New folder error

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Nov 12, 2011.

  1. This is more an annoyance than a problem.

    In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select "New>Folder," a
    new folder is created and the name "New folder" is highlighted. If I
    leave it at that and remove the focus, all is fine, and I have a folder
    with the name "New folder," which I can rename as I please. However, if
    I try to rename the folder during the creation process, while the name
    "New folder" is highlighted, I get an error:

    ------------- Item Not Found ----------
    Could not find this item
    This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's location and
    try again.

    New folder
    Date created: [time/date]

    buttons:Try again-Cancel
    --------------------------------------------

    which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.

    I don't think this has always been this way. An update or something I
    installed is causing this. Does anybody else experience this?
    --
    Crash

    I always thought Mensa was a Japanese import.
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Nov 12, 2011
    #1
  2. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Ed Cryer Guest

    On 12/11/2011 14:16, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    > This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >
    > In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select "New>Folder," a
    > new folder is created and the name "New folder" is highlighted. If I
    > leave it at that and remove the focus, all is fine, and I have a folder
    > with the name "New folder," which I can rename as I please. However, if
    > I try to rename the folder during the creation process, while the name
    > "New folder" is highlighted, I get an error:
    >
    > ------------- Item Not Found ----------
    > Could not find this item
    > This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's location and
    > try again.
    >
    > New folder
    > Date created: [time/date]
    >
    > buttons:Try again-Cancel
    > --------------------------------------------
    >
    > which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    > function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >
    > I don't think this has always been this way. An update or something I
    > installed is causing this. Does anybody else experience this?


    That would do more than annoy me, it would positively raise the hackles
    on my scalp. Very weird, and symptomatic of quite a fundamental system
    problem.

    I can't reproduce it here on my Win7 HP 64-bit, and I have all the
    latest Win updates installed.

    If it were me I'd try it in different folders to try and get some
    insight into it.
    Questions that occur;
    1. Does it always report the correct folder?
    2. Does it always work on retry?
    3. Are other contextual commands compromised?

    Ed
    Ed Cryer, Nov 12, 2011
    #2
  3. Ed Cryer wrote:
    <snipped>

    >> I don't think this has always been this way. An update or something I
    >> installed is causing this. Does anybody else experience this?

    >
    > That would do more than annoy me, it would positively raise the hackles
    > on my scalp. Very weird, and symptomatic of quite a fundamental system
    > problem.
    >
    > I can't reproduce it here on my Win7 HP 64-bit, and I have all the
    > latest Win updates installed.
    >
    > If it were me I'd try it in different folders to try and get some
    > insight into it.
    > Questions that occur;
    > 1. Does it always report the correct folder?
    > 2. Does it always work on retry?
    > 3. Are other contextual commands compromised?


    Yes, yes, no.
    --
    Crash

    "When you get to a fork in the road, take it."
    ~ Yogi Berra ~
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Nov 12, 2011
    #3
  4. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Char Jackson Guest

    On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:16:41 -0500, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    <> wrote:

    >This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >
    >In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select "New>Folder," a
    >new folder is created and the name "New folder" is highlighted. If I
    >leave it at that and remove the focus, all is fine, and I have a folder
    >with the name "New folder," which I can rename as I please. However, if
    >I try to rename the folder during the creation process, while the name
    >"New folder" is highlighted, I get an error:
    >
    >------------- Item Not Found ----------
    >Could not find this item
    >This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's location and
    >try again.
    >
    >New folder
    >Date created: [time/date]
    >
    >buttons:Try again-Cancel
    >--------------------------------------------
    >
    >which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    >function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >
    >I don't think this has always been this way. An update or something I
    >installed is causing this. Does anybody else experience this?


    I've seen that behavior. For me, it began immediately after I used a
    Registry hack to disable Libraries, along with a few other similar
    behaviors such as File Not Found (Try Again always worked the second
    time) when trying to copy or move one or more files.

    In my case, the fix was simple: undo the Registry hack. Now the
    Libraries are back and the weird behavior is gone.

    If yours is like mine, though, the weird behavior is harmless, other
    than being annoying.

    --

    Char Jackson
    Char Jackson, Nov 12, 2011
    #4
  5. Char Jackson wrote:
    > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:16:41 -0500, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >>
    >> In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select
    >> "New>Folder," a new folder is created and the name "New folder" is
    >> highlighted. If I leave it at that and remove the focus, all is
    >> fine, and I have a folder with the name "New folder," which I can
    >> rename as I please. However, if I try to rename the folder during
    >> the creation process, while the name "New folder" is highlighted, I
    >> get an error:
    >>
    >> ------------- Item Not Found ---------- Could not find this item
    >> This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's location
    >> and try again.
    >>
    >> New folder Date created: [time/date]
    >>
    >> buttons:Try again-Cancel
    >> --------------------------------------------
    >>
    >> which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    >> function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >>
    >> I don't think this has always been this way. An update or something
    >> I installed is causing this. Does anybody else experience this?

    >
    > I've seen that behavior. For me, it began immediately after I used a
    > Registry hack to disable Libraries, along with a few other similar
    > behaviors such as File Not Found (Try Again always worked the second
    > time) when trying to copy or move one or more files.
    >
    > In my case, the fix was simple: undo the Registry hack. Now the
    > Libraries are back and the weird behavior is gone.
    >
    > If yours is like mine, though, the weird behavior is harmless, other
    > than being annoying.


    Thank you. That makes sense, since the libraries goof up file locations.
    I also disposed of the libraries. I'd rather be annoyed than put the
    libraries back.
    --
    Crash

    Committed to the search for intraterrestrial intelligence.
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Nov 12, 2011
    #5
  6. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Char Jackson Guest

    On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:10:16 -0500, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    <> wrote:

    >Char Jackson wrote:
    >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:16:41 -0500, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >>>
    >>> In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select
    >>> "New>Folder," a new folder is created and the name "New folder" is
    >>> highlighted. If I leave it at that and remove the focus, all is
    >>> fine, and I have a folder with the name "New folder," which I can
    >>> rename as I please. However, if I try to rename the folder during
    >>> the creation process, while the name "New folder" is highlighted, I
    >>> get an error:
    >>>
    >>> ------------- Item Not Found ---------- Could not find this item
    >>> This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's location
    >>> and try again.
    >>>
    >>> New folder Date created: [time/date]
    >>>
    >>> buttons:Try again-Cancel
    >>> --------------------------------------------
    >>>
    >>> which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    >>> function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >>>
    >>> I don't think this has always been this way. An update or something
    >>> I installed is causing this. Does anybody else experience this?

    >>
    >> I've seen that behavior. For me, it began immediately after I used a
    >> Registry hack to disable Libraries, along with a few other similar
    >> behaviors such as File Not Found (Try Again always worked the second
    >> time) when trying to copy or move one or more files.
    >>
    >> In my case, the fix was simple: undo the Registry hack. Now the
    >> Libraries are back and the weird behavior is gone.
    >>
    >> If yours is like mine, though, the weird behavior is harmless, other
    >> than being annoying.

    >
    >Thank you. That makes sense, since the libraries goof up file locations.
    >I also disposed of the libraries. I'd rather be annoyed than put the
    >libraries back.


    I remember internally visualizing it as the file operation code
    jumping to a block of code that determines whether you're working with
    a Library entry or not, and it fails if the Library is disabled. Try
    Again seems to bypass the Libraries hook and go directly to the file
    operation code. Harder to explain properly than to visualize.

    --

    Char Jackson
    Char Jackson, Nov 12, 2011
    #6
  7. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Bob Henson Guest

    Ed Cryer wrote:

    > On 12/11/2011 14:16, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >> This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >>
    >> In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select "New>Folder," a
    >> new folder is created and the name "New folder" is highlighted. If I
    >> leave it at that and remove the focus, all is fine, and I have a folder
    >> with the name "New folder," which I can rename as I please. However, if
    >> I try to rename the folder during the creation process, while the name
    >> "New folder" is highlighted, I get an error:
    >>
    >> ------------- Item Not Found ----------
    >> Could not find this item
    >> This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's location and
    >> try again.
    >>
    >> New folder
    >> Date created: [time/date]
    >>
    >> buttons:Try again-Cancel
    >> --------------------------------------------
    >>
    >> which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    >> function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >>
    >> I don't think this has always been this way. An update or something I
    >> installed is causing this. Does anybody else experience this?

    >
    > That would do more than annoy me, it would positively raise the hackles
    > on my scalp. Very weird, and symptomatic of quite a fundamental system
    > problem.
    >
    > I can't reproduce it here on my Win7 HP 64-bit, and I have all the
    > latest Win updates installed.
    >
    > If it were me I'd try it in different folders to try and get some
    > insight into it.
    > Questions that occur;
    > 1. Does it always report the correct folder?
    > 2. Does it always work on retry?
    > 3. Are other contextual commands compromised?
    >
    > Ed


    Mine is Windows 7 HP 64 bit (fully updated) and I have exactly the same
    problem. My answers would be the same - Yes, Yes, and No. I've never
    bothered asking about it, but it is a nuisance.

    --
    Bob
    Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

    Every time I hear the dirty word 'exercise', I wash my mouth out with
    chocolate.
    Bob Henson, Nov 12, 2011
    #7
  8. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Bob Henson Guest

    Char Jackson wrote:

    > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:16:41 -0500, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >>
    >>In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select "New>Folder," a
    >>new folder is created and the name "New folder" is highlighted. If I
    >>leave it at that and remove the focus, all is fine, and I have a folder
    >>with the name "New folder," which I can rename as I please. However, if
    >>I try to rename the folder during the creation process, while the name
    >>"New folder" is highlighted, I get an error:
    >>
    >>------------- Item Not Found ----------
    >>Could not find this item
    >>This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's location and
    >>try again.
    >>
    >>New folder
    >>Date created: [time/date]
    >>
    >>buttons:Try again-Cancel
    >>--------------------------------------------
    >>
    >>which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    >>function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >>
    >>I don't think this has always been this way. An update or something I
    >>installed is causing this. Does anybody else experience this?

    >
    > I've seen that behavior. For me, it began immediately after I used a
    > Registry hack to disable Libraries, along with a few other similar
    > behaviors such as File Not Found (Try Again always worked the second
    > time) when trying to copy or move one or more files.
    >
    > In my case, the fix was simple: undo the Registry hack. Now the
    > Libraries are back and the weird behavior is gone.
    >
    > If yours is like mine, though, the weird behavior is harmless, other
    > than being annoying.


    That explains it - I hacked the libraries too. I'll manage with the weird
    behaviour, I loath and detest the libraries.

    --
    Bob
    Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

    Work is the curse of the drinking classes.
    Bob Henson, Nov 12, 2011
    #8
  9. Bob Henson wrote:
    > Char Jackson wrote:
    >
    >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:16:41 -0500, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >>>
    >>> In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select
    >>> "New>Folder," a new folder is created and the name "New folder"
    >>> is highlighted. If I leave it at that and remove the focus, all
    >>> is fine, and I have a folder with the name "New folder," which I
    >>> can rename as I please. However, if I try to rename the folder
    >>> during the creation process, while the name "New folder" is
    >>> highlighted, I get an error:
    >>>
    >>> ------------- Item Not Found ---------- Could not find this item
    >>> This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's
    >>> location and try again.
    >>>
    >>> New folder Date created: [time/date]
    >>>
    >>> buttons:Try again-Cancel
    >>> --------------------------------------------
    >>>
    >>> which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    >>> function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >>>
    >>> I don't think this has always been this way. An update or
    >>> something I installed is causing this. Does anybody else
    >>> experience this?

    >> I've seen that behavior. For me, it began immediately after I used
    >> a Registry hack to disable Libraries, along with a few other
    >> similar behaviors such as File Not Found (Try Again always worked
    >> the second time) when trying to copy or move one or more files.
    >>
    >> In my case, the fix was simple: undo the Registry hack. Now the
    >> Libraries are back and the weird behavior is gone.
    >>
    >> If yours is like mine, though, the weird behavior is harmless,
    >> other than being annoying.

    >
    > That explains it - I hacked the libraries too. I'll manage with the
    > weird behaviour, I loath and detest the libraries.


    It really isn't that big a deal. The "Try again" option is the default,
    so all you really need to do is hit "Enter" twice instead of once. I
    just wanted assurance that I wasn't invaded by aliens or on the
    verge of a major crash.

    --
    Crash

    "The future ain't what it used to be."
    ~ Yogi Berra ~
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Nov 12, 2011
    #9
  10. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Ed Cryer Guest

    On 12/11/2011 16:50, Bob Henson wrote:
    > Ed Cryer wrote:
    >
    >> On 12/11/2011 14:16, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>> This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >>>
    >>> In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select "New>Folder," a
    >>> new folder is created and the name "New folder" is highlighted. If I
    >>> leave it at that and remove the focus, all is fine, and I have a folder
    >>> with the name "New folder," which I can rename as I please. However, if
    >>> I try to rename the folder during the creation process, while the name
    >>> "New folder" is highlighted, I get an error:
    >>>
    >>> ------------- Item Not Found ----------
    >>> Could not find this item
    >>> This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's location and
    >>> try again.
    >>>
    >>> New folder
    >>> Date created: [time/date]
    >>>
    >>> buttons:Try again-Cancel
    >>> --------------------------------------------
    >>>
    >>> which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    >>> function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >>>
    >>> I don't think this has always been this way. An update or something I
    >>> installed is causing this. Does anybody else experience this?

    >>
    >> That would do more than annoy me, it would positively raise the hackles
    >> on my scalp. Very weird, and symptomatic of quite a fundamental system
    >> problem.
    >>
    >> I can't reproduce it here on my Win7 HP 64-bit, and I have all the
    >> latest Win updates installed.
    >>
    >> If it were me I'd try it in different folders to try and get some
    >> insight into it.
    >> Questions that occur;
    >> 1. Does it always report the correct folder?
    >> 2. Does it always work on retry?
    >> 3. Are other contextual commands compromised?
    >>
    >> Ed

    >
    > Mine is Windows 7 HP 64 bit (fully updated) and I have exactly the same
    > problem. My answers would be the same - Yes, Yes, and No. I've never
    > bothered asking about it, but it is a nuisance.
    >


    I take it that you've disabled libraries as has Crash; and that's the
    reason for it. If not, then we have something else to investigate.

    Ed
    Ed Cryer, Nov 12, 2011
    #10
  11. On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:04:40 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:

    > Bob Henson wrote:
    >> Char Jackson wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:16:41 -0500, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >>>>
    >>>> In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select
    >>>> "New>Folder," a new folder is created and the name "New folder"
    >>>> is highlighted. If I leave it at that and remove the focus, all
    >>>> is fine, and I have a folder with the name "New folder," which I
    >>>> can rename as I please. However, if I try to rename the folder
    >>>> during the creation process, while the name "New folder" is
    >>>> highlighted, I get an error:
    >>>>
    >>>> ------------- Item Not Found ---------- Could not find this item
    >>>> This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's
    >>>> location and try again.
    >>>>
    >>>> New folder Date created: [time/date]
    >>>>
    >>>> buttons:Try again-Cancel
    >>>> --------------------------------------------
    >>>>
    >>>> which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    >>>> function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >>>>
    >>>> I don't think this has always been this way. An update or
    >>>> something I installed is causing this. Does anybody else
    >>>> experience this?
    >>> I've seen that behavior. For me, it began immediately after I used
    >>> a Registry hack to disable Libraries, along with a few other
    >>> similar behaviors such as File Not Found (Try Again always worked
    >>> the second time) when trying to copy or move one or more files.
    >>>
    >>> In my case, the fix was simple: undo the Registry hack. Now the
    >>> Libraries are back and the weird behavior is gone.
    >>>
    >>> If yours is like mine, though, the weird behavior is harmless,
    >>> other than being annoying.

    >>
    >> That explains it - I hacked the libraries too. I'll manage with the
    >> weird behaviour, I loath and detest the libraries.

    >
    > It really isn't that big a deal. The "Try again" option is the default,
    > so all you really need to do is hit "Enter" twice instead of once. I
    > just wanted assurance that I wasn't invaded by aliens or on the
    > verge of a major crash.


    But we haven't got any real proof about the aliens :)

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
    Gene E. Bloch, Nov 12, 2011
    #11
  12. Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:04:40 -0500, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >
    >> Bob Henson wrote:
    >>> Char Jackson wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:16:41 -0500, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select
    >>>>> "New>Folder," a new folder is created and the name "New folder"
    >>>>> is highlighted. If I leave it at that and remove the focus, all
    >>>>> is fine, and I have a folder with the name "New folder," which I
    >>>>> can rename as I please. However, if I try to rename the folder
    >>>>> during the creation process, while the name "New folder" is
    >>>>> highlighted, I get an error:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ------------- Item Not Found ---------- Could not find this item
    >>>>> This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's
    >>>>> location and try again.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> New folder Date created: [time/date]
    >>>>>
    >>>>> buttons:Try again-Cancel
    >>>>> --------------------------------------------
    >>>>>
    >>>>> which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    >>>>> function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I don't think this has always been this way. An update or
    >>>>> something I installed is causing this. Does anybody else
    >>>>> experience this?
    >>>> I've seen that behavior. For me, it began immediately after I used
    >>>> a Registry hack to disable Libraries, along with a few other
    >>>> similar behaviors such as File Not Found (Try Again always worked
    >>>> the second time) when trying to copy or move one or more files.
    >>>>
    >>>> In my case, the fix was simple: undo the Registry hack. Now the
    >>>> Libraries are back and the weird behavior is gone.
    >>>>
    >>>> If yours is like mine, though, the weird behavior is harmless,
    >>>> other than being annoying.
    >>> That explains it - I hacked the libraries too. I'll manage with the
    >>> weird behaviour, I loath and detest the libraries.

    >> It really isn't that big a deal. The "Try again" option is the default,
    >> so all you really need to do is hit "Enter" twice instead of once. I
    >> just wanted assurance that I wasn't invaded by aliens or on the
    >> verge of a major crash.

    >
    > But we haven't got any real proof about the aliens :)


    That's true, but they seem to be friendly aliens.

    --
    Crash

    Morals allow vicious predators to live in large herds.
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Nov 12, 2011
    #12
  13. I've run into this problem extensively.

    I've come to blame Windows Search. With Windows Search service enabled, the
    updating of the index causes a slowdown. Even though you see the folder,
    it's not quite there yet because the indexing has slowed the update of the
    MFT. You're trying to rename a directory that Windows doesn't know exists
    yet, though you see it, hence the error.

    I have not invoked the Disable-Libraries hack. I've had this happen on fast
    and slow systems.

    "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <> wrote in message
    news:j9lv4a$mhp$...
    > This is more an annoyance than a problem.
    >
    > In Windows 7, if I right click in a directory and select "New>Folder," a
    > new folder is created and the name "New folder" is highlighted. If I
    > leave it at that and remove the focus, all is fine, and I have a folder
    > with the name "New folder," which I can rename as I please. However, if
    > I try to rename the folder during the creation process, while the name
    > "New folder" is highlighted, I get an error:
    >
    > ------------- Item Not Found ----------
    > Could not find this item
    > This is not located in [d:\directory]. Verify the item's location and
    > try again.
    >
    > New folder
    > Date created: [time/date]
    >
    > buttons:Try again-Cancel
    > --------------------------------------------
    >
    > which actually makes sense. If I hit the "Try again" button, the
    > function proceeds and the folder is created with my new name.
    >
    > I don't think this has always been this way. An update or something I
    > installed is causing this. Does anybody else experience this?
    > --
    > Crash
    >
    > I always thought Mensa was a Japanese import.
    >
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