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In news:,
Char Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:16:29 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
> <> wrote:
>
>> On 12/01/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>>> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:46:45 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
>>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>> The voice of reason...in the wilderness :-)
>>>>
>>>> I have other thoughts in mind, but it seems prudent to drop it all
>>>> and just go quietly back to my lemming encampment.
>>
>>> I predicted it would quickly become exhausting and he proved me
>>> right. I can deal with ignorance and I can somewhat deal with
>>> stubbornness, but when someone is clueless and determined to stay
>>> that way it just wears me down. I may need to seek out a lemming
>>> bar to get a refreshing lemming drink. :-)
>>
>> Lemmingade?
>
> I wasn't sure at the time. It could have been lemmingade or perhaps
> tea with a wedge of lemming. In the end it was more mundane - just a
> regular Coke (in the white can) with no lemming at all.

If you are such an expert. why don't you answer any questions? Like if
Windows updates are as important as you claim, why does it take
Microsoft sometimes 2 years or so to plug known holes? I claim Microsoft
does so because they know secretly that security updates is not the way
to secure a system. And thus why they set such a low priority for them.

So what is your reason? I am open to suggestions. But you have not had
anything at all. Not good for an intelligent discussion. So what do you
really know? So you totally ignore the evidence. Nobody who is truthful
ignores the evidence. At least I can't think of any reason. If you are
not truthful, well then there are tons of reasons then.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

On 01/12/2011 5:28 PM, BillW50 wrote:
Char Wrote:
>> The primary threat used to be that your data would be lost as a result
>> > of malware, so in years past keeping your security profile current was
>> > an attempt to safeguard your data. Current malware rarely takes that
>> > approach, preferring instead to make sure the PC owner never notices
>> > anything amiss while the malware mines personal data or lies in wait
>> > to be commanded as part of a botnet.
> All made possible due to recent updates. As Microsoft can only monitor
> and know about your system only if you have installed the latest
> updates.

Nonsense.

Wolf K.

On 01/12/2011 9:27 PM, BillW50 wrote:
[snip]
> I must say it is fascinating studying you less knowledgeable people.
> Although it is always fascinating why lemmings all jump off of the cliff
> together too. If common sense was truly common, there would be no such
> thing as lemmings, now would there be?

Well, now we have the explicit expression of the "I'm superior to all
you lesser mortals" fantasy.

I've seen this before. So far, it's been mildly entertaining, but if you
guys encourage Bill by trying to help him cure his ignorance, it will
get nasty.

Wolf K.

On 01 Dec 2011, Wolf K <> wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

> On 01/12/2011 5:28 PM, BillW50 wrote:
>> All made possible due to recent updates. As Microsoft can only
>> monitor and know about your system only if you have installed the
>> latest updates.
>
> Nonsense.

Now he finally reveals his real motivation: paranoia.

In news:W7YBq.23502$,
Wolf K wrote:
> On 01/12/2011 5:28 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> Char Wrote:
>>> The primary threat used to be that your data would be lost as a
>>> result
>>>> of malware, so in years past keeping your security profile
>>>> current was an attempt to safeguard your data. Current malware
>>>> rarely takes that approach, preferring instead to make sure the
>>>> PC owner never notices anything amiss while the malware mines
>>>> personal data or lies in wait to be commanded as part of a botnet.
>> All made possible due to recent updates. As Microsoft can only
>> monitor and know about your system only if you have installed the
>> latest updates.
>
> Nonsense.
>
> Wolf K.

Prove it Wolf! Without proof, it won't be allowed in a court of law.
Which I am sure you want to avoid. But people who are not smart, won't
go anyway.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

On 12/01/2011, Char Jackson posted:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:16:29 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
> <> wrote:

>> On 12/01/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>>> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:46:45 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
>>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>> The voice of reason...in the wilderness :-)
>>>>
>>>> I have other thoughts in mind, but it seems prudent to drop it all and
>>>> just go quietly back to my lemming encampment.
>>> I predicted it would quickly become exhausting and he proved me right.
>>> I can deal with ignorance and I can somewhat deal with stubbornness,
>>> but when someone is clueless and determined to stay that way it just
>>> wears me down. I may need to seek out a lemming bar to get a
>>> refreshing lemming drink. :-)
>>
>> Lemmingade?

> I wasn't sure at the time. It could have been lemmingade or perhaps
> tea with a wedge of lemming. In the end it was more mundane - just a
> regular Coke (in the white can) with no lemming at all.

OK, you drink a greater variety of stuff than I do & even know about,
which is why I showed such a lack of imagination. :-)

Now tell me why my Android phone sometimes stops accepting touches on
part or all of its interface, and I will be happy. Reset to factory or
by an iPhone are about the only alternatives left, and I don't like
either one ;-)

Time to stop being silly and OT - I'm gonna go watch some TV & unwind
(but that's pretty silly and OT as well).

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 21:33:00 -0600, "BillW50" <> wrote:

>In news:,
>Char Jackson wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:16:29 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/01/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>>>> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:46:45 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The voice of reason...in the wilderness :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I have other thoughts in mind, but it seems prudent to drop it all
>>>>> and just go quietly back to my lemming encampment.
>>>
>>>> I predicted it would quickly become exhausting and he proved me
>>>> right. I can deal with ignorance and I can somewhat deal with
>>>> stubbornness, but when someone is clueless and determined to stay
>>>> that way it just wears me down. I may need to seek out a lemming
>>>> bar to get a refreshing lemming drink. :-)
>>>
>>> Lemmingade?
>>
>> I wasn't sure at the time. It could have been lemmingade or perhaps
>> tea with a wedge of lemming. In the end it was more mundane - just a
>> regular Coke (in the white can) with no lemming at all.
>
>If you are such an expert. why don't you answer any questions?

Because I'd do a lot better by having this conversation with my dog.
At least she doesn't bring up irrational conspiracy theories at the
drop of a hat.

Are we done here?

--

Char Jackson

In news:2kYBq.15018$,
Wolf K wrote:
> On 01/12/2011 9:27 PM, BillW50 wrote:
> [snip]
>> I must say it is fascinating studying you less knowledgeable people.
>> Although it is always fascinating why lemmings all jump off of the
>> cliff together too. If common sense was truly common, there would be
>> no such thing as lemmings, now would there be?
>
> Well, now we have the explicit expression of the "I'm superior to all
> you lesser mortals" fantasy.

No! I am looking for intelligence. Show some signs of such and I am
good.

> I've seen this before. So far, it's been mildly entertaining, but if
> you guys encourage Bill by trying to help him cure his ignorance, it
> will get nasty.
>
> Wolf K.

Yet no evidence of your claims. How dumb can you be? You know how many
people in history can do nothing more than ad hominem attacks? You know
what Einstein would say:

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." ~
Albert Einstein

But you probably think Einstein was ignorant too. After all, he was
dyslexic and was kicked out of the German school system and was told he
was too stupid to do anything besides going to a trade school.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

On 12/01/2011, BillW50 posted:
>>> All made possible due to recent updates. As Microsoft can only
>>> monitor and know about your system only if you have installed the
>>> latest updates.
>>
>> Nonsense.
>>
>> Wolf K.

> Prove it Wolf! Without proof, it won't be allowed in a court of law. Which I
> am sure you want to avoid. But people who are not smart, won't go anyway.

It's a good thing for you that you are not required to provide proof. I
wish I were so lucky :-(

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

In news:,
Char Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 21:33:00 -0600, "BillW50" <> wrote:
>
>> In news:,
>> Char Jackson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:16:29 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/01/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>>>>> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:46:45 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The voice of reason...in the wilderness :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have other thoughts in mind, but it seems prudent to drop it
>>>>>> all and just go quietly back to my lemming encampment.
>>>>
>>>>> I predicted it would quickly become exhausting and he proved me
>>>>> right. I can deal with ignorance and I can somewhat deal with
>>>>> stubbornness, but when someone is clueless and determined to stay
>>>>> that way it just wears me down. I may need to seek out a lemming
>>>>> bar to get a refreshing lemming drink. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Lemmingade?
>>>
>>> I wasn't sure at the time. It could have been lemmingade or perhaps
>>> tea with a wedge of lemming. In the end it was more mundane - just a
>>> regular Coke (in the white can) with no lemming at all.
>>
>> If you are such an expert. why don't you answer any questions?
>
> Because I'd do a lot better by having this conversation with my dog.
> At least she doesn't bring up irrational conspiracy theories at the
> drop of a hat.
>
> Are we done here?

Dogs are great lemmings. And you are a damn good lemming. So yes, you
two are perfect. I totally understand why you can't comment about why
Microsoft sometimes takes about two years to plug a security hole
(nothing to do with conspiracy theories). After all, anybody who doesn't
know what they are talking about can't.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3