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Yep, I've had PSU's well over 5yrs old, some getting on for 8 in some of my older builds. Warranty to me speaks of confidence by the maker in their product.

Your choice. I'll toss mine within three years. I'd blame consumerism.

That's not very smart or very economical. You must have "consumerism" very bad to toss a perfectly good PSU after three years. So apparently the "Madison Ave" hype worked.

If it a quality PSU built by a reputable manufacturer there is no reason just to toss it. Since they're constructed of solid-state components they should last quite a while.

Me too! I have several computers that are pushing 10 years old, with original PSUs. When I buy a PSU, I buy expecting the PSU to last many years through several hardware changes and upgrades.

In days past, as it is today, that has ALWAYS been an invalid test. Always! Weight has absolutely no bearing on the "quality" of a PSU, transformer, heat sink or capacitor. Weights may differ because one has longer wires. Steel case instead of aluminum. Two fans instead of one. More vents. Less vents. Aluminum heatsinks or copper. Two or four rails instead of one. Hard wired or modular. 400W or 750W. None of those variables (and those are just a few) are indications of "quality". Do not judge a PSU by its weight unless your goal is to build the heaviest or lightest PC.

I'll disagree with you on this one, but everyone has their own opinion.

Then tell us something that makes sense. Educate us. Show us where heavier means "better quality". I'm not going by opinion. I am going by technical facts. How does a steel case denote "better quality" over a lighter weight aluminum case?

How does a power supply which weighs more because it has modular cables (which are heavier than cables with no connections) denote "better quality"?

How does a PSU that weighs more because it is 750 watt supply (and contains a larger transformer) denote "better quality" because it is heavier than a 500 watt supply with a smaller transformer?

How does a PSU with 4 12V rails which requires a larger "tapped" transformer, more components, and a more complex design denote "better quality" than a PSU with a single rail design with no taps, fewer parts, and less complex design?

Show us something that says the weight of a capacitor is an indication of "better quality".

There are too many variables in the making of PSUs to use weight as a determining factor for quality.

Ever since the introduction of transistors and other solid state devices in consumer electronics, an ever present goal of design has been to make devices smaller, lighter and more efficient. That's no different with power supplies.

Sometimes your posts would be more useful if you put a positive spin on them.

It appears you have a massive chip on your shoulder. The grumpy duck avatar fits you well!

How about some Runza recipes instead?

So when you can't defend your position, you deflect and launch personal attacks? That's a very mature, professional, and informative approach you have there.

I stand my position: you cannot measure the quality of a PSU by it's weight. If you could, I am sure a product's marketing departments would be advertising their PSUs are the heaviest around.

And you know what makes me grumpy? People proclaiming to be experts who make technical claims they are unwilling to substantiate, or when unable to substantiate, are unwilling to admit they erred.

To back up my point about weight and such, from WikiHOW

Source: http://www.wikihow.com/Buy-a-Power-Supply

There you have it! Point made to backup what I stated: the quality of the power supply was judged by its weight too, signifying quality transformer, heat sinks, filtering capacitors, etc., and it still holds true today.

I have dealt with electronics for over 45 years and the above statement held true back then as it does today.

Now about those Runza recipes...