Student copy

I am 51 and disabled, but I have always wanted to learn C. I have
always wanted to get the student discount on Windows. I notice that
the deal is for an upgrade. I want to build a machine so I am not
able to upgrade.

What is the best way to get Windows 7?

Also, my current machine has Windows 7 Home Premium. I already
discovered that I am limited in two ways. The first is not being able
to back up to a network drive and the second is not being able to run
in Win XP mode. Is the student copy what ever the unrestricted
version is?


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On 6/02/2011, Metspitzer posted:
> I am 51 and disabled, but I have always wanted to learn C. I have
> always wanted to get the student discount on Windows. I notice that
> the deal is for an upgrade. I want to build a machine so I am not
> able to upgrade.

> What is the best way to get Windows 7?

There might also be a discounted student price for the full version
(just guessing).

> Also, my current machine has Windows 7 Home Premium. I already
> discovered that I am limited in two ways. The first is not being able
> to back up to a network drive and the second is not being able to run
> in Win XP mode. Is the student copy what ever the unrestricted
> version is?

I expect the student copy is home premium, but you can find out as
easily as I can, I bet.

You *can* run XP on Home Premium if:

1. You have a valid (unused or uninstalled) full license for XP

2. You are willing to download and install VMware Player or Oracle
Virtual Box. Both are free.

I like the VMware better. Also - I haven't had good luck with the
Microsoft XP mode on this Win 7 Pro system - in fact, I wish I'd saved
a few dollars and stayed with Home Premium. Oh well...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:59:09 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
<> wrote:

>On 6/02/2011, Metspitzer posted:
>> I am 51 and disabled, but I have always wanted to learn C. I have
>> always wanted to get the student discount on Windows. I notice that
>> the deal is for an upgrade. I want to build a machine so I am not
>> able to upgrade.
>
>> What is the best way to get Windows 7?
>
>There might also be a discounted student price for the full version
>(just guessing).
>
>> Also, my current machine has Windows 7 Home Premium. I already
>> discovered that I am limited in two ways. The first is not being able
>> to back up to a network drive and the second is not being able to run
>> in Win XP mode. Is the student copy what ever the unrestricted
>> version is?
>
>I expect the student copy is home premium, but you can find out as
>easily as I can, I bet.
>
>You *can* run XP on Home Premium if:
>
>1. You have a valid (unused or uninstalled) full license for XP
>
>2. You are willing to download and install VMware Player or Oracle
>Virtual Box. Both are free.
>
>I like the VMware better. Also - I haven't had good luck with the
>Microsoft XP mode on this Win 7 Pro system - in fact, I wish I'd saved
>a few dollars and stayed with Home Premium. Oh well...

Thanks.

On 03/06/2011 04:59, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On 6/02/2011, Metspitzer posted:
>> I am 51 and disabled, but I have always wanted to learn C. I have
>> always wanted to get the student discount on Windows. I notice that
>> the deal is for an upgrade. I want to build a machine so I am not
>> able to upgrade.
>
>> What is the best way to get Windows 7?
>
> There might also be a discounted student price for the full version
> (just guessing).
>
>> Also, my current machine has Windows 7 Home Premium. I already
>> discovered that I am limited in two ways. The first is not being able
>> to back up to a network drive and the second is not being able to run
>> in Win XP mode. Is the student copy what ever the unrestricted
>> version is?
>
> I expect the student copy is home premium, but you can find out as
> easily as I can, I bet.
>
> You *can* run XP on Home Premium if:
>
> 1. You have a valid (unused or uninstalled) full license for XP

In true M$ tradition. Buy 2 licences for 1 computer! Brilliant! That's
the way to make money for M$! Like having your cake and eating it too!
--
choro
*****

PS. MS stands for MicroSoft but M$ stands for MegaBucks!

>
> 2. You are willing to download and install VMware Player or Oracle
> Virtual Box. Both are free.
>
> I like the VMware better. Also - I haven't had good luck with the
> Microsoft XP mode on this Win 7 Pro system - in fact, I wish I'd saved a
> few dollars and stayed with Home Premium. Oh well...
>

On 6/2/2011 11:06 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
> I am 51 and disabled, but I have always wanted to learn C. I have
> always wanted to get the student discount on Windows. I notice that
> the deal is for an upgrade. I want to build a machine so I am not
> able to upgrade.
>
> What is the best way to get Windows 7?
>
> Also, my current machine has Windows 7 Home Premium. I already
> discovered that I am limited in two ways. The first is not being able
> to back up to a network drive and the second is not being able to run
> in Win XP mode. Is the student copy what ever the unrestricted
> version is?
>
>
> --
> O'Neil to General Hammond:
> For the record Sir, I wanted to blow it the hell up.

I usually go to newegg.com, and buy a full win 7 pro version, either OEM
or retail. You may be able to buy a "bundle" that can save a bit on a
build your own.

If you really want to learn "C", MS has a "free" but somewhat limited
version of MS C++ or whatever the current version is. At various times
the free version has been feature or time limited.

My all-time favorite was "Power C", but those days are long gone.

Metspitzer wrote:
> I am 51 and disabled, but I have always wanted to learn C. I have
> always wanted to get the student discount on Windows. I notice that
> the deal is for an upgrade. I want to build a machine so I am not
> able to upgrade.
>
> What is the best way to get Windows 7?
>
> Also, my current machine has Windows 7 Home Premium. I already
> discovered that I am limited in two ways. The first is not being able
> to back up to a network drive and the second is not being able to run
> in Win XP mode. Is the student copy what ever the unrestricted
> version is?

Are you sure you can't come up with a way to do a backup,
without the build-in backup function ? I'm not an expert on
backup software, and haven't reviewed them. But take a look
around, and it's possible you can find a replacement more
to your liking.

http://www.macrium.com/ReflectFree.asp

Not having a WinXP mode is a nuisance, but the pricing
of the different Windows 7 versions, makes it more like
buying an OS, when you buy a high enough version to get WinXP
mode.

You say you've always wanted to learn C. If you use one of the
tools Gene suggested (virtual machine software), combined with
a free Linux distro, you get a GCC compiler with that. And it's
a perfectly good environment for writing C programs. With a virtual
machine, you're running two OSes at the same time. (Windows 7
is your host, while the Linux OS would be a "guest" in the virtual
machine.)

An important feature in a virtual environment, would be desktop
integration. For example, drag and drop of files from one environment
to the other, is pretty important. And having the copy/paste buffer
work between environments is also important. When I use Linux
in VPC2007, those features are broken. But it's possible another
brand of virtual machine, does a better job of that.

The mere process of getting around the limitations placed on
you by Microsoft, is an education in itself :-)

Paul

Metspitzer wrote:
> I am 51 and disabled, but I have always wanted to learn C. I have
> always wanted to get the student discount on Windows. I notice that
> the deal is for an upgrade. I want to build a machine so I am not
> able to upgrade.
>
> What is the best way to get Windows 7?
>
> Also, my current machine has Windows 7 Home Premium. I already
> discovered that I am limited in two ways. The first is not being
> able to back up to a network drive and the second is not being able
> to run in Win XP mode. Is the student copy what ever the
> unrestricted version is?

I have the academic (student) version of Windows 7 installed. Mine is
"Windows 7 Ultimate x64," but I don't know if all academic releases are
the same. While it is an upgrade version, it is possible to install it
on a virgin machine. Basically, you have to install it twice. First, do
a custom install from the bootable DVD, but DO NOT ACTIVATE. Then install
it again as an upgrade to the first installation. Now you can go through
the registration/activation process. There is another method involving
diddling with the registry, but I have not tried it. I strongly recommend
doing a Google search for "clean install windows 7 upgrade" and reading
several different tips. I don't classify myself as an expert. Just
lucky. :-)
--
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 23:06:18 -0400, Metspitzer wrote:

> I am 51 and disabled, but I have always wanted to learn C. I have
> always wanted to get the student discount on Windows. I notice that the
> deal is for an upgrade. I want to build a machine so I am not able to
> upgrade.
>
> What is the best way to get Windows 7?
>
> Also, my current machine has Windows 7 Home Premium. I already
> discovered that I am limited in two ways. The first is not being able
> to back up to a network drive and the second is not being able to run in
> Win XP mode. Is the student copy what ever the unrestricted version is?

I don't see anywhere that you actually claim to qualify for a student
discount.

There used to be folks who would sell an OEM version for a lesser price
with virtually any piece of hardware - don't know if that's still true.

Another option would be to use a free Linux distribution which will cost
you nothing and comes with C/C++ compiler and a lot of other included
software.

On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 23:06:18 -0400, Metspitzer wrote:

> I am 51 and disabled, but I have always wanted to learn C. I have
> always wanted to get the student discount on Windows. I notice that the
> deal is for an upgrade. I want to build a machine so I am not able to
> upgrade.
>
> What is the best way to get Windows 7?
>
> Also, my current machine has Windows 7 Home Premium. I already
> discovered that I am limited in two ways. The first is not being able
> to back up to a network drive and the second is not being able to run in
> Win XP mode. Is the student copy what ever the unrestricted version is?

I don't see anywhere that you actually claim to qualify for a student
discount.

There used to be folks who would sell an OEM version for a lesser price
with virtually any piece of hardware - don't know if that's still true.

Another option would be to use a free Linux distribution which will cost
you nothing and comes with C/C++ compiler and a lot of other included
software.

On 6/2/2011 8:59 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On 6/02/2011, Metspitzer posted:
>> I am 51 and disabled, but I have always wanted to learn C. I have
>> always wanted to get the student discount on Windows. I notice that
>> the deal is for an upgrade. I want to build a machine so I am not
>> able to upgrade.
>
>> What is the best way to get Windows 7?
>
> There might also be a discounted student price for the full version
> (just guessing).
>
>> Also, my current machine has Windows 7 Home Premium. I already
>> discovered that I am limited in two ways. The first is not being able
>> to back up to a network drive and the second is not being able to run
>> in Win XP mode. Is the student copy what ever the unrestricted
>> version is?
>
> I expect the student copy is home premium, but you can find out as
> easily as I can, I bet.
>
> You *can* run XP on Home Premium if:
>
> 1. You have a valid (unused or uninstalled) full license for XP
>
> 2. You are willing to download and install VMware Player or Oracle
> Virtual Box. Both are free.
>
> I like the VMware better. Also - I haven't had good luck with the
> Microsoft XP mode on this Win 7 Pro system - in fact, I wish I'd saved a
> few dollars and stayed with Home Premium. Oh well...
>

What kind of problems are you having. I'm running XP Mode on my Win 7
Pro machine and so far everything I've tired to run on it works.

Knock on wood. :-)


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