Re: Problems with Firefox

<snip>
>This isn't a Windows issue, so it's off topic... but you know that
>already.

I disagree. Many questions are asked and answered here where the problem may or may not be an OS
question. The poster is having an issue running application in Win 7. Until the solution is known,
one can't say there is not some setting in Windows that can resolve the issue. Even it not a Win 7
issue, the group consist of Win 7 users and as such someone may be able to help... and after all
isn't that what the group is for? If you don't want to answer all you have to do is keep quiet.

On 23 Jun 2011, wrote in alt.windows7.general:

> I disagree. Many questions are asked and answered here where the
> problem may or may not be an OS question. The poster is having an
> issue running application in Win 7. Until the solution is known,
> one can't say there is not some setting in Windows that can
> resolve the issue.

I know enough about Windows and Firefox to tell from the description
that this is a Firefox issue, not a Windows issue.

> Even it not a Win 7 issue, the group consist of
> Win 7 users and as such someone may be able to help... and after
> all isn't that what the group is for? If you don't want to answer
> all you have to do is keep quiet.

I have an itchy bum. All you Windows users, what shall I do? What shall
I do??


btw, your newsreader is defective. It broke the threading of this
conversation.

On 6/23/2011, Nil posted:
> On 23 Jun 2011, wrote in alt.windows7.general:

>> I disagree. Many questions are asked and answered here where the
>> problem may or may not be an OS question. The poster is having an
>> issue running application in Win 7. Until the solution is known,
>> one can't say there is not some setting in Windows that can
>> resolve the issue.

> I know enough about Windows and Firefox to tell from the description
> that this is a Firefox issue, not a Windows issue.

>> Even it not a Win 7 issue, the group consist of
>> Win 7 users and as such someone may be able to help... and after
>> all isn't that what the group is for? If you don't want to answer
>> all you have to do is keep quiet.

> I have an itchy bum. All you Windows users, what shall I do? What shall
> I do??


> btw, your newsreader is defective. It broke the threading of this
> conversation.

It did it twice...

Apparently this newsreader (MesNews) doesn't use the subject when the
reference headers are absent. Or it does and I can't figure out how to
do it -- but only for the moment, since it's time to take the rest of
the day off :-)

But I made one test first: I brought up Dialog, where I see that the
thread isn't broken.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 06/23/2011 06:07 PM, wrote:
> <snip>
>> This isn't a Windows issue, so it's off topic... but you know that
>> already.
>
> I disagree. Many questions are asked and answered here where the problem may or may not be an OS
> question. The poster is having an issue running application in Win 7. Until the solution is known,
> one can't say there is not some setting in Windows that can resolve the issue. Even it not a Win 7
> issue, the group consist of Win 7 users and as such someone may be able to help... and after all
> isn't that what the group is for? If you don't want to answer all you have to do is keep quiet.

Hi Chet,

+1. I agree with Chet completely and very well said. This is
a place to help people.


Hi Rick,

Your profile is probably screwed up. With Firefox off, go into
%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming, find "Mozilla" and rename it.
(You want to keep it around under another name so you can copy
your bookmarks back later.) Then restart Firefox: it will create a
new profile. This should fix it. Then set your homepage to a
site with no or harmless Java scripts in it.

Be careful with IE, it is a virus magnet.

HTH,
-T

On 23 Jun 2011, Gene E. Bloch <> wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

> It did it twice...
>
> Apparently this newsreader (MesNews) doesn't use the subject when
> the reference headers are absent. Or it does and I can't figure
> out how to do it -- but only for the moment, since it's time to
> take the rest of the day off :-)
>
> But I made one test first: I brought up Dialog, where I see that
> the thread isn't broken.

My reader, Xnews, will attempt to make sense of a broken thread by
using the Subject and Date, I guess. But that's not the right way. A
well-made reader will preserve the References so threading is explicit,
not the newsreader's best guess.

On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:41:29 -0700, Todd <> wrote:

>Your profile is probably screwed up. With Firefox off, go into
>%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming, find "Mozilla" and rename it.

Easier way is to start Firefox with the -p switch, which brings up the
profile editor.

>(You want to keep it around under another name so you can copy
>your bookmarks back later.) Then restart Firefox: it will create a
>new profile. This should fix it. Then set your homepage to a
>site with no or harmless Java scripts in it.

--

Char Jackson

wrote:

> <snip>
>>This isn't a Windows issue, so it's off topic... but you know that
>>already.
>
> I disagree. Many questions are asked and answered here where the problem may or may not be an OS
> question. The poster is having an issue running application in Win 7. Until the solution is known,
> one can't say there is not some setting in Windows that can resolve the issue. Even it not a Win 7
> issue, the group consist of Win 7 users and as such someone may be able to help... and after all
> isn't that what the group is for? If you don't want to answer all you have to do is keep quiet.

Except you replied to the wrong post. You replied to Rick, the OP, who
asked for help, not to SC Tom. Could be a problem with your choice of
newsreader: NewsLeecher. It's probably geared to yanking attachments
from posts in binary groups than for participating in discussions.
GrabIt is like that: okay for yanking binaries but sucks for discussion.
Notice NewsLeecher doesn't even bother to insert the References header
needed to properly thread the posts in a discussion to show their
hierarchy. Without the References header, all a newsreader has for
threading is the Subject header, and that means a flat setup instead of
a hierarchy of posts into threads (so your reply looks like it was to
the Rick and not to SC Tom).

If you intend on participating in discussions then use a newsreader that
adds the References header. The References header was defined in RFC
822 way back in 1982. There's no excuse your newsreader doesn't include
it in your replies. Newsleecher is a crappy news*writer*. It was
designed to be a news*reader*. And yet they have the gall to charge $20
for this grot. I didn't think there was a worse newsreader than Outlook
Express but I was wrong. Newsleecher is worse.

However, the whole thread is moot as Rick decided after waiting only 48
minutes (probably much less) that there would be no response to his post
in the Mozilla forum. Yeah, not long, but apparently Rick wasn't going
to wait for replies and wasn't really that interested in fixing the
problem with Firefox since he then decided to do none of the
troubleshooting mentioned here and uninstalled Firefox and returned to
IE as his web browser. He wanted instant gratification with no effort
on his part to diagnose the problem so anything we suggested was a waste
of our time. The OP is gone and now using IE. That's his immediate
solution.

On 06/23/2011 10:45 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> apparently Rick wasn't going
> to wait for replies

Ah poop. This one was a fun/interesting one and I was hoping
he would let us know what he did. I love solving mysteries and
love to see the solution unfold.

"VanguardLH" <> wrote in message
news:iu182u$mc2$...
> wrote:
>
>> >
> He wanted instant gratification with no effort
> on his part to diagnose the problem so anything we suggested was a waste
> of our time. The OP is gone and now using IE. That's his immediate
> solution.
>

I wasn't seeking 'instant gratification' as you put it, merely a browser
that worked, at least until such time as I could maybe reinstall a properly
working version of Firefox."
I've tried Todd's suggestion of renaming the Mozilla file in roaming,
unfortunately it won't allow me to do this, it simply produces an error
message which says "The action can't be completed because the folder or a
file is open in another program, close the folder or file and try again".
I've made absolutely certain that no other programs are running and had a
similar message when I was trying to uninstall it from 'programmes and
features' in the control panel.
The suggestion linking it to AVG sounded promising as it's always been a bit
overpowering IMV, it also hasn't updated for a while, just giving a 'general
error' warning with no indication of why or what to do about it, maybe I
should look for an alternative.

On 6/24/2011 5:25 AM, Rick wrote:
>
> "VanguardLH" <> wrote in message
> news:iu182u$mc2$...
>> wrote:
>>
>>> >
>> He wanted instant gratification with no effort
>> on his part to diagnose the problem so anything we suggested was a waste
>> of our time. The OP is gone and now using IE. That's his immediate
>> solution.
>>
>
> I wasn't seeking 'instant gratification' as you put it, merely a browser
> that worked, at least until such time as I could maybe reinstall a
> properly working version of Firefox."
> I've tried Todd's suggestion of renaming the Mozilla file in roaming,
> unfortunately it won't allow me to do this, it simply produces an error
> message which says "The action can't be completed because the folder or
> a file is open in another program, close the folder or file and try again".
> I've made absolutely certain that no other programs are running and had
> a similar message when I was trying to uninstall it from 'programmes and
> features' in the control panel.
> The suggestion linking it to AVG sounded promising as it's always been a
> bit overpowering IMV, it also hasn't updated for a while, just giving a
> 'general error' warning with no indication of why or what to do about
> it, maybe I should look for an alternative.

Try booting into the Windows "SAFE" mode and see if the uninstaller runs
for you. Also while in that mode you may be able to rename/delete items
that were otherwise locked by an anti-virus or other intrusive program.