Microsoft Announces Cloud-based Office 365

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  1. Kalario

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    Fire cat Established Member VIP Member

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    My opinion: Microsoft will win.

    People will go towards Windows Live Office or whatever it will be called, because, hey, if you have Microsoft Office, you might as well use the simple (probably inbuilt) cloud version.

    I've been a user of google for a few years, and it really isn't that good, other than for a search engine, and what comes of it (AdSense, Analytics, etc...). They're trying to take over the internet.

    Not only that, but Microsoft is much more advanced to make the link between the computer and the cloud. They designed it, so they know what to do, and how to give all the features needed.

    Edit: I bothered to click on the link. So, it'll be called Office 365?
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    You didn't have to click on the link. The thread title says it :)
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    Fire cat Established Member VIP Member

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    Oh my god, I really am distracted today...
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    catilley1092 Win 7/Linux Mint Lover VIP Member

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    I believe that MS will win, too. They have Google beat in every department, except the internet search engines. But Bing is moving up the charts, too. It could only come at Google's expense.

    But the cloud based Office, or any Cloud based products, I'm a little leery of. Most likely, I'm using some of them unknowingly, but I'd prefer to stay on the ground myself.:D

    Cat
    catilley1092, Oct 21, 2010
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    Core all ball, no chain Moderator

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    Is it possible to have a discussion about a Microsoft product on this forum without it degenerating into a Google bashing thread? Just saying, it seems like every day someone has to remark how they refuse to use Google services because of {enter reason of choice}.

    It's exhausting. I live next to two churches; I see enough of this paranoid hoo-haa offline.
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    Fire cat Established Member VIP Member

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    You are soooo right Core.

    But hey, who doesn't like finding faults at Google? I mean, they were getting wireless data with their Google Earth street view van or something, and now we find ever more negative things about them.

    I suggest we never say the word google on this forum ever again, except when giving help to a member. Eg: Search google a bit, they have some good links. :p
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    Sorry if the Google fans get irate here, because their blind allegiance to oppressive information control is challenged.

    All aboard the "I Love Google" train - first stop .. fingerprinting. Then, off to the biometric iris scans for your global IDs.
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    :lol: +1

    I feel a flame war is going to start... STOP :eek:
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    Fire cat Established Member VIP Member

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    I was in no way critizising you.

    Anyway, as you said, end of debate.
    Back on subject, this really will be a battle. Where will people go? Google, with their long living, free, products, or Microsoft, the people who made it all in the first place, with intergration with you already use?
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    As I understand things, the topic, as described in the OP, is M$ Office vs Google Docs. While there are many Google users around, as evidenced by the users of their search engine, Chrome, their photo app and version of an Office package, this does not mean that everyone uses their products, and that's the user's right.

    And everyone has the right to their opinion, as long as it's not violating the rules of the forum. When a product is brought up in a topic, it's fair game to criticism, good & bad. For whatever reason(s), the mention of the word Google just gets some people fired up, and then the war begins.

    Seems that it's almost a federal crime to criticize Google, who seems to make their own rules, participating in spying on users and handing over evidence to land it's very own users in Chinese prisons, planting whatever cookies they wish on our computers, and generally just doing whatever the hell they want to do.

    Oppression has never accomplished anything good, and placing Google on the list of protection of public criticism will only serve to further enrage it's increasing list of non-users.

    Freedom of speech is a basic American right, one that I hope is never taken away, and that right did not create an exemption for Google.

    Cat
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    TrainableMan ^ The World's First ^ Moderator

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    "Train" will not get onboard :p

    Believe in what makes the most sense to you. Blind faith in any one direction is "narrow-sighted" to say the least. Use what works for you until it no longer works and then fix it or get onboard a new ship and set sail.
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    Here's the link that I posted, which I took down a little while ago, after one of the members here (and staunch supporter) voiced their discontent and equated my opinion about Google as being nothing more than "paranoid hoo-haa", similar to what they've seen from their local churches.
    Gookie


    • The ID number is your very own. Either write it on your forehead, or delete your Google cookie so that they have to give you a new one.

      You may have some preferences set between this ID and the TM.

      TM=1184620070 means 2007-07-16 21:07:50 GMT -- the time when you first got this cookie.

      LM=1184620070 means 2007-07-16 21:07:50 GMT -- the last time you set some preferences.

      We believe the S= is a checksum to insure data integrity.
    The CIA had to stop using a comparatively innocent log-analysis cookie that expired in 10 years, and their document search site isn't even used by many people. Google handles a billion searches per day, and their cookie expired in 2038. They don't even feel the need to defend their cookie policy; they merely laugh off anyone who inquires about it.

    A cult of geeky blogging Google pundits joins in, and ridicules the notion that you'll be using the same computer in 2038. That's not the point. Google's expiration date is a barometer of its insensitivity to privacy issues. When we noticed this in year 2000 (it was the first time we had ever seen such a long-lived cookie), the idea of Google Watch was born. Google's response to other privacy issues since then tells us that we were right.

    The purpose of the unique ID is to record your search terms for present or future profiling. Google says that the cookie is needed to set preferences. At the CIA, Google's cookie story would be termed a cover story, because the unique ID is completely superfluous for this function, even when the rest of the cookie is used to do this. In fact, you can set preferences without any sort of cookie at all.

    Source: Google's Cookie
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    About all of this tracking discussion, what's the real problem? I mean, sure, Google tracks your preferences and probably some other things, but what do you have to be scared of?

    Unles you're looking for bomb plans to destroy the Eiffel tower, I really don't see why you should be concerned about it.

    Seriously, has it done any harm to you? If you really are concerned, just turn off the computer, because praticly all websites track you in a way or an other. Just look at this forum (No offense Ian); it tracks your IP, what pages you view, etc... Yet, is it for anything evil or bad?

    Note: when I say "you", I don't really mean anybody in particular. The person who reads it ;)
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    TrainableMan ^ The World's First ^ Moderator

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    I'm not a Google person but to me that isn't much to be concerned about. I run CCleaner to clear out my cookies regularly so to me it's a non-issue as to when cookies are set to expire.
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    My point of posting this article was to show how pervasive Google's analytical data gathering practices are, and to what lengths they will go to acquire personal information, not to vent about big brother banging on your front door.

    Bottom line is that all internet usage is very closely monitored, whether you choose to call that comment "paranoid hoo-haa" or not. Choose to believe that, or dismiss it as foolish nonsense rantings of a lunatic. I really don't care.
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    Yes, of course, as do I, and more than likely, most of the members here. Nonetheless, there are still millions of people who do not clean their cookies and leave that tracking data on their system until they can barely get their browser to launch.
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    As I already said, and as Etalmar just repeated, practicly all your browsing is monitored. But saying it's just Google is just plain wrong. And if you actually get to use some other Google products, that little bit of tracking can help a lot, in tools like Analytics or AdSense.

    Anybody who is concerned about all this tracking should just ask him/herself "What has it done to me?".

    And, you can also simply disable recieving cookies from Google.
    And (yet another one), you're monitored everywhere. It's not just on the web, but also in general life. I won't go into details, but you should be able to think a quite a few cases.
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    It may or may not do no personal harm, depending on the situation. Evidence brought forth in court, regarding web searching, has landed many in prison, some for life, based on circumstantial evidence, mainly evidence secured through web searches.

    And I'm not speaking of illegal porn, either. There were a couple of high profile convictions, secured by evidence of topics the defendant searched on the Web. That's not grounds for a murder conviction, in my opinion, with no other physical evidence brought forth. A couple of downloaded songs means nothing.

    That's were the line should be drawn, web searches should be deleted after use, unless an internet law is broken (illegal porn, software piracy & so forth).

    Cat
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    I'm guessing from all the post that no one has anything to say about "Office 365". I see references to other topics but not Office 365.
    clifford_cooley, Oct 21, 2010
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