Acronis Clone

[Bob Hatch]

I've been getting ready to do a clone of my C: drive using Acronis. I
just looked at the steps and the help file documentation talks about
"Moving" the files and allows for three methods.

I don't want files moved, I just want a clone of the disk in the drawer
just in case my C: drive crashes. Does Acronis Clone "Move" or "Copy"
the files?


--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

[Speaking in silver]

I've been getting ready to do a clone of my C: drive using Acronis. I just
looked at the steps and the help file documentation talks about "Moving"
the files and allows for three methods.

I don't want files moved, I just want a clone of the disk in the drawer
just in case my C: drive crashes. Does Acronis Clone "Move" or "Copy" the
files?

If you mean "Acronis True Image Home 2010",
here is the user guide:

http://de1.download.acronis.com/sl/...GdydIKwo/p/pdf/TrueImage2010_UserGuide.en.pdf

Simplified instructions can also be found here:
http://acronis-true-image-home3.software.informer.com/wiki/

If still confused, please let us know the details, and which method you're
planning to use.

 

[SC Tom]

I've been getting ready to do a clone of my C: drive using Acronis. I just
looked at the steps and the help file documentation talks about "Moving"
the files and allows for three methods.

I don't want files moved, I just want a clone of the disk in the drawer
just in case my C: drive crashes. Does Acronis Clone "Move" or "Copy" the
files?


--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

The way I do it is boot from the Acronis boot disk, then do a backup to my
external drive. That creates an image of the drive I pick. To restore it,
boot from the same CD and do a restore. I have restored crashed Vista and XP
disks in this manner with no trouble whatsoever.

 

[Bob Hatch]

If you mean "Acronis True Image Home 2010",
here is the user guide:

http://de1.download.acronis.com/sl/...GdydIKwo/p/pdf/TrueImage2010_UserGuide.en.pdf


Simplified instructions can also be found here:
http://acronis-true-image-home3.software.informer.com/wiki/

If still confused, please let us know the details, and which method
you're planning to use.

Let me repeat:
"I've been getting ready to do a "clone" of my C: drive using Acronis",
and yes I'm using True Image 2010.

Continuing my repeat of the original post:
"I just looked at the steps and the help file documentation talks about
"Moving" the files and allows for three methods."

I want to "Clone" the drive, not image it. "CLONE"!

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

[Bob Hatch]

The way I do it is boot from the Acronis boot disk, then do a backup to
my external drive. That creates an image of the drive I pick. To restore
it, boot from the same CD and do a restore. I have restored crashed
Vista and XP disks in this manner with no trouble whatsoever.

I want to "Clone" not image or backup.

"CLONE"!

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I want to "Clone" not image or backup.

"CLONE"!

Then obtain a cloning program. "CLONING".

Casper is one, and EASEUS Disk copy is another.

Acronis is not one.

Shees.

 

[MJMIII]

I want to "Clone" not image or backup.

"CLONE"!

From what you're describing I believe having Acronis "image" your drive is
the same as making a "CLONE CLONE CLONE" of your drive.

 

[Bob Hatch]

Then obtain a cloning program. "CLONING".

Casper is one, and EASEUS Disk copy is another.

Acronis is not one.

Shees.

One of the options on the Acronis True Image 2010 Tools and Utilities
menu page is "Clone". Acronis made the menu, not me. My confusion is in
the set up of the clone process it makes reference to "moving" the
files. Maybe the answer is not here.


--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

[Bob Hatch]

From what you're describing I believe having Acronis "image" your drive
is the same as making a "CLONE CLONE CLONE" of your drive.

Maybe, but in the Acronis menu pages, on the Tools and Utilites page
"Clone" is the number one option under "Utilites:"

I don't want an image that has to be restored. I want a disk that I can
open the case, unplug the old and plug the new one in and boot the
computer. 3 minutes max.

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

[Speaking in silver]

Let me repeat:
"I've been getting ready to do a "clone" of my C: drive using Acronis",
and yes I'm using True Image 2010.

Continuing my repeat of the original post:
"I just looked at the steps and the help file documentation talks about
"Moving" the files and allows for three methods."

I want to "Clone" the drive, not image it. "CLONE"!

Sorry if I'm missing something, I'm just trying to help here. In the manual
I linked above, Chapter 20.3.1. (Page 166), "Clone mode" is explained: After
selecting Clone Mode, a window will pop up asking you to choose Automatic
(Recommended) or Manual Mode. In the automatic mode, "All the partitions
from your source hard disk will be COPIED to the target disk in a few simple
steps and your new hard disk will be made bootable".

 

[Bob Hatch]

Sorry if I'm missing something, I'm just trying to help here. In the
manual I linked above, Chapter 20.3.1. (Page 166), "Clone mode" is
explained: After selecting Clone Mode, a window will pop up asking you
to choose Automatic (Recommended) or Manual Mode. In the automatic
mode, "All the partitions from your source hard disk will be COPIED to
the target disk in a few simple steps and your new hard disk will be
made bootable".

Then the problem appears to be in the wording on the Manual Mode setup.
There it mentions "Moved". I want to use Manual because I don't want all
the partitions moved. One partition I don't want moved is the Dell
Restore Partition.

It's useless now.

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

[SC Tom]

I want to "Clone" not image or backup.

"CLONE"!

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

Well, then, boot from the boot CD and CLONE it.

 

[MJMIII]

Maybe, but in the Acronis menu pages, on the Tools and Utilites page
"Clone" is the number one option under "Utilites:"

I don't want an image that has to be restored. I want a disk that I can
open the case, unplug the old and plug the new one in and boot the
computer. 3 minutes max.

Now I understand, but you can create an image on an external drive and if
your drive goes tits-up you just boot from the disk you create, have a cup
of coffee and you're all set.

 

[SC Tom]

Maybe, but in the Acronis menu pages, on the Tools and Utilites page
"Clone" is the number one option under "Utilites:"

I don't want an image that has to be restored. I want a disk that I can
open the case, unplug the old and plug the new one in and boot the
computer. 3 minutes max.

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

[SC Tom]

Maybe, but in the Acronis menu pages, on the Tools and Utilites page
"Clone" is the number one option under "Utilites:"

I don't want an image that has to be restored. I want a disk that I can
open the case, unplug the old and plug the new one in and boot the
computer. 3 minutes max.

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

Whoops, premature button-ation. . .
If cloning isn't working for you, you can always create the image, then
write it to the new drive. Then you'll have a clone of your current drive.

 

[ericp]

I've been getting ready to do a clone of my C: drive using Acronis. I
just looked at the steps and the help file documentation talks about
"Moving" the files and allows for three methods.

I don't want files moved, I just want a clone of the disk in the drawer
just in case my C: drive crashes. Does Acronis Clone "Move" or "Copy"
the files?

If you use the Clone function you must have a blank drive plugged into
the PC. Acronis will then simply copy the selected drive in its
entirety to the new blank drive, creating an exact clone copy.

The normal Acronis function is to copy a drive to a ".tib file" on
another drive, either in a compressed format or uncompressed. You can
store this tib file anywhere. When you want to Restore a drive, or
files, you simply show the tib file to Acronis and it puts the image
on the selected drive.

The Clone function removes the need for the tedious TIB file part and
two loadings of Acronis to Recover the tib file. Seems a welcome
addition to the program.

Both approaches achieve exactly the same aim, but Clone does not need
a sometimes huge TIB file to be made or deleted.

 

[Bob Hatch]

If you use the Clone function you must have a blank drive plugged into
the PC. Acronis will then simply copy the selected drive in its
entirety to the new blank drive, creating an exact clone copy.

The normal Acronis function is to copy a drive to a ".tib file" on
another drive, either in a compressed format or uncompressed. You can
store this tib file anywhere. When you want to Restore a drive, or
files, you simply show the tib file to Acronis and it puts the image
on the selected drive.

The Clone function removes the need for the tedious TIB file part and
two loadings of Acronis to Recover the tib file. Seems a welcome
addition to the program.

Both approaches achieve exactly the same aim, but Clone does not need
a sometimes huge TIB file to be made or deleted.

That's what I want. When I had XP I was using Copy/Wipe and it did a
really good job, but I've been told, haven't tested it yet, that
Copy/Wipe will not work with Vista or Windows 7. I'm going to test
Copy/Wipe with Windows 7 doing a Sector by Sector copy and see how that
works.

Too many toys!

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

One of the options on the Acronis True Image 2010 Tools and Utilities menu
page is "Clone". Acronis made the menu, not me. My confusion is in the set up
of the clone process it makes reference to "moving" the files. Maybe the
answer is not here.

OK, my bad...

I no longer have Acronis installed, so I couldn't look at the menus -
and I trusted my memory (shudder).

I only used it to make images.

I suspect that they meant copy, not move, but it might worry me too

Still: the two programs I mentioned will clone a single partition or a
whole drive. I think Acronis only does the whole drive, which is why I
misremembered that it does nothing: it does nothing that I wanted at
the time...

Reminder: Casper and EASEUS Disk Copy. The second one is free, but
Casper can do an incremental clone.

Casper: http://www.fssdev.com/shop/default.aspx#
EASEUS: http://www.easeus.com/disk-copy/

I've used both quite happily (and am still using Casper), but I haven't
restored from either one, so I'm running on faith.

The image software I now use is Macrium Reflect, also not free, but
they have a free version that won't do incremental BUs.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Now I understand, but you can create an image on an external drive and if
your drive goes tits-up you just boot from the disk you create, have a cup of
coffee and you're all set.

Not so. The image is a compressed file (or set of files) in Acronis's
proprietary format.

You must use Acronis to restore an image to a drive, and you must use
Acronis to mount an image as a virtual drive.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Whoops, premature button-ation. . .
If cloning isn't working for you, you can always create the image, then write
it to the new drive. Then you'll have a clone of your current drive.

See my reply to MJMIII's post (I say this only because I'm a little
unsure if you agree with him or with me).

What I should have added to that post is that with Acronis, you can
create a bootable rescue CD which does enable you to restore the image
to a new drive.

That's also true of Macrium that I use, but EASEUS and Casper that I
mentioned in this thread do create drives that you can just drop in, in
place of the old drive.