair'something or other at the bottom
left of the screen/install window.

* I can't remember the exact sequence of events now, but that is basically
to just repair the boot files*
Reference
Windows 7 Startup Repair using a Windows 7 DVD
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/toolsofthetrade/ss/windows-7-startup-repair..htm

Options available when booting from the DVD
http://0.tqn.com/d/pcsupport/1/0/i/4/-/-/windows-7-startup-repair-7.jpg

Note: The DVD used should be the same Service Pack level and bitness (32 or 64) as the currently installed o/s being repaired.
Additionally, ensure that all USB storage devices (thumb, external, etc) are disconnected.

 

[Daniel47]

"Bob H" wrote in message

But if you just want to repair the bootup of win7 then:

Insert your windows 7 dvd into the dvd/cd drive and boot from it, once
at the install screen click on 'Repair'something or other at the bottom
left of the screen/install window.

* I can't remember the exact sequence of events now, but that is basically
to just repair the boot files*

Reference
Windows 7 Startup Repair using a Windows 7 DVD
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/toolsofthetrade/ss/windows-7-startup-repair.htm


Options available when booting from the DVD
http://0.tqn.com/d/pcsupport/1/0/i/4/-/-/windows-7-startup-repair-7.jpg

Note: The DVD used should be the same Service Pack level and bitness (32
or 64) as the currently installed o/s being repaired. Additionally,
ensure that all USB storage devices (thumb, external, etc) are
disconnected.

I can understand that the DVD used would have to be the same bitness (32
or 64) as the currently installed o/s, but why the same Service Pack level??

If I installed the original Win7 on this computer several years ago and
have been updating the system each month, I would now be at Win7 SP2 or
there-abouts, so are you suggesting I need to now go and buy a Win7 SP2
disk??

I would have thought, at worst case, I could use my original disk to fix
the system and then let the system be updated by getting any needed
connecting to the Internet!

Daniel

 

[Robin Bignall]

I can understand that the DVD used would have to be the same bitness (32
or 64) as the currently installed o/s, but why the same Service Pack level??

If I installed the original Win7 on this computer several years ago and
have been updating the system each month, I would now be at Win7 SP2 or
there-abouts, so are you suggesting I need to now go and buy a Win7 SP2
disk??

I would have thought, at worst case, I could use my original disk to fix
the system and then let the system be updated by getting any needed
connecting to the Internet!

That's how it should work.

 

[Ken1943]

I can understand that the DVD used would have to be the same bitness (32
or 64) as the currently installed o/s, but why the same Service Pack level??

If I installed the original Win7 on this computer several years ago and
have been updating the system each month, I would now be at Win7 SP2 or
there-abouts, so are you suggesting I need to now go and buy a Win7 SP2
disk??

I would have thought, at worst case, I could use my original disk to fix
the system and then let the system be updated by getting any needed
connecting to the Internet!

Daniel

You can get windows 7/sp1 iso files here.

http://www.w7forums.com/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads-t12325.html

Look for your version ( Home, Pro or Ultimate) and 32 or 64 bit.
If you have sp1 installed, you must use a sp1 iso for repair.

If you wish to do a complete reinstall, because of malware or
windows gave up the ghost, you use the iso with your key.

I would get copies because you may need them in the future.


KenW

 

[Ken1943]

I can understand that the DVD used would have to be the same bitness (32
or 64) as the currently installed o/s, but why the same Service Pack level??

If I installed the original Win7 on this computer several years ago and
have been updating the system each month, I would now be at Win7 SP2 or
there-abouts, so are you suggesting I need to now go and buy a Win7 SP2
disk??

I would have thought, at worst case, I could use my original disk to fix
the system and then let the system be updated by getting any needed
connecting to the Internet!

Daniel

They are legal copies to use with your key.
Sp1 was a fairly big download and this is just faster and safer.


KenW

 

[...winston]

"(e-mail address removed)" wrote in message

winston wrote

I can understand that the DVD used would have to be the same bitness (32
or 64) as the currently installed o/s, but why the same Service Pack level??

If I installed the original Win7 on this computer several years ago and
have been updating the system each month, I would now be at Win7 SP2 or
there-abouts, so are you suggesting I need to now go and buy a Win7 SP2
disk??

I would have thought, at worst case, I could use my original disk to fix
the system and then let the system be updated by getting any needed
connecting to the Internet!
Depends on what you want to do..

Wipe and reinstall Windows
- use the original DVD then install the latest Service Pack(s) later

Repair Install or perform an inplace upgrade of a specific Service Pack level of Windows
- use a DVD with the same Service Pack level

The current Service Pack for Win7 is Service Pack 1

For a complete run-down of what you need to do a repair install/in-place upgrade of Windows 7 see:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

Also, Ken provided a link to obtain Win7 Iso Sp1's if needed (just use your product key for activation when necessary)

 

[Daniel47]

You can get windows 7/sp1 iso files here.

http://www.w7forums.com/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads-t12325.html

Look for your version ( Home, Pro or Ultimate) and 32 or 64 bit.
If you have sp1 installed, you must use a sp1 iso for repair.

If you wish to do a complete reinstall, because of malware or
windows gave up the ghost, you use the iso with your key.

I would get copies because you may need them in the future.


KenW

So you *are* suggesting I can turn my current original Win7 Pro DVD into
a coaster, then!!

Daniel

 

[Daniel47]

"(e-mail address removed)" wrote in message


I can understand that the DVD used would have to be the same bitness (32
or 64) as the currently installed o/s, but why the same Service Pack
level??

If I installed the original Win7 on this computer several years ago and
have been updating the system each month, I would now be at Win7 SP2 or
there-abouts, so are you suggesting I need to now go and buy a Win7 SP2
disk??

I would have thought, at worst case, I could use my original disk to fix
the system and then let the system be updated by getting any needed
connecting to the Internet!

Depends on what you want to do..

Wipe and reinstall Windows
- use the original DVD then install the latest Service Pack(s) later

Repair Install or perform an inplace upgrade of a specific Service Pack
level of Windows
- use a DVD with the same Service Pack level

The current Service Pack for Win7 is Service Pack 1

For a complete run-down of what you need to do a repair install/in-place
upgrade of Windows 7 see:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

Also, Ken provided a link to obtain Win7 Iso Sp1's if needed (just use
your product key for activation when necessary)

So is everyone happy to have to do a download of Win7 Pro SP1 rather
than using the original Win7 Pro disk and just D/L the various updates??

Seems a waste to me!!

Daniel

 

[Wolf K]

So is everyone happy to have to do a download of Win7 Pro SP1 rather
than using the original Win7 Pro disk and just D/L the various updates??

Seems a waste to me!!

Daniel

It's quicker.

 

[Paul]

So is everyone happy to have to do a download of Win7 Pro SP1 rather
than using the original Win7 Pro disk and just D/L the various updates??

Seems a waste to me!!

Daniel

Seeing as you identify the link, start the download, and walk away...

It's not a big deal. You can leave the download running overnight if you want.

The big deal, is when those links to the download files are no longer available.

Paul

 

[...winston]

"(e-mail address removed)" wrote in message news:[email protected] is everyone happy to have to do a download of Win7 Pro SP1 rather
than using the original Win7 Pro disk and just D/L the various updates??

Seems a waste to me!!
If you need to repair a Win7 SP1 installation and only have a Win7 RTM disk then you've only two primary options.
1. Wipe and reinstall Win7 RTM, update to Sp1 and reinstall all programs
2. Determine which is more waste...number (1) or downloading Win7 SP1 and repair Windows

 

[Mellowed]

"(e-mail address removed)" wrote in message

So is everyone happy to have to do a download of Win7 Pro SP1 rather
than using the original Win7 Pro disk and just D/L the various updates??

Seems a waste to me!!

If you need to repair a Win7 SP1 installation and only have a Win7 RTM
disk then you've only two primary options.
1. Wipe and reinstall Win7 RTM, update to Sp1 and reinstall all programs
2. Determine which is more waste...number (1) or downloading Win7 SP1
and repair Windows

It comes down to personal preference. It's so easy to download SP1, why
not do it and save the huge number of updates up to SP1. If the
download is a nuisance, you'll still get to the finish line using the
original disk.

 

[Ken1943]

It comes down to personal preference. It's so easy to download SP1, why
not do it and save the huge number of updates up to SP1. If the
download is a nuisance, you'll still get to the finish line using the
original disk.

This guy just wants an argument and not good advise.


KenW

 

[Bob H]

It comes down to personal preference. It's so easy to download SP1, why
not do it and save the huge number of updates up to SP1. If the
download is a nuisance, you'll still get to the finish line using the
original disk.

I downloaded sp1 for my win7 version and then integrated it with the
original copy, so that next time I have to do a repair or re install, I
have sp1 and updates installed at the same time.