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      01-06-2010
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But the forums haven't been - just need to see all the problems people are having getting their W7 new software working correctly. They should have spent much longer getting W7 working "out the box" on 99% of all PC's with the minimum spec requirements so there would be no need to release a Service Pack to correct Errors and Bugs in the Official Release. But that Micro$oft for you....
The VAST majority of Windows 7 users have not had these problems. Any new OS regardless will some bugs, etc., on them. That's what the updates are for. As other posters have stated, some of these installs are with "modified" installs DL from torrent sites and such.

When I installed Windows 7 on my new hardware, it wasn't the OS giving me issues as it was my learning how to tweak the BIOS just right and other settings.

A lot of issues are happening because many with install problems have more than one hard drive in their systems. FOR SOME REASON, and why this is baffles me, but Windows 7 is VERY picky when there are more than one hard drive present. I just disconnect the extra drives, install the OS and then hook them back up and it's all good.

The other major reason for a lot of the install issues is because people are doing "upgrade" installs rather than clean installs. In my opinion, this because they don't want to go to the trouble of re-installing all the programs they have, or because they don't want to lose data, photos, documents, etc. That is why I have had external hard drives for over 6 years now, to keep what I want to keep separate from the OS.

Sure, it's time consuming to do a clean install (actually the clean install only takes about 15 minutes) it's the re-installation of the other software that takes time. BUT, the system will run SO MUCH better with a clean install versus an upgrade install.

I look at it this way... it takes over an hour or more to do an upgrade install. A clean install takes about 15 minutes and then about an hour for the Windows Updates (about 10 minutes) and the installation of the remaining software and drivers. So it basically equals out in the end and the clean install is much happier setup.
 
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But the forums haven't been - just need to see all the problems people are having getting their W7 new software working correctly. They should have spent much longer getting W7 working "out the box" on 99% of all PC's with the minimum spec requirements so there would be no need to release a Service Pack to correct Errors and Bugs in the Official Release. But that Micro$oft for you....
Yes, I agree that there's a lot of people on the forums looking for help. But had those prople bought new, or at least ran the Upgrade Advisor regarding their venture into Windows 7, the large majority of these problems would have been avoided. Sure, I understand that everyone cannot afford a new computer, but at least they can properly prepare for the install. It's a lot more to it than opening the DVD player, inserting the Win 7 install disc, restarting and hurrying to hit the F12 button to boot off the disc. There's a helluva lot more to it than that. Backing up your files, doing a FULL format, having a driver disc for your computer and having a plan of action in place. I've been doing installs and reinstalls for 7 or 8 years, and if done properly, the result will be positive, provided there was a plan in place. And Hardware: No matter how much preparation you do, if your hardware is inadequate, the install will not produce the desired results. I see a lot of that here. There is no "out of the box" or service pack to fix that. But people will go for it anyway, and post on here their problems, when they knew that most XP & below needs some new parts for the OS to work. And you can't blame Microsoft for these issues that I brought up. Plain & Simple.
 
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      01-06-2010
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I just disconnect the extra drives, install the OS and then hook them back up and it's all good.
And me, as I posted in another thread - simple task to re-map your drives if it doesn't do it automatically.

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The other major reason for a lot of the install issues is because people are doing "upgrade" installs rather than clean installs. In my opinion, this because they don't want to go to the trouble of re-installing all the programs they have, or because they don't want to lose data, photos, documents, etc.
Agree - Upgrades are/can be a nightmare - as no guarantee it is going to work if it messes up - you could loose everything unless you have the OS on its own drive. I have seen it happen with XP to Vista with months of using File recovery software to try to recover important files...

For me I prefer New (full) on a new drive than upgrades.

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That is why I have had external hard drives for over 6 years now, to keep what I want to keep separate from the OS.
And me - I now use USB HDD and multi HDD. C drive has just the OS and some Core software I use daily. Other drives for Data, Video, Linux etc... I also very much like Portable Apps as they aren't connected to any of the OS folder structure.
 
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I also very much like Portable Apps as they aren't connected to any of the OS folder structure
I like Portable Apps as well and this site may interest you

Link > http://www.portablefreeware.com/
 
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