Ratarded OS

<rant>
I left the Windows Live Essential Update KB2434419 run all night and it
still hadn't progressed but maybe 1/8 of the way, so I cancelled it. Lo and
behold, when I closed the update window, there was another windows hidden
behind it asking if I wanted to update the whole Live Essentials Suite or
just the parts of it that were previously installed. So why did that window
not appear on *TOP* of the update window where you could SEE the
f&%k*#ing thing?!!!

And why is Bill Gates running around giving our money away instead of
giving some of it back to us!
</rant>

On 4/6/2011 10:36 AM, Chief Scratchum wrote:
> <rant>
> I left the Windows Live Essential Update KB2434419 run all night and it
> still hadn't progressed but maybe 1/8 of the way, so I cancelled it. Lo and
> behold, when I closed the update window, there was another windows hidden
> behind it asking if I wanted to update the whole Live Essentials Suite or
> just the parts of it that were previously installed. So why did that window
> not appear on *TOP* of the update window where you could SEE the
> f&%k*#ing thing?!!!

Look at the Task Bar to see what is running. If a Windows was being
displayed but it was hidden from view by another window, it's going to
be on the Task Bar -- look at it. The window asking you for a response
should have been highlighted in the Task Bar too.
>
> And why is Bill Gates running around giving our money away instead of
> giving some of it back to us!
> </rant>
>

Operator error rant, you should look in the mirror.

On 04/06/11 10:36 am, Chief Scratchum wrote:

> <rant>
> I left the Windows Live Essential Update KB2434419 run all night and it
> still hadn't progressed but maybe 1/8 of the way, so I cancelled it. Lo and
> behold, when I closed the update window, there was another windows hidden
> behind it asking if I wanted to update the whole Live Essentials Suite or
> just the parts of it that were previously installed. So why did that window
> not appear on *TOP* of the update window where you could SEE the
> f&%k*#ing thing?!!!
>
> And why is Bill Gates running around giving our money away instead of
> giving some of it back to us!
> </rant>

That happened to me today with the IE9 installation.

Perce

Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
> On 04/06/11 10:36 am, Chief Scratchum wrote:
>
>> <rant> I left the Windows Live Essential Update KB2434419 run all
>> night and it still hadn't progressed but maybe 1/8 of the way, so I
>> cancelled it. Lo and behold, when I closed the update window,
>> there was another windows hidden behind it asking if I wanted to
>> update the whole Live Essentials Suite or just the parts of it that
>> were previously installed. So why did that window not appear on
>> *TOP* of the update window where you could SEE the f&%k*#ing
>> thing?!!!
>>
>> And why is Bill Gates running around giving our money away instead
>> of giving some of it back to us! </rant>
>
> That happened to me today with the IE9 installation.

When things seem to be hung up like that, I move the relevant window
aside to see if there is something hidden behind it.
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:39:27 +0200, Alias wrote:

> On 04/06/2011 05:30 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
>> Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>>> On 04/06/11 10:36 am, Chief Scratchum wrote:
>>>
>>>> <rant> I left the Windows Live Essential Update KB2434419 run all
>>>> night and it still hadn't progressed but maybe 1/8 of the way, so I
>>>> cancelled it. Lo and behold, when I closed the update window, there
>>>> was another windows hidden behind it asking if I wanted to update the
>>>> whole Live Essentials Suite or just the parts of it that were
>>>> previously installed. So why did that window not appear on *TOP* of
>>>> the update window where you could SEE the f&%k*#ing thing?!!!
>>>>
>>>> And why is Bill Gates running around giving our money away instead of
>>>> giving some of it back to us! </rant>
>>>
>>> That happened to me today with the IE9 installation.
>>
>> When things seem to be hung up like that, I move the relevant window
>> aside to see if there is something hidden behind it.
>
> So do I.

Seems to me that one shouldn't have to do that on a modern OS.

On 4/6/2011 11:53 AM, ray wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:39:27 +0200, Alias wrote:
>
>> On 04/06/2011 05:30 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
>>> Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>>>> On 04/06/11 10:36 am, Chief Scratchum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <rant> I left the Windows Live Essential Update KB2434419 run all
>>>>> night and it still hadn't progressed but maybe 1/8 of the way, so I
>>>>> cancelled it. Lo and behold, when I closed the update window, there
>>>>> was another windows hidden behind it asking if I wanted to update the
>>>>> whole Live Essentials Suite or just the parts of it that were
>>>>> previously installed. So why did that window not appear on *TOP* of
>>>>> the update window where you could SEE the f&%k*#ing thing?!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> And why is Bill Gates running around giving our money away instead of
>>>>> giving some of it back to us!</rant>
>>>>
>>>> That happened to me today with the IE9 installation.
>>>
>>> When things seem to be hung up like that, I move the relevant window
>>> aside to see if there is something hidden behind it.
>>
>> So do I.
>
> Seems to me that one shouldn't have to do that on a modern OS.

Total nonsense, the application was waiting for a user response. How in
the hell could the application be hung, if the applications is waiting
for a user response? And besides, all one has to do in look at the Task
Bar to see what is running.

On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 11:57:58 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 4/6/2011 11:53 AM, ray wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:39:27 +0200, Alias wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/06/2011 05:30 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
>>>> Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>>>>> On 04/06/11 10:36 am, Chief Scratchum wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> <rant> I left the Windows Live Essential Update KB2434419 run all
>>>>>> night and it still hadn't progressed but maybe 1/8 of the way, so I
>>>>>> cancelled it. Lo and behold, when I closed the update window, there
>>>>>> was another windows hidden behind it asking if I wanted to update
>>>>>> the whole Live Essentials Suite or just the parts of it that were
>>>>>> previously installed. So why did that window not appear on *TOP* of
>>>>>> the update window where you could SEE the f&%k*#ing thing?!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And why is Bill Gates running around giving our money away instead
>>>>>> of giving some of it back to us!</rant>
>>>>>
>>>>> That happened to me today with the IE9 installation.
>>>>
>>>> When things seem to be hung up like that, I move the relevant window
>>>> aside to see if there is something hidden behind it.
>>>
>>> So do I.
>>
>> Seems to me that one shouldn't have to do that on a modern OS.
>
> Total nonsense, the application was waiting for a user response. How in
> the hell could the application be hung, if the applications is waiting
> for a user response? And besides, all one has to do in look at the Task
> Bar to see what is running.

Seems to me that one shouldn't have to do that for a system update on a
modern OS.

On 06/04/2011 4:53 PM, ray wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:39:27 +0200, Alias wrote:
>
>> On 04/06/2011 05:30 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
>>> Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>>>> On 04/06/11 10:36 am, Chief Scratchum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <rant> I left the Windows Live Essential Update KB2434419 run all
>>>>> night and it still hadn't progressed but maybe 1/8 of the way, so I
>>>>> cancelled it. Lo and behold, when I closed the update window, there
>>>>> was another windows hidden behind it asking if I wanted to update the
>>>>> whole Live Essentials Suite or just the parts of it that were
>>>>> previously installed. So why did that window not appear on *TOP* of
>>>>> the update window where you could SEE the f&%k*#ing thing?!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> And why is Bill Gates running around giving our money away instead of
>>>>> giving some of it back to us!</rant>
>>>>
>>>> That happened to me today with the IE9 installation.
>>>
>>> When things seem to be hung up like that, I move the relevant window
>>> aside to see if there is something hidden behind it.
>>
>> So do I.
>
> Seems to me that one shouldn't have to do that on a modern OS.

Because you don't know what you're talking about you would say that
wouldn't you?

The IE icon in the taskbar is highlighted and changes colour to indicate
it needs a response.

Clueless!!

On 4/6/2011 12:15 PM, ray wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 11:57:58 -0400, Big Steel wrote:
>
>> On 4/6/2011 11:53 AM, ray wrote:
>>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:39:27 +0200, Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/06/2011 05:30 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
>>>>> Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/06/11 10:36 am, Chief Scratchum wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <rant> I left the Windows Live Essential Update KB2434419 run all
>>>>>>> night and it still hadn't progressed but maybe 1/8 of the way, so I
>>>>>>> cancelled it. Lo and behold, when I closed the update window, there
>>>>>>> was another windows hidden behind it asking if I wanted to update
>>>>>>> the whole Live Essentials Suite or just the parts of it that were
>>>>>>> previously installed. So why did that window not appear on *TOP* of
>>>>>>> the update window where you could SEE the f&%k*#ing thing?!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And why is Bill Gates running around giving our money away instead
>>>>>>> of giving some of it back to us!</rant>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That happened to me today with the IE9 installation.
>>>>>
>>>>> When things seem to be hung up like that, I move the relevant window
>>>>> aside to see if there is something hidden behind it.
>>>>
>>>> So do I.
>>>
>>> Seems to me that one shouldn't have to do that on a modern OS.
>>
>> Total nonsense, the application was waiting for a user response. How in
>> the hell could the application be hung, if the applications is waiting
>> for a user response? And besides, all one has to do in look at the Task
>> Bar to see what is running.
>
> Seems to me that one shouldn't have to do that for a system update on a
> modern OS.

What? That something requiring a user response to proceed is going to be
halted until it gets a response to proceed or not?

Yeah there are a whole lot of things that are modern. Just because
something is modern does it mean they all work the same way?

On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 10:54:05 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

> On 4/6/2011 10:36 AM, Chief Scratchum wrote:
>> <rant>
>> I left the Windows Live Essential Update KB2434419 run all night and it
>> still hadn't progressed but maybe 1/8 of the way, so I cancelled it. Lo and
>> behold, when I closed the update window, there was another windows hidden
>> behind it asking if I wanted to update the whole Live Essentials Suite or
>> just the parts of it that were previously installed. So why did that window
>> not appear on *TOP* of the update window where you could SEE the
>> f&%k*#ing thing?!!!
>
> Look at the Task Bar to see what is running. If a Windows was being
> displayed but it was hidden from view by another window, it's going to
> be on the Task Bar -- look at it. The window asking you for a response
> should have been highlighted in the Task Bar too.
>>
>> And why is Bill Gates running around giving our money away instead of
>> giving some of it back to us!
>> </rant>
>>
>
> Operator error rant, you should look in the mirror.

I agree there's some indication somewhere that there is a window / dialog
waiting for input, but, the OP has a valid point. These dialog boxes should
take focus and be placed on top of any open windows. It's how XP worked, 2K
worked, AFAICR, 9x worked NT worked, and 3 worked. It is not unreasonable
for the OP to assume 7 should work that way as well.

For me it was an initial annoyance, but not a big deal. One begins to see
the blinking icon in the taskbar almost peripherally and knows what it
means.


--
HK