Installed XP Mode, but it's not on the list of programs

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by Percival P. Cassidy, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. I had XP mode working in 32-bit Win7Pro with SP1, but I have just
    installed 64-bit Win7Pro (also with SP1) in its place.

    Twice now I have downloaded and installed XP mode (yes, the correct
    version, and uninstalled the first before installing the second time),
    but it does not show up in the Programs list.

    The .VHD file is there in C:\Program Files\Windows XP Mode, along with
    Key and VXPEULA files and a Tutorial subdirectory containing .html files
    that (it would appear) should have been displayed in the course of the
    installation: a tutorial, and then either a Success or a Failure
    message. I have seen none of these: I get the message box telling me
    that installation is complete, and I click Finish, and ... Nothing.

    And, yes, i have rebooted to see if that solves the problem but without
    success.

    Seriously frustrating.

    Perce
     
    Percival P. Cassidy, Mar 16, 2012
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  2. On 03/16/12 11:51 am, I wrote:

    > I had XP mode working in 32-bit Win7Pro with SP1, but I have just
    > installed 64-bit Win7Pro (also with SP1) in its place.
    >
    > Twice now I have downloaded and installed XP mode (yes, the correct
    > version, and uninstalled the first before installing the second time),
    > but it does not show up in the Programs list.
    >
    > The .VHD file is there in C:\Program Files\Windows XP Mode, along with
    > Key and VXPEULA files and a Tutorial subdirectory containing .html files
    > that (it would appear) should have been displayed in the course of the
    > installation: a tutorial, and then either a Success or a Failure
    > message. I have seen none of these: I get the message box telling me
    > that installation is complete, and I click Finish, and ... Nothing.
    >
    > And, yes, I have rebooted to see if that solves the problem but without
    > success.
    >
    > Seriously frustrating.


    And nothing on the Programs list for 'Windows Virtual PC' either.

    Perce
     
    Percival P. Cassidy, Mar 16, 2012
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  3. Percival P. Cassidy

    Paul Guest

    Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
    > On 03/16/12 11:51 am, I wrote:
    >
    >> I had XP mode working in 32-bit Win7Pro with SP1, but I have just
    >> installed 64-bit Win7Pro (also with SP1) in its place.
    >>
    >> Twice now I have downloaded and installed XP mode (yes, the correct
    >> version, and uninstalled the first before installing the second time),
    >> but it does not show up in the Programs list.
    >>
    >> The .VHD file is there in C:\Program Files\Windows XP Mode, along with
    >> Key and VXPEULA files and a Tutorial subdirectory containing .html files
    >> that (it would appear) should have been displayed in the course of the
    >> installation: a tutorial, and then either a Success or a Failure
    >> message. I have seen none of these: I get the message box telling me
    >> that installation is complete, and I click Finish, and ... Nothing.
    >>
    >> And, yes, I have rebooted to see if that solves the problem but without
    >> success.
    >>
    >> Seriously frustrating.

    >
    > And nothing on the Programs list for 'Windows Virtual PC' either.
    >
    > Perce
    >


    I'm not the lucky owner of WinXP mode (just have Premium), but I
    thought the thing consisted of two components. Windows Virtual PC
    package, is the virtual machine software, basically a re-boiled
    VPC2007 with a less useful control interface on it.

    I thought you downloaded the WinXP mode package, and Windows Virtual PC
    converts the download, into something it can use. Do you have two
    files or just the one ?

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx

    ( Picture of the screen with the steps... )

    http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7848/winxpmode.gif

    Paul
     
    Paul, Mar 16, 2012
    #3
  4. On 03/16/12 01:22 pm, Paul wrote:

    >>> I had XP mode working in 32-bit Win7Pro with SP1, but I have just
    >>> installed 64-bit Win7Pro (also with SP1) in its place.
    >>>
    >>> Twice now I have downloaded and installed XP mode (yes, the correct
    >>> version, and uninstalled the first before installing the second time),
    >>> but it does not show up in the Programs list.
    >>>
    >>> The .VHD file is there in C:\Program Files\Windows XP Mode, along with
    >>> Key and VXPEULA files and a Tutorial subdirectory containing .html files
    >>> that (it would appear) should have been displayed in the course of the
    >>> installation: a tutorial, and then either a Success or a Failure
    >>> message. I have seen none of these: I get the message box telling me
    >>> that installation is complete, and I click Finish, and ... Nothing.
    >>>
    >>> And, yes, I have rebooted to see if that solves the problem but without
    >>> success.
    >>>
    >>> Seriously frustrating.

    >>
    >> And nothing on the Programs list for 'Windows Virtual PC' either.


    > I'm not the lucky owner of WinXP mode (just have Premium), but I
    > thought the thing consisted of two components. Windows Virtual PC
    > package, is the virtual machine software, basically a re-boiled
    > VPC2007 with a less useful control interface on it.
    >
    > I thought you downloaded the WinXP mode package, and Windows Virtual PC
    > converts the download, into something it can use. Do you have two
    > files or just the one ?
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx
    >
    > ( Picture of the screen with the steps... )
    >
    > http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7848/winxpmode.gif


    Doh! I overlooked the fact that I had to download and install the
    VirtualPC component separately. I was thinking that WinXP Mode
    *included* VirtualPC, and that the separate download for the latter was
    just if one needed VirtualPC for something other than XP Mode.

    And, if I may say so, it seems counterintuitive. It would be more
    logical to install VirtualPC, then install XP Mode (or whatever else)
    in Virtual PC.

    Thanks for pointing out to me the error of my ways.

    Perce
     
    Percival P. Cassidy, Mar 16, 2012
    #4
  5. Percival P. Cassidy

    VanguardLH Guest

    Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

    > On 03/16/12 01:22 pm, Paul wrote:
    >
    >>>> I had XP mode working in 32-bit Win7Pro with SP1, but I have just
    >>>> installed 64-bit Win7Pro (also with SP1) in its place.
    >>>>
    >>>> Twice now I have downloaded and installed XP mode (yes, the correct
    >>>> version, and uninstalled the first before installing the second time),
    >>>> but it does not show up in the Programs list.
    >>>>
    >>>> The .VHD file is there in C:\Program Files\Windows XP Mode, along with
    >>>> Key and VXPEULA files and a Tutorial subdirectory containing .html files
    >>>> that (it would appear) should have been displayed in the course of the
    >>>> installation: a tutorial, and then either a Success or a Failure
    >>>> message. I have seen none of these: I get the message box telling me
    >>>> that installation is complete, and I click Finish, and ... Nothing.
    >>>>
    >>>> And, yes, I have rebooted to see if that solves the problem but without
    >>>> success.
    >>>>
    >>>> Seriously frustrating.
    >>>
    >>> And nothing on the Programs list for 'Windows Virtual PC' either.

    >
    >> I'm not the lucky owner of WinXP mode (just have Premium), but I
    >> thought the thing consisted of two components. Windows Virtual PC
    >> package, is the virtual machine software, basically a re-boiled
    >> VPC2007 with a less useful control interface on it.
    >>
    >> I thought you downloaded the WinXP mode package, and Windows Virtual PC
    >> converts the download, into something it can use. Do you have two
    >> files or just the one ?
    >>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx
    >>
    >> ( Picture of the screen with the steps... )
    >>
    >> http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7848/winxpmode.gif

    >
    > Doh! I overlooked the fact that I had to download and install the
    > VirtualPC component separately. I was thinking that WinXP Mode
    > *included* VirtualPC, and that the separate download for the latter was
    > just if one needed VirtualPC for something other than XP Mode.
    >
    > And, if I may say so, it seems counterintuitive. It would be more
    > logical to install VirtualPC, then install XP Mode (or whatever else)
    > in Virtual PC.
    >
    > Thanks for pointing out to me the error of my ways.


    I thought about the 2-file download but figured you did that and you'd
    feel insulted for me suggesting it.

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7
    "Installing and ..."
    "Download and install Windows XP Mode"
    "Download and install Windows Virtual PC"

    From what I've read, VirtualPC 2007 and WVPC (Windows Virtual PC) are
    not exactly the same. That latter is supposed to streamline into the
    desktop and, I believe, support USB device whereas the former runs as a
    separate console window in which you view the VM and doesn't support
    USB. From what I can tell, XP Mode is the Windows XP license with
    integration features while WVPC is the actual VMM (virtual machine
    manager).

    I have seen others get burned by the double-download requirement and
    only doing one of them. Even if they didn't bundle them together, you'd
    think the installer for WVPC would test if XP Mode had already been
    installed and, if not, tell you to go get it, and the XP Mode install
    would finish by offering to go get the WVPC download for you. Yeah, but
    that's too logical.
     
    VanguardLH, Mar 17, 2012
    #5
  6. Percival P. Cassidy

    Paul Guest

    VanguardLH wrote:
    > Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
    >
    >> On 03/16/12 01:22 pm, Paul wrote:
    >>
    >>>>> I had XP mode working in 32-bit Win7Pro with SP1, but I have just
    >>>>> installed 64-bit Win7Pro (also with SP1) in its place.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Twice now I have downloaded and installed XP mode (yes, the correct
    >>>>> version, and uninstalled the first before installing the second time),
    >>>>> but it does not show up in the Programs list.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The .VHD file is there in C:\Program Files\Windows XP Mode, along with
    >>>>> Key and VXPEULA files and a Tutorial subdirectory containing .html files
    >>>>> that (it would appear) should have been displayed in the course of the
    >>>>> installation: a tutorial, and then either a Success or a Failure
    >>>>> message. I have seen none of these: I get the message box telling me
    >>>>> that installation is complete, and I click Finish, and ... Nothing.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And, yes, I have rebooted to see if that solves the problem but without
    >>>>> success.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Seriously frustrating.
    >>>> And nothing on the Programs list for 'Windows Virtual PC' either.
    >>> I'm not the lucky owner of WinXP mode (just have Premium), but I
    >>> thought the thing consisted of two components. Windows Virtual PC
    >>> package, is the virtual machine software, basically a re-boiled
    >>> VPC2007 with a less useful control interface on it.
    >>>
    >>> I thought you downloaded the WinXP mode package, and Windows Virtual PC
    >>> converts the download, into something it can use. Do you have two
    >>> files or just the one ?
    >>>
    >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx
    >>>
    >>> ( Picture of the screen with the steps... )
    >>>
    >>> http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7848/winxpmode.gif

    >> Doh! I overlooked the fact that I had to download and install the
    >> VirtualPC component separately. I was thinking that WinXP Mode
    >> *included* VirtualPC, and that the separate download for the latter was
    >> just if one needed VirtualPC for something other than XP Mode.
    >>
    >> And, if I may say so, it seems counterintuitive. It would be more
    >> logical to install VirtualPC, then install XP Mode (or whatever else)
    >> in Virtual PC.
    >>
    >> Thanks for pointing out to me the error of my ways.

    >
    > I thought about the 2-file download but figured you did that and you'd
    > feel insulted for me suggesting it.
    >
    > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7
    > "Installing and ..."
    > "Download and install Windows XP Mode"
    > "Download and install Windows Virtual PC"
    >
    > From what I've read, VirtualPC 2007 and WVPC (Windows Virtual PC) are
    > not exactly the same. That latter is supposed to streamline into the
    > desktop and, I believe, support USB device whereas the former runs as a
    > separate console window in which you view the VM and doesn't support
    > USB. From what I can tell, XP Mode is the Windows XP license with
    > integration features while WVPC is the actual VMM (virtual machine
    > manager).
    >
    > I have seen others get burned by the double-download requirement and
    > only doing one of them. Even if they didn't bundle them together, you'd
    > think the installer for WVPC would test if XP Mode had already been
    > installed and, if not, tell you to go get it, and the XP Mode install
    > would finish by offering to go get the WVPC download for you. Yeah, but
    > that's too logical.


    The Windows Virtual PC is definitely a "plus/minus" of the previous VPC2007.
    On the UI front, it's a step backwards. The control panel on VPC2007 is
    really nice by comparison, and is easier to use and provides all the
    functionality you could want, better than VirtualBox. VirtualBox is more
    rigid and annoying, than the VPC2007 interface. If it wasn't for
    the superior technical aspects of VirtualBox, I probably wouldn't use
    it, just because of less easy ability to make changes to VM settings.

    The added USB support in WVPC, is worse than the VirtualBox version. VirtualBox
    handles USB at more like a physical level (actually, quite clever). VirtualBox
    works by VID/PID, and takes all the traffic away from the host, based on that,
    so the guest OS can use it. As far as I know, the Windows Virtual PC version
    supports limited protocols, so if you plug in a USB key, then the USB storage
    class and protocol can be passed through to the guest. If you had a device with
    a custom protocol (say, a webcam that wasn't UVC class), then Windows Virtual PC
    would ignore that. So the support in Windows Virtual PC, is better than VPC2007,
    but in not as nearly useful a way as VirtualBox.

    Windows Virtual PC supports Terminal Services protocol, and that was added
    for the ability to have rootless windows for guest programs. VPC2007 only
    supports rooted operation, with a window for the entire desktop.

    But in many other ways, it's based on VPC2007. It's not a rewrite or anything,
    it's an evolution of the feature set. The UI aspects are a step backwards,
    when managing other guest OSes. I'm willing to bet the development team
    weren't too happy about that, but were asked to do "look and feel" to match
    how the rest of the OS visual aspects were designed. I don't think they
    did that because it was "superior" in some way.

    Paul
     
    Paul, Mar 17, 2012
    #6
  7. Percival P. Cassidy

    ...winston Guest

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7

    Get Windows XP Mode and Virtual PC
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

    Download Windows XP Mode with Virtual PC
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx
    - ensure you select the correct edition and version (32/64) of Windows 7

    In the long run, though if you plan on having more control then VMWare or
    Virtual Box may be better choices


    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp mail


    "Percival P. Cassidy" wrote in message news:jjvnhu$k3r$...

    I had XP mode working in 32-bit Win7Pro with SP1, but I have just
    installed 64-bit Win7Pro (also with SP1) in its place.

    Twice now I have downloaded and installed XP mode (yes, the correct
    version, and uninstalled the first before installing the second time),
    but it does not show up in the Programs list.

    The .VHD file is there in C:\Program Files\Windows XP Mode, along with
    Key and VXPEULA files and a Tutorial subdirectory containing .html files
    that (it would appear) should have been displayed in the course of the
    installation: a tutorial, and then either a Success or a Failure
    message. I have seen none of these: I get the message box telling me
    that installation is complete, and I click Finish, and ... Nothing.

    And, yes, i have rebooted to see if that solves the problem but without
    success.

    Seriously frustrating.

    Perce
     
    ...winston, Mar 17, 2012
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