Remove administrator from Welcome Screen

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by Mr doe, Nov 1, 2009.

  1. Mr doe

    Mr doe Guest

    I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself listed
    as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome screen
    without Administrator on it .

    Win 7 professional.
    Mr doe, Nov 1, 2009
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  2. Mr doe

    Dave-UK Guest

    "Mr doe" <> wrote in message news:...
    > I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself listed
    > as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome screen
    > without Administrator on it .
    >
    > Win 7 professional.


    Right-click Computer > Manage > Local Users and Groups > Users
    Double-click 'Administrator'
    Select 'Account is disabled'.
    Click 'Apply' , 'OK'.
    Reboot/log off

    If your account has no password then you should boot to your desktop.
    Dave-UK, Nov 1, 2009
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    Andy Guest

    "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in
    news::

    >
    > "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
    >> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a
    >> Welcome screen without Administrator on it .
    >>
    >> Win 7 professional.

    >
    > Right-click Computer > Manage > Local Users and Groups > Users
    > Double-click 'Administrator'
    > Select 'Account is disabled'.
    > Click 'Apply' , 'OK'.
    > Reboot/log off
    >
    > If your account has no password then you should boot to your desktop.



    Whoa!

    I don't entirely know what you mean but it sounds like some good magic
    worth saving!!!

    Thanks,

    Andy
    Andy, Nov 2, 2009
    #3
  4. Mr doe

    Gordon Guest

    "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself listed as
    > well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome screen
    > without Administrator on it .
    >
    > Win 7 professional.


    So how come the Administrator account is there in the first place? This
    account is disabled BY DEFAULT in both Vista and Windows 7.
    Something happened to make it appear. This /might/ be the action of malware
    or a virus.
    Gordon, Nov 2, 2009
    #4
  5. Mr doe

    Dave-UK Guest

    "Andy" <> wrote in message news:Xns9CB6C1A6FD353Cotd@216.196.97.131...
    > "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in
    > news::
    >
    >>
    >> "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
    >>> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a
    >>> Welcome screen without Administrator on it .
    >>>
    >>> Win 7 professional.

    >>
    >> Right-click Computer > Manage > Local Users and Groups > Users
    >> Double-click 'Administrator'
    >> Select 'Account is disabled'.
    >> Click 'Apply' , 'OK'.
    >> Reboot/log off
    >>
    >> If your account has no password then you should boot to your desktop.

    >
    >
    > Whoa!
    >
    > I don't entirely know what you mean but it sounds like some good magic
    > worth saving!!!
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Andy
    >
    >


    From a book I am currently reading:

    In Windows NT, 2000, and XP, there was an account named Administrator
    that was, by definition, a Computer Administrator account. You may have
    noticed that it's nowhere to be seen in Windows 7.
    Actually, it's still there, but hidden. There's a good reason for this.
    It's disabled by default and hidden on the Welcome screen and even in Safe Mode.
    And it requires no password to log on. This was done to provide a way to recover
    if you somehow manage to delete the last (other) Computer Administrator account
    from your computer. In this case, Windows will automatically enable the
    Administrator account so that you can log on (without having to remember a password)
    and re-create one or more Computer Administrator accounts, or turn a Standard User
    into an Administrator.
    (You would then immediately log off and use the restored regular account.)
    Dave-UK, Nov 2, 2009
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  6. Mr doe

    Gordon Guest

    "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > From a book I am currently reading:
    >
    > In Windows NT, 2000, and XP, there was an account named Administrator
    > that was, by definition, a Computer Administrator account. You may have
    > noticed that it's nowhere to be seen in Windows 7.
    > Actually, it's still there, but hidden. There's a good reason for this.
    > It's disabled by default and hidden on the Welcome screen and even in Safe
    > Mode. And it requires no password to log on. This was done to provide a
    > way to recover
    > if you somehow manage to delete the last (other) Computer Administrator
    > account
    > from your computer. In this case, Windows will automatically enable the
    > Administrator account so that you can log on (without having to remember a
    > password)
    > and re-create one or more Computer Administrator accounts, or turn a
    > Standard User
    > into an Administrator.
    > (You would then immediately log off and use the restored regular account.)
    >


    Correct - so my question to the OP (and still not answered) is, what did he
    (or someone or something else) do to enable the Administrator Account in the
    first place? If he did nothing, then it sounds like malware or a virus to
    me...
    Gordon, Nov 2, 2009
    #6
  7. Mr doe

    Dave-UK Guest

    "Gordon" <> wrote in message news:...
    >
    > "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>
    >> From a book I am currently reading:
    >>
    >> In Windows NT, 2000, and XP, there was an account named Administrator
    >> that was, by definition, a Computer Administrator account. You may have
    >> noticed that it's nowhere to be seen in Windows 7.
    >> Actually, it's still there, but hidden. There's a good reason for this.
    >> It's disabled by default and hidden on the Welcome screen and even in Safe
    >> Mode. And it requires no password to log on. This was done to provide a
    >> way to recover
    >> if you somehow manage to delete the last (other) Computer Administrator
    >> account
    >> from your computer. In this case, Windows will automatically enable the
    >> Administrator account so that you can log on (without having to remember a
    >> password)
    >> and re-create one or more Computer Administrator accounts, or turn a
    >> Standard User
    >> into an Administrator.
    >> (You would then immediately log off and use the restored regular account.)
    >>

    >
    > Correct - so my question to the OP (and still not answered) is, what did he
    > (or someone or something else) do to enable the Administrator Account in the
    > first place? If he did nothing, then it sounds like malware or a virus to
    > me...
    >


    If malware or a virus had managed to manipulate the hidden Administrator
    account in Vista\Win7 then I think it would be all over the web before now.
    Dave-UK, Nov 2, 2009
    #7
  8. Mr doe

    Gordon Guest

    "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > If malware or a virus had managed to manipulate the hidden Administrator
    > account in Vista\Win7 then I think it would be all over the web before
    > now.
    >


    Well something has happened - it's not overly straightforward to enable the
    built-in Administrator account either in Vista or Win 7...
    Gordon, Nov 2, 2009
    #8
  9. Mr doe

    Mr doe Guest

    Mr doe wrote:
    > Gordon wrote:
    >>
    >> "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
    >>> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome
    >>> screen without Administrator on it .
    >>>
    >>> Win 7 professional.

    >>
    >> So how come the Administrator account is there in the first place? This
    >> account is disabled BY DEFAULT in both Vista and Windows 7.
    >> Something happened to make it appear. This /might/ be the action of
    >> malware or a virus.

    > This is a New install.. NEWly formatted Drive . Windows 7 professional.
    > The Malware Has to be on Microsofts Win7 DVD if there were one...
    >
    > Same installation , But Now Both of my DVD burners ( NEW) have
    > disappeared from win 7... Bios Shows they are reconised . But win7 says
    > that the driver CDROM.SYS is Corrupted . And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let
    > me Replace CDROM.SYS Even tho I am the administrator .

    I created a Restore point last night before Bed time.

    I start up the computer this afternoon and The Optical Drives are not
    responding. Win7 Statem says that cdrom.sys is corrupted . Don't know
    how this could happeb when the power was shut off to the computer for 13
    hours .
    I did the restore point I made last night and BOTH OPTICAL drives are
    now working .
    Win 7 is a nightmare . I feel I should put the Win7 cd Thru my Cd
    Shreader and go back to Winxp

    Now I know Why There is No Microsoft window 7 newsgroups. The Donot
    want The Truth being told to prospective Buyers .
    Mr doe, Nov 2, 2009
    #9
  10. Mr doe

    Mr doe Guest

    Gordon wrote:
    >
    > "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
    >> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome
    >> screen without Administrator on it .
    >>
    >> Win 7 professional.

    >
    > So how come the Administrator account is there in the first place? This
    > account is disabled BY DEFAULT in both Vista and Windows 7.
    > Something happened to make it appear. This /might/ be the action of
    > malware or a virus.

    This is a New install.. NEWly formatted Drive . Windows 7 professional.
    The Malware Has to be on Microsofts Win7 DVD if there were one...

    Same installation , But Now Both of my DVD burners ( NEW) have
    disappeared from win 7... Bios Shows they are reconised . But win7 says
    that the driver CDROM.SYS is Corrupted . And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let
    me Replace CDROM.SYS Even tho I am the administrator .
    Mr doe, Nov 2, 2009
    #10
  11. Mr doe

    Dave-UK Guest

    "Mr doe" <> wrote in message news:...
    > Mr doe wrote:
    >> Gordon wrote:
    >>>
    >>> "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
    >>>> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome
    >>>> screen without Administrator on it .
    >>>>
    >>>> Win 7 professional.
    >>>
    >>> So how come the Administrator account is there in the first place? This
    >>> account is disabled BY DEFAULT in both Vista and Windows 7.
    >>> Something happened to make it appear. This /might/ be the action of
    >>> malware or a virus.

    >> This is a New install.. NEWly formatted Drive . Windows 7 professional.
    >> The Malware Has to be on Microsofts Win7 DVD if there were one...
    >>
    >> Same installation , But Now Both of my DVD burners ( NEW) have
    >> disappeared from win 7... Bios Shows they are reconised . But win7 says
    >> that the driver CDROM.SYS is Corrupted . And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let
    >> me Replace CDROM.SYS Even tho I am the administrator .

    > I created a Restore point last night before Bed time.
    >
    > I start up the computer this afternoon and The Optical Drives are not
    > responding. Win7 Statem says that cdrom.sys is corrupted . Don't know
    > how this could happeb when the power was shut off to the computer for 13
    > hours .
    > I did the restore point I made last night and BOTH OPTICAL drives are
    > now working .
    > Win 7 is a nightmare . I feel I should put the Win7 cd Thru my Cd
    > Shreader and go back to Winxp
    >
    > Now I know Why There is No Microsoft window 7 newsgroups. The Donot
    > want The Truth being told to prospective Buyers .


    But have you removed the Administrator's account from the welcome screen ?
    Dave-UK, Nov 2, 2009
    #11
  12. Mr doe

    Mr doe Guest

    Dave-UK wrote:
    >
    > "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Mr doe wrote:
    >>> Gordon wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:...
    >>>>> I am a administrator, The Welcome screen comes up and Has myself
    >>>>> listed as well as Administrator. I Want No Welcome Screen or a Welcome
    >>>>> screen without Administrator on it .
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Win 7 professional.
    >>>>
    >>>> So how come the Administrator account is there in the first place? This
    >>>> account is disabled BY DEFAULT in both Vista and Windows 7.
    >>>> Something happened to make it appear. This /might/ be the action of
    >>>> malware or a virus.
    >>> This is a New install.. NEWly formatted Drive . Windows 7 professional.
    >>> The Malware Has to be on Microsofts Win7 DVD if there were one...
    >>>
    >>> Same installation , But Now Both of my DVD burners ( NEW) have
    >>> disappeared from win 7... Bios Shows they are reconised . But win7 says
    >>> that the driver CDROM.SYS is Corrupted . And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let
    >>> me Replace CDROM.SYS Even tho I am the administrator .

    >> I created a Restore point last night before Bed time.
    >>
    >> I start up the computer this afternoon and The Optical Drives are not
    >> responding. Win7 Statem says that cdrom.sys is corrupted . Don't know
    >> how this could happeb when the power was shut off to the computer for
    >> 13 hours .
    >> I did the restore point I made last night and BOTH OPTICAL drives are
    >> now working .
    >> Win 7 is a nightmare . I feel I should put the Win7 cd Thru my Cd
    >> Shreader and go back to Winxp
    >>
    >> Now I know Why There is No Microsoft window 7 newsgroups. The Donot
    >> want The Truth being told to prospective Buyers .

    >
    > But have you removed the Administrator's account from the welcome screen ?
    >
    >
    >
    >

    Before .... I had to remove the administrator again after I did the Restore
    Mr doe, Nov 2, 2009
    #12
  13. Mr doe

    Gordon Guest

    "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS


    What is "trustinstaller"?
    Gordon, Nov 2, 2009
    #13
  14. Mr doe

    Mr doe Guest

    Gordon wrote:
    >
    > "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS

    >
    > What is "trustinstaller"?

    Go to windows/system32/drivers and just try to Delete or Rename
    Cdrom.sys and u will get the Trustinstaller Error .

    I did find the setting for trustinstaller Via Help and it has the same
    menu's similar to administration rights.. But it was Greek to me .
    Mr doe, Nov 2, 2009
    #14
  15. Mr doe

    Mr doe Guest

    Mr doe wrote:
    > Gordon wrote:
    >>
    >> "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS

    >>
    >> What is "trustinstaller"?

    > Go to windows/system32/drivers and just try to Delete or Rename
    > Cdrom.sys and u will get the Trustinstaller Error .
    >
    > I did find the setting for trustinstaller Via Help and it has the same
    > menu's similar to administration rights.. But it was Greek to me .

    here is an example .. but still looking over microsoft.com site for the
    site I mentioned

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/e041f288-5331-4fe3-a3f4-cfac2eb9f6d4/
    Mr doe, Nov 2, 2009
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  16. Mr doe

    Mr doe Guest

    Mr doe wrote:
    > Gordon wrote:
    >>
    >> "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS

    >>
    >> What is "trustinstaller"?

    > Go to windows/system32/drivers and just try to Delete or Rename
    > Cdrom.sys and u will get the Trustinstaller Error .
    >
    > I did find the setting for trustinstaller Via Help and it has the same
    > menu's similar to administration rights.. But it was Greek to me .

    http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?form=MSHOME&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=trustinstaller
    Mr doe, Nov 2, 2009
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  17. Mr doe

    Mr doe Guest

    Mr doe wrote:
    > Mr doe wrote:
    >> Gordon wrote:
    >>>
    >>> "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS
    >>>
    >>> What is "trustinstaller"?

    >> Go to windows/system32/drivers and just try to Delete or Rename
    >> Cdrom.sys and u will get the Trustinstaller Error .
    >>
    >> I did find the setting for trustinstaller Via Help and it has the same
    >> menu's similar to administration rights.. But it was Greek to me .

    > http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?form=MSHOME&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=trustinstaller
    >
    >

    right click on cdrom.sys Choose properties And ther trustinstaller has
    ownership of the file .
    Mr doe, Nov 2, 2009
    #17
  18. Mr doe

    Gordon Guest

    "Gordon" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS

    >


    And how are you trying to replace this file? Sounds to me like you're not
    doing it the right way.
    Gordon, Nov 3, 2009
    #18
  19. Mr doe

    Dave-UK Guest

    "Gordon" <> wrote in message news:...
    >
    > "Mr doe" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>> And TRUSTINSTALLER will not let me Replace CDROM.SYS

    >
    > What is "trustinstaller"?
    >


    It's TrustedInstaller.

    In the hierarchy of Vista\Win7 security TrustedInstaller is the top.
    The levels are something like:
    Guest
    User
    Administrators
    The Administrator
    System
    TrustedInstaller

    Most of the system files are owned by TrustedInstaller and you
    change permissions at your peril! You could easily crash the
    system. I think that's why the 'Take Ownership' option was
    removed from the right-click menu in the final Win7 release.
    Dave-UK, Nov 3, 2009
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  20. Mr doe

    Florida

    Joined:
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    I see this was partially answered.

    1. Log in as the user account
    2. In the search at the bottom left from start type in "cmd.exe" wo quotes, right click the application and "run as administrator".
    3. Type in "net user administrator /active:no" wo quotes and hit enter
    4. You should receive a successful notice.
    5. Type "exit"

    This worked for me.
    Florida, Nov 8, 2012
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