Taking ownership

I changed the HKCR\*\shell\takeownership\", "Take Ownership", to
HKCR\*\shell\runas\","Take Ownership". That was the problem. I already had
other code in the runas reg key at the time. It was my bad! Sorry. If its
all right with you I will add the exe code to my script. Again sorry.



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"Dave-UK" wrote in message
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"PaulM" <> wrote in message
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> My script does not work in windows 7. I will update it.
>
> I did get your reg file to work, it was something in the registery.
>
>

What was the ' something ' in your ' registery ' ?
You haven't provided any details, and until you do I can only assume you are
just lying about your 'problem'. It never existed, it was just you spreading
FUD.
I see you have corrected your sloppy code but you haven't included exe files
so
your Take Ownership script is as useless as the others.
You should include the reg file I posted in your script, then it would
handle all files.

"PaulM" <> wrote in message news:jblljd$lo1$...
> I changed the HKCR\*\shell\takeownership\", "Take Ownership", to
> HKCR\*\shell\runas\","Take Ownership". That was the problem. I already had
> other code in the runas reg key at the time. It was my bad! Sorry. If its
> all right with you I will add the exe code to my script. Again sorry.
>
>
>

OK.
The reg file isn't mine, I found it about a year ago after trying several of the others.
It's only a small text file anyway so nobody really 'owns' it.

Ok, thanks.


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"Dave-UK" wrote in message
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"PaulM" <> wrote in message
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> I changed the HKCR\*\shell\takeownership\", "Take Ownership", to
> HKCR\*\shell\runas\","Take Ownership". That was the problem. I already
> had other code in the runas reg key at the time. It was my bad! Sorry.
> If its all right with you I will add the exe code to my script. Again
> sorry.
>
>
>

OK.
The reg file isn't mine, I found it about a year ago after trying several of
the others.
It's only a small text file anyway so nobody really 'owns' it.

On 12/01/2011 06:01 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
> There have been numerous posts in this NG about the problem of Win7
> preventing changes to, or doing something with a file, because the
> person trying it does not have the correct permission, even if that
> person has administrator status.
>
> The way round this is normally said to be opening the file properties,
> going to the security tab, and changing the permissions settings. It
> isn't that easy and sometimes doesn't seem to work.
>
> Has anyone installed the registry hack given here which supposedly makes
> the whole process a lot easier?
> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...menu-in-vista/
>
>
> Reading the comments on that page and in the forum it seems to work for
> most people, but for others it doesn't and may even screw some things up.
>
> Anyone here who has installed and used it - successfully or not?
>

I haven't installed it yet but i don't understand how 'admin' does not
have rights do do as admin pleases? Is that the same as 'root' in linux
or something less?

On 12/07/2011, bad sector posted:
> On 12/01/2011 06:01 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> There have been numerous posts in this NG about the problem of Win7
>> preventing changes to, or doing something with a file, because the
>> person trying it does not have the correct permission, even if that
>> person has administrator status.
>>
>> The way round this is normally said to be opening the file properties,
>> going to the security tab, and changing the permissions settings. It
>> isn't that easy and sometimes doesn't seem to work.
>>
>> Has anyone installed the registry hack given here which supposedly makes
>> the whole process a lot easier?
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...menu-in-vista/
>>
>>
>> Reading the comments on that page and in the forum it seems to work for
>> most people, but for others it doesn't and may even screw some things up.
>>
>> Anyone here who has installed and used it - successfully or not?
>>

> I haven't installed it yet but i don't understand how 'admin' does not have
> rights do do as admin pleases? Is that the same as 'root' in linux or
> something less?

There are two different things.

1. *THE* Administrator, which is analogous to root.

2. A user of account type "Administrator", who has *some* administrator
privileges.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message news:...
> On 12/07/2011, bad sector posted:
>> On 12/01/2011 06:01 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>> There have been numerous posts in this NG about the problem of Win7
>>> preventing changes to, or doing something with a file, because the
>>> person trying it does not have the correct permission, even if that
>>> person has administrator status.
>>>
>>> The way round this is normally said to be opening the file properties,
>>> going to the security tab, and changing the permissions settings. It
>>> isn't that easy and sometimes doesn't seem to work.
>>>
>>> Has anyone installed the registry hack given here which supposedly makes
>>> the whole process a lot easier?
>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...menu-in-vista/
>>>
>>>
>>> Reading the comments on that page and in the forum it seems to work for
>>> most people, but for others it doesn't and may even screw some things up.
>>>
>>> Anyone here who has installed and used it - successfully or not?
>>>
>
>> I haven't installed it yet but i don't understand how 'admin' does not have
>> rights do do as admin pleases? Is that the same as 'root' in linux or
>> something less?
>
> There are two different things.
>
> 1. *THE* Administrator, which is analogous to root.
>
> 2. A user of account type "Administrator", who has *some* administrator
> privileges.
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
>

I used to think that there was a difference between THE Administrator and AN administrator but I am not sure now.
According to this article they are equivalent:
"The built-in administrator account and a user administrator account have the same level of privileges."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser

On 12/08/2011, Dave-UK posted:
> "Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On 12/07/2011, bad sector posted:
>>> On 12/01/2011 06:01 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>> There have been numerous posts in this NG about the problem of Win7
>>>> preventing changes to, or doing something with a file, because the
>>>> person trying it does not have the correct permission, even if that
>>>> person has administrator status.
>>>>
>>>> The way round this is normally said to be opening the file properties,
>>>> going to the security tab, and changing the permissions settings. It
>>>> isn't that easy and sometimes doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone installed the registry hack given here which supposedly makes
>>>> the whole process a lot easier?
>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...menu-in-vista/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reading the comments on that page and in the forum it seems to work for
>>>> most people, but for others it doesn't and may even screw some things up.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone here who has installed and used it - successfully or not?
>>>>
>>
>>> I haven't installed it yet but i don't understand how 'admin' does not
>>> have rights do do as admin pleases? Is that the same as 'root' in linux
>>> or something less?
>>
>> There are two different things.
>>
>> 1. *THE* Administrator, which is analogous to root.
>>
>> 2. A user of account type "Administrator", who has *some* administrator
>> privileges.
>>
>> -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>>
>>

> I used to think that there was a difference between THE Administrator and AN
> administrator but I am not sure now. According to this article they are
> equivalent:
> "The built-in administrator account and a user administrator account have the
> same level of privileges."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser

That's definitely not so in my experience, or in most comments by
others that I have seen.

I have had to log in as Administrator more than once under Windows 7 to
accomplish some task or other that was not permitted under my user
account, which is of type Administrator (and is set up to require a
password, of course).

It has been months, however, so I can't remember what those tasks were.
Sorry, I wish I could.

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On 12/8/2011 4:15 AM, Dave-UK wrote:
>
> "Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On 12/07/2011, bad sector posted:
>>> On 12/01/2011 06:01 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>> There have been numerous posts in this NG about the problem of Win7
>>>> preventing changes to, or doing something with a file, because the
>>>> person trying it does not have the correct permission, even if that
>>>> person has administrator status.
>>>>
>>>> The way round this is normally said to be opening the file properties,
>>>> going to the security tab, and changing the permissions settings. It
>>>> isn't that easy and sometimes doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone installed the registry hack given here which supposedly
>>>> makes
>>>> the whole process a lot easier?
>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...menu-in-vista/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reading the comments on that page and in the forum it seems to work for
>>>> most people, but for others it doesn't and may even screw some
>>>> things up.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone here who has installed and used it - successfully or not?
>>>>
>>
>>> I haven't installed it yet but i don't understand how 'admin' does
>>> not have rights do do as admin pleases? Is that the same as 'root' in
>>> linux or something less?
>>
>> There are two different things.
>>
>> 1. *THE* Administrator, which is analogous to root.
>>
>> 2. A user of account type "Administrator", who has *some*
>> administrator privileges.
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>>
>>
>
> I used to think that there was a difference between THE Administrator
> and AN administrator but I am not sure now. According to this article
> they are equivalent:
> "The built-in administrator account and a user administrator account
> have the same level of privileges."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser
>
>
>
See this

http://www.windows7news.com/2009/02/...rator-account/

On 12/08/2011, Gene E. Bloch posted:
>> I used to think that there was a difference between THE Administrator and
>> AN administrator but I am not sure now. According to this article they are
>> equivalent:
>> "The built-in administrator account and a user administrator account have
>> the same level of privileges."
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser

> That's definitely not so in my experience, or in most comments by others that
> I have seen.

Here's an article that supports my statement:
http://www.tech-forums.net/pc/f127/a...ws-7-a-197772/

At the same time, there are articles, including at Microsoft's site,
which contradict my position.

I still think I'm right, but my case is weaker :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 18:23:25 -0600, Bob I wrote:
>
> On 12/8/2011 4:15 AM, Dave-UK wrote:
> > I used to think that there was a difference between THE Administrator
> > and AN administrator but I am not sure now. According to this article
> > they are equivalent:
> > "The built-in administrator account and a user administrator account
> > have the same level of privileges."
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser
> >
> See this
>
> http://www.windows7news.com/2009/02/...rator-account/

That article concludes with: "Again, it is not really necessary to
enable the administrator account, as it is possible to use a standard
account with elevated rights for the same configuration options that
an administrators account would offer. And it is better for security
to not run an administrator account by default."

But if that is true, then why does "the administrator" account even
exist? If it can't do anything that I can't do when elevating
privilege, then what is its purpose?

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