IF XP HAD 135 updates in its history

J

Jon Pope

and everyone liked it. Win 7 is only 5 months old and it surpasses XP what
gives
 
L

LD55ZRA

I don't bother to install any updates post SP3. PERIOD. They are useless
and they only succeed to slow down your system.
 
G

Gordon

LD55ZRA said:
I don't bother to install any updates post SP3. PERIOD. They are useless
and they only succeed to slow down your system.
Another idiot. People like you are one of the reasons the internet is awash
with WINDOWS viruses and malware - because you don't care twopence about
security.
 
J

Jon Pope

I agree with you Gordon. I just think its funny that MS says that Win 7 is
more secure. The way things are going with 7 we might need 2700 updates in
the 10 year history
 
G

Gordon

Jon Pope said:
I agree with you Gordon. I just think its funny that MS says that Win 7 is
more secure. The way things are going with 7 we might need 2700 updates in
the 10 year history
Doesn't worry me about the number of updates - what DOES concern me is that
as the security updates are issued for a specific reason - to make the OS
more secure - people who deliberately don't install them are not just
putting themselves at risk , but are creating a potential problem for
others.
 
S

Slap

Jon Pope said:
I agree with you Gordon. I just think its funny that MS says that Win 7 is
more secure. The way things are going with 7 we might need 2700 updates in
the 10 year history
That's why it is more secure.
--
 
D

DanS

That's why it is more secure.
Hacker exploits IE8 on Windows 7 to win Pwn2Own
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5855&tag=nl.e589

Pwn2Own hack topples Firefox on Windows
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5865&tag=nl.e589

Both brand new exploits that MS doesn't even know any technical
details about yet...

"ASLR+DEP are held up as significant roadblocks to thwart
malware attacks on the newest versions of Windows but, as this
contest shows, skilled hackers with enough motivation and
resources can bypass those mitigations easily."

As both hacks completely bypassed both ASLR + DEP.
 
L

LD55ZRA

Gordon said:
Another idiot. People like you are one of the reasons the internet is
awash with WINDOWS viruses and malware - because you don't care
twopence about security.
If the "internet is awash with WINDOWS viruses and malware" then clearly
the updates you are installing very religiously month after month aren't
working. and this is exactly what I am saying! Thank you for proving my
point. You will protect your self by making sure you don't install any
updates and instead reconfigure your Windows firewall such that no
exceptions is allowed.

You will learn a thing or two from me if you stop taking advice from
Microsoft Valuable Pigs of which you are very fond of.
 
L

LD55ZRA

Jon said:
I agree with you Gordon. I just think its funny that MS says that Win
7 is more secure. The way things are going with 7 we might need 2700
updates in the 10 year history
Another Steve Ballmer's ass licker.
 
L

LD55ZRA

Gordon said:
what DOES concern me is that as the security updates are issued for a
specific reason - -
That reason is to destabilize your system so that you rush to your local
store and buy a new system with Windows 7 even if you don't need it
immediately.
people who deliberately don't install them are not just putting
themselves at risk , but are creating a potential problem for others.
Well in that case you are at fault for not being able to look after
system. You can't blame the virus writers for infecting your system or
for that matter blame people like me who bother with useless updates;
Blame yourself and your advisers who told you to install all useless
updates from Microsoft.
 
L

LD55ZRA

Frank said:
You can't possible be as dumb and as stupid as you sound...can you?
If you don't have anything better to say do you mind going away to suck
certain Mr Ballmer's ass?
 
L

LD55ZRA

Frank said:
You've never told us who's dick your sucking...is it LT or RS or both?
Enquiring minds want to know.

If you don't have anything better to say do you mind going away to suck
certain Mr Ballmer's ass?
 
A

Andrew

Jon Pope said:
and everyone liked it. Win 7 is only 5 months old and it surpasses XP what
gives
It seems to me there were many more than 135 updates in it's history, even
without counting the issues fixed in the service packs.
Where did you come up with this number?

I just put up a couple of Win7 boxes last week and they only had 35 or so
updates for all software on the box, including IE, Silverlight, .NET etc.
 
J

Jon Pope

I had counted the updates on WIN 7 Home Prem

Andrew said:
It seems to me there were many more than 135 updates in it's history, even
without counting the issues fixed in the service packs.
Where did you come up with this number?

I just put up a couple of Win7 boxes last week and they only had 35 or so
updates for all software on the box, including IE, Silverlight, .NET etc.
 
A

Andrew

Jon Pope said:
WIN 7 NEEDS A SERVICE PACK AFTER 5 MONTHS now that's bad lol
Let me give you a clue on how Service Packs work.
I was a test lead on the Windows Service Pack Team (WINSE) for 6 years so I
am pretty familiar with the process.
Many bugs that weren't deemed showstoppers (high priority) were pushed off
to Win7SP1 (and later) during the development process.
Those bugs are now getting looked at along with others that have come up for
inclusion in Win7SP1.
Technically SP1 for Win7 has been in development since well before the
release of Win7.
 
S

SC Tom

Andrew said:
It seems to me there were many more than 135 updates in it's history, even
without counting the issues fixed in the service packs.
Where did you come up with this number?

I just put up a couple of Win7 boxes last week and they only had 35 or so
updates for all software on the box, including IE, Silverlight, .NET etc.
I have ~110 updates on my Win7 Home Premium, and 43 of them are for
Defender, so that leaves 67. Only half of the 135 claimed by Jon. And the
service pack isn't scheduled to be released until June/July, which is about
the same time frame as the previous versions of Windows. I personally don't
see what the big deal is with the number of updates as long as any problems
are fixed. I install them when I'm reminded, and have never had a problem
since upgrading to Win95 from Win3.11 and subsequent versions.
 
J

Jon Pope

OK SC Tom ur right me bad

SC Tom said:
I have ~110 updates on my Win7 Home Premium, and 43 of them are for
Defender, so that leaves 67. Only half of the 135 claimed by Jon. And the
service pack isn't scheduled to be released until June/July, which is
about the same time frame as the previous versions of Windows. I
personally don't see what the big deal is with the number of updates as
long as any problems are fixed. I install them when I'm reminded, and have
never had a problem since upgrading to Win95 from Win3.11 and subsequent
versions.
 
M

MJMIII

LD55ZRA said:
If you don't have anything better to say do you mind going away to suck
certain Mr Ballmer's ass?
You finally giving someone else a chance?
 

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