IF XP HAD 135 updates in its history

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by Jon Pope, Mar 25, 2010.

  1. Jon Pope

    Jon Pope Guest

    and everyone liked it. Win 7 is only 5 months old and it surpasses XP what
    gives
    Jon Pope, Mar 25, 2010
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  2. Jon Pope

    LD55ZRA Guest

    I don't bother to install any updates post SP3. PERIOD. They are useless
    and they only succeed to slow down your system.


    "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
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    > and everyone liked it. Win 7 is only 5 months old and it surpasses XP what
    > gives
    LD55ZRA, Mar 25, 2010
    #2
  3. Jon Pope

    Gordon Guest

    "LD55ZRA" <> wrote in message
    news:hof0aj$cc3$...
    >
    > I don't bother to install any updates post SP3. PERIOD. They are useless
    > and they only succeed to slow down your system.
    >


    Another idiot. People like you are one of the reasons the internet is awash
    with WINDOWS viruses and malware - because you don't care twopence about
    security.
    Gordon, Mar 25, 2010
    #3
  4. Jon Pope

    Jon Pope Guest

    I agree with you Gordon. I just think its funny that MS says that Win 7 is
    more secure. The way things are going with 7 we might need 2700 updates in
    the 10 year history

    "Gordon" <> wrote in message
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    >
    > "LD55ZRA" <> wrote in message
    > news:hof0aj$cc3$...
    >>
    >> I don't bother to install any updates post SP3. PERIOD. They are
    >> useless and they only succeed to slow down your system.
    >>

    >
    > Another idiot. People like you are one of the reasons the internet is
    > awash with WINDOWS viruses and malware - because you don't care twopence
    > about security.
    Jon Pope, Mar 25, 2010
    #4
  5. Jon Pope

    Gordon Guest

    "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
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    > I agree with you Gordon. I just think its funny that MS says that Win 7 is
    > more secure. The way things are going with 7 we might need 2700 updates in
    > the 10 year history
    >


    Doesn't worry me about the number of updates - what DOES concern me is that
    as the security updates are issued for a specific reason - to make the OS
    more secure - people who deliberately don't install them are not just
    putting themselves at risk , but are creating a potential problem for
    others.
    Gordon, Mar 25, 2010
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  6. Jon Pope

    Slap Guest

    "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
    news:hoffcb$810$...
    > I agree with you Gordon. I just think its funny that MS says that Win 7 is
    > more secure. The way things are going with 7 we might need 2700 updates in
    > the 10 year history
    >


    That's why it is more secure.
    --
    Slap, Mar 25, 2010
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  7. Jon Pope

    DanS Guest

    "Slap" <> wrote in
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    >
    > "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
    > news:hoffcb$810$...
    >> I agree with you Gordon. I just think its funny that MS
    >> says that Win 7 is more secure. The way things are going
    >> with 7 we might need 2700 updates in the 10 year history
    >>

    >
    > That's why it is more secure.


    Hacker exploits IE8 on Windows 7 to win Pwn2Own
    http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5855&tag=nl.e589

    Pwn2Own hack topples Firefox on Windows
    http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5865&tag=nl.e589

    Both brand new exploits that MS doesn't even know any technical
    details about yet...

    "ASLR+DEP are held up as significant roadblocks to thwart
    malware attacks on the newest versions of Windows but, as this
    contest shows, skilled hackers with enough motivation and
    resources can bypass those mitigations easily."

    As both hacks completely bypassed both ASLR + DEP.
    DanS, Mar 25, 2010
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  8. Jon Pope

    LD55ZRA Guest

    Gordon wrote:

    >
    > "LD55ZRA" <> wrote in message
    > news:hof0aj$cc3$...
    >
    >>
    >> I don't bother to install any updates post SP3. PERIOD. They are
    >> useless and they only succeed to slow down your system.
    >>

    >
    > Another idiot. People like you are one of the reasons the internet is
    > awash with WINDOWS viruses and malware - because you don't care
    > twopence about security.


    If the "internet is awash with WINDOWS viruses and malware" then clearly
    the updates you are installing very religiously month after month aren't
    working. and this is exactly what I am saying! Thank you for proving my
    point. You will protect your self by making sure you don't install any
    updates and instead reconfigure your Windows firewall such that no
    exceptions is allowed.

    You will learn a thing or two from me if you stop taking advice from
    Microsoft Valuable Pigs of which you are very fond of.
    LD55ZRA, Mar 25, 2010
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  9. Jon Pope

    LD55ZRA Guest

    Jon Pope wrote:

    > I agree with you Gordon. I just think its funny that MS says that Win
    > 7 is more secure. The way things are going with 7 we might need 2700
    > updates in the 10 year history
    >
    >

    Another Steve Ballmer's ass licker.
    LD55ZRA, Mar 25, 2010
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  10. Jon Pope

    LD55ZRA Guest

    Gordon wrote:

    >
    > what DOES concern me is that as the security updates are issued for a
    > specific reason - -


    That reason is to destabilize your system so that you rush to your local
    store and buy a new system with Windows 7 even if you don't need it
    immediately.

    > people who deliberately don't install them are not just putting
    > themselves at risk , but are creating a potential problem for others.


    Well in that case you are at fault for not being able to look after
    system. You can't blame the virus writers for infecting your system or
    for that matter blame people like me who bother with useless updates;
    Blame yourself and your advisers who told you to install all useless
    updates from Microsoft.
    LD55ZRA, Mar 25, 2010
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  11. Jon Pope

    LD55ZRA Guest

    Frank wrote:

    > You can't possible be as dumb and as stupid as you sound...can you?


    If you don't have anything better to say do you mind going away to suck
    certain Mr Ballmer's ass?
    LD55ZRA, Mar 25, 2010
    #11
  12. Jon Pope

    LD55ZRA Guest

    Frank wrote:

    >
    > What stupid POS you are.



    If you don't have anything better to say do you mind going away to suck
    certain Mr Ballmer's ass?
    LD55ZRA, Mar 25, 2010
    #12
  13. Jon Pope

    LD55ZRA Guest

    Frank wrote:

    > You've never told us who's dick your sucking...is it LT or RS or both?
    > Enquiring minds want to know.



    If you don't have anything better to say do you mind going away to suck
    certain Mr Ballmer's ass?
    LD55ZRA, Mar 25, 2010
    #13
  14. Jon Pope

    Andrew Guest

    "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
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    > and everyone liked it. Win 7 is only 5 months old and it surpasses XP what
    > gives


    It seems to me there were many more than 135 updates in it's history, even
    without counting the issues fixed in the service packs.
    Where did you come up with this number?

    I just put up a couple of Win7 boxes last week and they only had 35 or so
    updates for all software on the box, including IE, Silverlight, .NET etc.

    --
    Andrew
    Andrew, Mar 26, 2010
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  15. Jon Pope

    Jon Pope Guest

    I had counted the updates on WIN 7 Home Prem

    "Andrew" <> wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
    > news:hoeuts$adm$...
    >> and everyone liked it. Win 7 is only 5 months old and it surpasses XP
    >> what gives

    >
    > It seems to me there were many more than 135 updates in it's history, even
    > without counting the issues fixed in the service packs.
    > Where did you come up with this number?
    >
    > I just put up a couple of Win7 boxes last week and they only had 35 or so
    > updates for all software on the box, including IE, Silverlight, .NET etc.
    >
    > --
    > Andrew
    >
    >
    >
    Jon Pope, Mar 26, 2010
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  16. Jon Pope

    Jon Pope Guest

    WIN 7 NEEDS A SERVICE PACK AFTER 5 MONTHS now that's bad lol

    "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
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    > and everyone liked it. Win 7 is only 5 months old and it surpasses XP what
    > gives
    Jon Pope, Mar 26, 2010
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  17. Jon Pope

    Andrew Guest

    "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
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    > WIN 7 NEEDS A SERVICE PACK AFTER 5 MONTHS now that's bad lol
    >
    > "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
    > news:hoeuts$adm$...
    >> and everyone liked it. Win 7 is only 5 months old and it surpasses XP
    >> what gives

    >


    Let me give you a clue on how Service Packs work.
    I was a test lead on the Windows Service Pack Team (WINSE) for 6 years so I
    am pretty familiar with the process.
    Many bugs that weren't deemed showstoppers (high priority) were pushed off
    to Win7SP1 (and later) during the development process.
    Those bugs are now getting looked at along with others that have come up for
    inclusion in Win7SP1.
    Technically SP1 for Win7 has been in development since well before the
    release of Win7.

    --
    Andrew
    Andrew, Mar 26, 2010
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  18. Jon Pope

    SC Tom Guest

    "Andrew" <> wrote in message
    news:hogtjk$1ps$-september.org...
    >
    >
    > "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
    > news:hoeuts$adm$...
    >> and everyone liked it. Win 7 is only 5 months old and it surpasses XP
    >> what gives

    >
    > It seems to me there were many more than 135 updates in it's history, even
    > without counting the issues fixed in the service packs.
    > Where did you come up with this number?
    >
    > I just put up a couple of Win7 boxes last week and they only had 35 or so
    > updates for all software on the box, including IE, Silverlight, .NET etc.
    >
    > --
    > Andrew
    >

    I have ~110 updates on my Win7 Home Premium, and 43 of them are for
    Defender, so that leaves 67. Only half of the 135 claimed by Jon. And the
    service pack isn't scheduled to be released until June/July, which is about
    the same time frame as the previous versions of Windows. I personally don't
    see what the big deal is with the number of updates as long as any problems
    are fixed. I install them when I'm reminded, and have never had a problem
    since upgrading to Win95 from Win3.11 and subsequent versions.
    --
    SC Tom
    SC Tom, Mar 26, 2010
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  19. Jon Pope

    Jon Pope Guest

    OK SC Tom ur right me bad

    "SC Tom" <> wrote in message
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    > "Andrew" <> wrote in message
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    >>
    >>
    >> "Jon Pope" <> wrote in message
    >> news:hoeuts$adm$...
    >>> and everyone liked it. Win 7 is only 5 months old and it surpasses XP
    >>> what gives

    >>
    >> It seems to me there were many more than 135 updates in it's history,
    >> even without counting the issues fixed in the service packs.
    >> Where did you come up with this number?
    >>
    >> I just put up a couple of Win7 boxes last week and they only had 35 or so
    >> updates for all software on the box, including IE, Silverlight, .NET etc.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Andrew
    >>

    > I have ~110 updates on my Win7 Home Premium, and 43 of them are for
    > Defender, so that leaves 67. Only half of the 135 claimed by Jon. And the
    > service pack isn't scheduled to be released until June/July, which is
    > about the same time frame as the previous versions of Windows. I
    > personally don't see what the big deal is with the number of updates as
    > long as any problems are fixed. I install them when I'm reminded, and have
    > never had a problem since upgrading to Win95 from Win3.11 and subsequent
    > versions.
    > --
    > SC Tom
    >
    Jon Pope, Mar 26, 2010
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  20. Jon Pope

    MJMIII Guest

    "LD55ZRA" <> wrote in message
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    > Frank wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> What stupid POS you are.

    >
    >
    > If you don't have anything better to say do you mind going away to suck
    > certain Mr Ballmer's ass?


    You finally giving someone else a chance?
    --


    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
    MJMIII, Mar 26, 2010
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