Sorting of files in new HDD.

I have Windows 7 and I have just installed a new HDD to store movies
each typically of a length 4GB.

The new HDD is a WD
IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
IDE\WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________
WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
GenDisk


With the other HDDs the sorting by name is automatic, but with this
new one I have to do it manually. Is there any setting to fix this?

Peter

On 27/11/2011 22:59, Peter Jason wrote:
> I have Windows 7 and I have just installed a new HDD to store movies
> each typically of a length 4GB.
>
> The new HDD is a WD
> IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
> IDE\WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
> IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________
> WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
> GenDisk
>
>
> With the other HDDs the sorting by name is automatic, but with this
> new one I have to do it manually. Is there any setting to fix this?
>
> Peter

That's done by Windows, but you have to tell it to do so.
View/ Sort by Name.


Ed

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:59:03 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>
> I have Windows 7 and I have just installed a new HDD to store movies
> each typically of a length 4GB.
>
> The new HDD is a WD
> IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
> IDE\WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
> IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________
> WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
> GenDisk
>
>
> With the other HDDs the sorting by name is automatic, but with this
> new one I have to do it manually. Is there any setting to fix this?

In what context do you mean? If it's the "dir" command at the
command prompt, then I think you formatted it as FAT32, or it was
shipped that way and you didn't reformat it. One cure for that is to
convert it to NTFS(*); another is simply to train yourself to use DIR
/ONE instead of plain DIR.

If you mean the display in Windows Explorer, this has nothing to do
with how the disk is set up. Right-click and select Sort by*» Name.

(*) Like any other reformat of the disk, there's a small but non-zero
chance of losing your data. Make sure you have a reliable backup
first.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 19:15:30 -0500, Stan Brown
<> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:59:03 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>
>> I have Windows 7 and I have just installed a new HDD to store movies
>> each typically of a length 4GB.
>>
>> The new HDD is a WD
>> IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
>> IDE\WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
>> IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________
>> WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
>> GenDisk
>>
>>
>> With the other HDDs the sorting by name is automatic, but with this
>> new one I have to do it manually. Is there any setting to fix this?
>
>In what context do you mean? If it's the "dir" command at the
>command prompt, then I think you formatted it as FAT32, or it was
>shipped that way and you didn't reformat it. One cure for that is to
>convert it to NTFS(*); another is simply to train yourself to use DIR
>/ONE instead of plain DIR.
>
>If you mean the display in Windows Explorer, this has nothing to do
>with how the disk is set up. Right-click and select Sort by*» Name.
>
>(*) Like any other reformat of the disk, there's a small but non-zero
>chance of losing your data. Make sure you have a reliable backup
>first.

Thanks.
I formatted it with Windows as NTFS as always with a new HDD.
Specifically, when I trim a movie recorded from TV and save that file,
it stays in the position saved by the trimming software instead of
moving up to its sorted position in the Movies folder. I'll try
again tomorrow when I process tonight's recorded movies.
Peter

On 11/27/2011 6:45 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 19:15:30 -0500, Stan Brown
> <> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:59:03 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>> I have Windows 7 and I have just installed a new HDD to store movies
>>> each typically of a length 4GB.
>>>
>>> The new HDD is a WD
>>> IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
>>> IDE\WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
>>> IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________
>>> WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
>>> GenDisk
>>>
>>>
>>> With the other HDDs the sorting by name is automatic, but with this
>>> new one I have to do it manually. Is there any setting to fix this?
>>
>> In what context do you mean? If it's the "dir" command at the
>> command prompt, then I think you formatted it as FAT32, or it was
>> shipped that way and you didn't reformat it. One cure for that is to
>> convert it to NTFS(*); another is simply to train yourself to use DIR
>> /ONE instead of plain DIR.
>>
>> If you mean the display in Windows Explorer, this has nothing to do
>> with how the disk is set up. Right-click and select Sort by » Name.
>>
>> (*) Like any other reformat of the disk, there's a small but non-zero
>> chance of losing your data. Make sure you have a reliable backup
>> first.
>
> Thanks.
> I formatted it with Windows as NTFS as always with a new HDD.
> Specifically, when I trim a movie recorded from TV and save that file,
> it stays in the position saved by the trimming software instead of
> moving up to its sorted position in the Movies folder. I'll try
> again tomorrow when I process tonight's recorded movies.
> Peter
>

Press F5 to refresh the view

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:45:09 +1100, Peter Jason <> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 19:15:30 -0500, Stan Brown
><> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:59:03 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>> I have Windows 7 and I have just installed a new HDD to store movies
>>> each typically of a length 4GB.
>>>
>>> The new HDD is a WD
>>> IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
>>> IDE\WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
>>> IDE\DiskWDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________
>>> WDC_WD1003FBYX-01Y7B0___________________01.01V01
>>> GenDisk
>>>
>>>
>>> With the other HDDs the sorting by name is automatic, but with this
>>> new one I have to do it manually. Is there any setting to fix this?
>>
>>In what context do you mean? If it's the "dir" command at the
>>command prompt, then I think you formatted it as FAT32, or it was
>>shipped that way and you didn't reformat it. One cure for that is to
>>convert it to NTFS(*); another is simply to train yourself to use DIR
>>/ONE instead of plain DIR.
>>
>>If you mean the display in Windows Explorer, this has nothing to do
>>with how the disk is set up. Right-click and select Sort by*» Name.
>>
>>(*) Like any other reformat of the disk, there's a small but non-zero
>>chance of losing your data. Make sure you have a reliable backup
>>first.
>
>Thanks.
>I formatted it with Windows as NTFS as always with a new HDD.
>Specifically, when I trim a movie recorded from TV and save that file,
>it stays in the position saved by the trimming software instead of
>moving up to its sorted position in the Movies folder. I'll try
>again tomorrow when I process tonight's recorded movies.

Is the folder simply not auto-refreshing, in which case a manual
refresh will do the trick, or is it a case of having the folder sorted
by file creation date/time, in which case simply clicking on the Name
field header will cause a Name sort? Or is it something else?

--

Char Jackson

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:45:09 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>
> Specifically, when I trim a movie recorded from TV and save that file,
> it stays in the position saved by the trimming software instead of
> moving up to its sorted position in the Movies folder. I'll try
> again tomorrow when I process tonight's recorded movies.
> Peter
>

New files do often show at the end of the list. Try pressing F5.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:10:27 -0500, Stan Brown
<> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:45:09 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>
>> Specifically, when I trim a movie recorded from TV and save that file,
>> it stays in the position saved by the trimming software instead of
>> moving up to its sorted position in the Movies folder. I'll try
>> again tomorrow when I process tonight's recorded movies.
>> Peter
>>
>
>New files do often show at the end of the list. Try pressing F5.

Thanks
The F5 trick works OK, but it was all automatic with the other HDD.
Peter

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:02:43 +1100, Peter Jason <> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:10:27 -0500, Stan Brown
><> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:45:09 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>> Specifically, when I trim a movie recorded from TV and save that file,
>>> it stays in the position saved by the trimming software instead of
>>> moving up to its sorted position in the Movies folder. I'll try
>>> again tomorrow when I process tonight's recorded movies.
>>> Peter
>>>
>>
>>New files do often show at the end of the list. Try pressing F5.
>
>Thanks
>The F5 trick works OK, but it was all automatic with the other HDD.

I agree with the folks who said it has nothing to do with the HDD. I
hope you get it figured out.

--

Char Jackson

On 11/28/2011, Char Jackson posted:
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:02:43 +1100, Peter Jason <> wrote:

>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:10:27 -0500, Stan Brown
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:45:09 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, when I trim a movie recorded from TV and save that file,
>>>> it stays in the position saved by the trimming software instead of
>>>> moving up to its sorted position in the Movies folder. I'll try
>>>> again tomorrow when I process tonight's recorded movies.
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>
>>> New files do often show at the end of the list. Try pressing F5.
>>
>> Thanks
>> The F5 trick works OK, but it was all automatic with the other HDD.

> I agree with the folks who said it has nothing to do with the HDD.

+1

> I hope you get it figured out.

Probably not...

For emphasis, then: the problem is with the newer version of Windows
Explorer, and it's a display problem in the program, not a drive
problem.

Actually, I'm amused by the picture of files "sorted" on the hard
drive. Heck, some later allocation units of a given file can be in
earlier locations on the hard drive than some of its earlier allocation
units - and not just in Windows...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)