Read MS Win7 Forums in your newsreader

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by Mark Blain, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. Mark Blain

    Mark Blain Guest

    I just found out there is now a way to read the web-based microsoft forums
    for Windows 7 in your newsreader.

    The "Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge" program runs on your pc, and works as a
    proxy to download the forum names and messages so they show up in your
    newsreader as newsgroups.

    The program is still under development. I just started fooling with it.
    So far, I've noticed that your newsreader needs to support UTF-8 to read
    the message subjects, and must also support HTML since most of the message
    bodies seem to rely on it for proper line-wrap and formatting.

    More information:
    https://connect.microsoft.com/site/sitehome.aspx?SiteID=927
    <http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_
    thread/thread/8dacf0442b44dea8/5d82161e27afb7ba?#5d82161e27afb7ba>
    Mark Blain, Mar 24, 2010
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  2. On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:04:33 -0500, Mark Blain <>
    wrote:

    > I just found out there is now a way to read the web-based microsoft forums
    > for Windows 7 in your newsreader.
    >
    > The "Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge" program runs on your pc, and works as a
    > proxy to download the forum names and messages so they show up in your
    > newsreader as newsgroups.



    Yes, I've been using the NNTP bridge for quite a while. It works but
    just barely. It has lots of problems, which is why I haven't mentioned
    it to others here.

    I use it in preference to using the web-based forums, but I'm still
    very unhappy with all the problems and bugs it has.

    Still, I hope and look forward to the day when all those problems are
    behind it.


    > The program is still under development. I just started fooling with it.
    > So far, I've noticed that your newsreader needs to support UTF-8 to read
    > the message subjects, and must also support HTML since most of the message
    > bodies seem to rely on it for proper line-wrap and formatting.
    >
    > More information:
    > https://connect.microsoft.com/site/sitehome.aspx?SiteID=927
    > <http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_
    > thread/thread/8dacf0442b44dea8/5d82161e27afb7ba?#5d82161e27afb7ba>


    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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    Ken Blake, MVP, Mar 25, 2010
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  3. Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    > On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:04:33 -0500, Mark Blain <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> I just found out there is now a way to read the web-based microsoft
    >> forums for Windows 7 in your newsreader.
    >>
    >> The "Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge" program runs on your pc, and
    >> works as a proxy to download the forum names and messages so they
    >> show up in your newsreader as newsgroups.

    >
    >
    > Yes, I've been using the NNTP bridge for quite a while. It works but
    > just barely. It has lots of problems, which is why I haven't
    > mentioned it to others here.
    >
    > I use it in preference to using the web-based forums, but I'm still
    > very unhappy with all the problems and bugs it has.
    >
    > Still, I hope and look forward to the day when all those problems are
    > behind it.


    I really, really, really don't like web based forums. I wish Microsoft
    would go back to NNTP groups. They can exercise just as much control.
    The only thing they can't do is sell advertising....oh.

    --
    Crash

    "When you want to fool the world, tell the truth."
    ~ Otto von Bismarck ~
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Mar 25, 2010
    #3
  4. Mark Blain

    LouB Guest

    Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    > Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    >> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:04:33 -0500, Mark Blain <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> I just found out there is now a way to read the web-based microsoft
    >>> forums for Windows 7 in your newsreader.
    >>>
    >>> The "Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge" program runs on your pc, and
    >>> works as a proxy to download the forum names and messages so they
    >>> show up in your newsreader as newsgroups.

    >>
    >>
    >> Yes, I've been using the NNTP bridge for quite a while. It works but
    >> just barely. It has lots of problems, which is why I haven't
    >> mentioned it to others here.
    >>
    >> I use it in preference to using the web-based forums, but I'm still
    >> very unhappy with all the problems and bugs it has.
    >>
    >> Still, I hope and look forward to the day when all those problems are
    >> behind it.

    >
    > I really, really, really don't like web based forums. I wish Microsoft
    > would go back to NNTP groups. They can exercise just as much control.
    > The only thing they can't do is sell advertising....oh.
    >

    Sadly usenet is overrun with noise from a people with nothing useful to say.
    LouB, Mar 25, 2010
    #4
  5. LouB wrote:
    > Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    >>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:04:33 -0500, Mark Blain
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I just found out there is now a way to read the web-based
    >>>> microsoft forums for Windows 7 in your newsreader.
    >>>>
    >>>> The "Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge" program runs on your pc, and
    >>>> works as a proxy to download the forum names and messages so
    >>>> they show up in your newsreader as newsgroups.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Yes, I've been using the NNTP bridge for quite a while. It works
    >>> but just barely. It has lots of problems, which is why I haven't
    >>> mentioned it to others here.
    >>>
    >>> I use it in preference to using the web-based forums, but I'm
    >>> still very unhappy with all the problems and bugs it has.
    >>>
    >>> Still, I hope and look forward to the day when all those problems
    >>> are behind it.

    >>
    >> I really, really, really don't like web based forums. I wish
    >> Microsoft would go back to NNTP groups. They can exercise just as
    >> much control. The only thing they can't do is sell
    >> advertising....oh.
    >>

    > Sadly usenet is overrun with noise from a people with nothing useful
    > to say.


    No argument, but Microsoft has its own NNTP server (news.microsoft.com).
    It doesn't need Usenet to host its newsgroups.

    --
    Crash

    "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
    ~ Samuel Johnson ~
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Mar 25, 2010
    #5
  6. Mark Blain

    SC Tom Guest

    "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <> wrote in message
    news:qFIqn.18828$...
    > LouB wrote:
    >> Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    >>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:04:33 -0500, Mark Blain <>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> I just found out there is now a way to read the web-based microsoft
    >>>>> forums for Windows 7 in your newsreader.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The "Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge" program runs on your pc, and
    >>>>> works as a proxy to download the forum names and messages so they
    >>>>> show up in your newsreader as newsgroups.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes, I've been using the NNTP bridge for quite a while. It works but
    >>>> just barely. It has lots of problems, which is why I haven't
    >>>> mentioned it to others here.
    >>>>
    >>>> I use it in preference to using the web-based forums, but I'm still
    >>>> very unhappy with all the problems and bugs it has.
    >>>>
    >>>> Still, I hope and look forward to the day when all those problems
    >>>> are behind it.
    >>>
    >>> I really, really, really don't like web based forums. I wish Microsoft
    >>> would go back to NNTP groups. They can exercise just as much control.
    >>> The only thing they can't do is sell advertising....oh.
    >>>

    >> Sadly usenet is overrun with noise from a people with nothing useful to
    >> say.

    >
    > No argument, but Microsoft has its own NNTP server (news.microsoft.com).
    > It doesn't need Usenet to host its newsgroups.
    >
    > --
    > Crash
    >
    > "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
    > ~ Samuel Johnson ~


    Unfortunately there are no Windows 7 newsgroups there, just the forums.
    Can't get there in Live Mail or OE without the NNTP bridge, and I'm not
    crazy about it.
    --
    SC Tom
    SC Tom, Mar 25, 2010
    #6
  7. Mark Blain

    LouB Guest

    Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    > LouB wrote:
    >> Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    >>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:04:33 -0500, Mark Blain <>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> I just found out there is now a way to read the web-based microsoft
    >>>>> forums for Windows 7 in your newsreader.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The "Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge" program runs on your pc, and
    >>>>> works as a proxy to download the forum names and messages so they
    >>>>> show up in your newsreader as newsgroups.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes, I've been using the NNTP bridge for quite a while. It works but
    >>>> just barely. It has lots of problems, which is why I haven't
    >>>> mentioned it to others here.
    >>>>
    >>>> I use it in preference to using the web-based forums, but I'm still
    >>>> very unhappy with all the problems and bugs it has.
    >>>>
    >>>> Still, I hope and look forward to the day when all those problems
    >>>> are behind it.
    >>>
    >>> I really, really, really don't like web based forums. I wish
    >>> Microsoft would go back to NNTP groups. They can exercise just as
    >>> much control. The only thing they can't do is sell advertising....oh.
    >>>

    >> Sadly usenet is overrun with noise from a people with nothing useful
    >> to say.

    >
    > No argument, but Microsoft has its own NNTP server (news.microsoft.com).
    > It doesn't need Usenet to host its newsgroups.
    >

    Yabut unless all the newsgroups are moderated you get the "noise".
    I guess forums are easier to control
    LouB, Mar 25, 2010
    #7
  8. Mark Blain

    Tom Lake Guest


    > Unfortunately there are no Windows 7 newsgroups there, just the forums.
    > Can't get there in Live Mail or OE without the NNTP bridge, and I'm not crazy about it.


    Does your ISP have a news server? It seems like not many do these days.
    If so try that one, if not, try one of the free ones. I use albasani.net (you need to get
    a free user name and password first) but many people like other ones, too.

    Tom Lake
    Tom Lake, Mar 25, 2010
    #8
  9. Mark Blain

    SC Tom Guest

    "Tom Lake" <> wrote in message
    news:hog63j$lue$...
    >
    >> Unfortunately there are no Windows 7 newsgroups there, just the forums.
    >> Can't get there in Live Mail or OE without the NNTP bridge, and I'm not
    >> crazy about it.

    >
    > Does your ISP have a news server? It seems like not many do these days.
    > If so try that one, if not, try one of the free ones. I use albasani.net
    > (you need to get
    > a free user name and password first) but many people like other ones, too.
    >
    > Tom Lake


    Yes, it has a news server, and carries this newsgroup which I access through
    OE and/or LM, depending on which PC I'm on. But news.microsoft.com has no
    Windows 7 newsgroups.
    --
    SC Tom
    SC Tom, Mar 25, 2010
    #9
  10. Mark Blain

    Mr doe Guest

    SC Tom wrote:
    >
    > "Tom Lake" <> wrote in message
    > news:hog63j$lue$...
    >>
    >>> Unfortunately there are no Windows 7 newsgroups there, just the forums.
    >>> Can't get there in Live Mail or OE without the NNTP bridge, and I'm
    >>> not crazy about it.

    >>
    >> Does your ISP have a news server? It seems like not many do these days.
    >> If so try that one, if not, try one of the free ones. I use
    >> albasani.net (you need to get
    >> a free user name and password first) but many people like other ones,
    >> too.
    >>
    >> Tom Lake

    >
    > Yes, it has a news server, and carries this newsgroup which I access
    > through OE and/or LM, depending on which PC I'm on. But
    > news.microsoft.com has no Windows 7 newsgroups.


    You got that correct. MS want to make it hard for u to read problems
    with win 7... They only have a WEB BASED newsgroup.
    Mr doe, Mar 25, 2010
    #10
  11. Mark Blain

    Zootal Guest

    > Yabut unless all the newsgroups are moderated you get the "noise".
    > I guess forums are easier to control
    >


    That is exactly it. Microsoft and Windows in general is all about control.
    Microsoft polices their own usenet servers (msnews.microsoft.com), and will
    remove messages they don't want. The problem with that is that their
    newsgroups are propagated to other usenet servers, and the messages
    Microsoft removes from their servers do not get removed from the others. So
    you look for messages on msnews.microsoft.com and don't find them, you load
    the same newsgroup in some other server, say giganews or even google, and
    you see them. Microsoft does not like that - they want absolute control
    over what people see in their newsgroups, and if you use some other server
    to view their newsgroups, you see messages Microsoft doesn't want you to
    see.

    Easy solution - get rid of the newsgroups, and move to forums that they
    have absolute control over.
    Zootal, Mar 25, 2010
    #11
  12. Mark Blain

    milt Guest

    On 3/24/2010 6:04 PM, Mark Blain wrote:
    > I just found out there is now a way to read the web-based microsoft forums
    > for Windows 7 in your newsreader.
    >


    Yeah, you can do it but damn its not worth it, too much garbage, not
    enough useful info.
    milt, Mar 25, 2010
    #12
  13. Mark Blain

    milt Guest

    On 3/25/2010 2:30 PM, Zootal wrote:
    >
    > Easy solution - get rid of the newsgroups, and move to forums that they
    > have absolute control over.


    Actually, I think it has less to do with control and more to do with the
    fact it actually takes functioning braincells to access newsgroups and
    any schmuck can access a forum. Unfortunately, most of the people using
    Windows tend to be well, not all that computer-smart as can be seen by
    the posts in that forum. Tons of really bad questions, repeated over and
    over because no one can be bothered to look past the first couple pages
    (or even first page) of posts to see if anyone else has the same
    problem/question (and many do). Most of the questions that people that
    can access these forums would have, would be far beyond the abilities of
    most of the people in those forums.
    milt, Mar 25, 2010
    #13
  14. Mark Blain

    LD55ZRA Guest

    milt wrote:
    >


    > Unfortunately, most of the people using
    > Windows tend to be well, not all that computer-smart as can be seen by
    > the posts in that forum. Tons of really bad questions, repeated over and
    > over because no one can be bothered to look past the first couple pages
    > (or even first page) of posts to see if anyone else has the same
    > problem/question (and many do). Most of the questions that people that
    > can access these forums would have, would be far beyond the abilities of
    > most of the people in those forums.


    They are all like Frank who has been diagnosed with severe strain of
    dead cells in his brain. He is in the first stage of dementia and very
    likely be the first person to benefit from Obama's medicare plan!!!

    --

    LVTravel <> is a convicted paedophilia from Johnstown, USA
    and has been outed under Megan's Law. Please report him to your local
    authorities if you see him near your kids.
    LD55ZRA, Mar 25, 2010
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  15. On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:14:18 -0500, milt
    <> wrote:

    > On 3/24/2010 6:04 PM, Mark Blain wrote:
    > > I just found out there is now a way to read the web-based microsoft forums
    > > for Windows 7 in your newsreader.
    > >

    >
    > Yeah, you can do it but damn its not worth it, too much garbage, not
    > enough useful info.




    I don't agree. I use the Microsoft NNTP Bridge to access the Microsoft
    Windows 7 forums. The bridge isn't perfect, but it's getting better
    with each release, and as far as I'm concerned it's much faster and
    better than accessing them on the web.


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    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
    Ken Blake, MVP, Mar 26, 2010
    #15
  16. Mark Blain wrote:
    > I just found out there is now a way to read the web-based microsoft
    > forums for Windows 7 in your newsreader.
    >
    > The "Microsoft Forums NNTP Bridge" program runs on your pc, and works
    > as a proxy to download the forum names and messages so they show up
    > in your newsreader as newsgroups.
    >
    > The program is still under development. I just started fooling with
    > it. So far, I've noticed that your newsreader needs to support UTF-8
    > to read the message subjects, and must also support HTML since most
    > of the message bodies seem to rely on it for proper line-wrap and
    > formatting.
    >
    > More information:
    > https://connect.microsoft.com/site/sitehome.aspx?SiteID=927
    > <http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_
    > thread/thread/8dacf0442b44dea8/5d82161e27afb7ba?#5d82161e27afb7ba>


    Jeez! I tried to install it and set it up and decided it is more trouble
    than it is worth. I can't even download it without installing special
    download software.

    --
    Crash

    Life is short. Eat dessert first.
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Mar 26, 2010
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