"Out of Memory" error.

Win7 SP1

When transcoding a DVD I got the error "out of
memory". I use Nero 8.

I cold booted the computer and this fixed it.

Is there a way to "free up" this memory without a
boot operation. I typically cold boot only once
per week.

Peter

On 13/07/2012 11:16 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
> Win7 SP1
>
> When transcoding a DVD I got the error "out of
> memory". I use Nero 8.
>
> I cold booted the computer and this fixed it.
>
> Is there a way to "free up" this memory without a
> boot operation. I typically cold boot only once
> per week.
>
> Peter

You may receive an "Out of Memory" error message because of the desktop
heap limitation in Windows Vista or in Windows 7
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947246

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 00:08:41 -0400, Yousuf Khan
<> wrote:

>On 13/07/2012 11:16 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>> Win7 SP1
>>
>> When transcoding a DVD I got the error "out of
>> memory". I use Nero 8.
>>
>> I cold booted the computer and this fixed it.
>>
>> Is there a way to "free up" this memory without a
>> boot operation. I typically cold boot only once
>> per week.
>>
>> Peter
>
>You may receive an "Out of Memory" error message because of the desktop
>heap limitation in Windows Vista or in Windows 7
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947246


Thanks, I'll check it out. I did have many apps
going at once.

Peter

I've transcoded 4 blu-ray movies at the same time and never got such a
message. Time for a new computer.

Yousuf Khan wrote:

> On 13/07/2012 11:16 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
> > Win7 SP1
> >
> > When transcoding a DVD I got the error "out of
> > memory". I use Nero 8.
> >
> > I cold booted the computer and this fixed it.
> >
> > Is there a way to "free up" this memory without a
> > boot operation. I typically cold boot only once
> > per week.
> >
> > Peter
>
> You may receive an "Out of Memory" error message because of the desktop
> heap limitation in Windows Vista or in Windows 7
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947246

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Peter Jason wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 00:08:41 -0400, Yousuf Khan
> <> wrote:
>
>> On 13/07/2012 11:16 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> Win7 SP1
>>>
>>> When transcoding a DVD I got the error "out of
>>> memory". I use Nero 8.
>>>
>>> I cold booted the computer and this fixed it.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to "free up" this memory without a
>>> boot operation. I typically cold boot only once
>>> per week.
>>>
>>> Peter
>> You may receive an "Out of Memory" error message because of the desktop
>> heap limitation in Windows Vista or in Windows 7
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947246
>
>
> Thanks, I'll check it out. I did have many apps
> going at once.
>
> Peter

For fun, you can run the Resource Monitor. And watch
it, while your transcoding process runs.

Click the memory tab.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ce_Monitor.png

Paul

Paul wrote:
> Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 00:08:41 -0400, Yousuf Khan
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/07/2012 11:16 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> Win7 SP1
>>>>
>>>> When transcoding a DVD I got the error "out of
>>>> memory". I use Nero 8.
>>>>
>>>> I cold booted the computer and this fixed it.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to "free up" this memory without a
>>>> boot operation. I typically cold boot only once
>>>> per week.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>> You may receive an "Out of Memory" error message because of the
>>> desktop heap limitation in Windows Vista or in Windows 7
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947246
>>
>>
>> Thanks, I'll check it out. I did have many apps
>> going at once.
>>
>> Peter
>
> For fun, you can run the Resource Monitor. And watch
> it, while your transcoding process runs.
>
> Click the memory tab.
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ce_Monitor.png
>
>
> Paul

Sorry, hit the send before including the picture of the memory tab.

http://www.sevenforums.com/attachmen...memory_tab.jpg

Resource Monitor doesn't tell you everything, but it's a start.

If you look for "Sysinternals", "Mark Russinovich", "PoolMon",
or even articles on WinDBG, there may be ways to probe further into
memory usage. But it's not something I know well enough, to
write a book on. Ideally, you want the Nero program to give you
a better error message, to save wasted efforts with other tools
(to tell what kind of memory it ran out of). There are multiple
memory resources in the OS, and some are a lot smaller than
others. Yousuf has given you one example.

Paul

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:16:19 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:
>
> Win7 SP1
>
> When transcoding a DVD I got the error "out of
> memory". I use Nero 8.
>
> I cold booted the computer and this fixed it.
>
> Is there a way to "free up" this memory without a
> boot operation. I typically cold boot only once
> per week.

"Cold boot" means to shut down power, wait a few seconds, and then
restart. Did you do that, or did you click the start button and then
Restart? The latter should be sufficient.

The problem is that programs are often sloppily written: they get
resources from Windows and then fail to return them. "Out of
memory" doesn't necessarily mean RAM and virtual memory on disk; it
can also mean other system resources. A restart frees up everything.

That said, you should probably check virtual memory to make sure that
it is system managed. It's not easy to find: Computer*» Properties*»
Advanced system settings*» Advanced*» Performance*» Settings*»
Advanced*» Change*» Automatically manage paging file size for all
drives.

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 00:08:41 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> You may receive an "Out of Memory" error message because of the desktop
> heap limitation in Windows Vista or in Windows 7
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947246
>

That's a good find; thanks! I've always rather vaguely said "system
resources", but this is much more specific.

Anyone know of other such resource limitations, particularly if they
can be adjusted?

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 04:26:44 -0400, Paul
<> wrote:

>Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 00:08:41 -0400, Yousuf Khan
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/07/2012 11:16 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> Win7 SP1
>>>>
>>>> When transcoding a DVD I got the error "out of
>>>> memory". I use Nero 8.
>>>>
>>>> I cold booted the computer and this fixed it.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to "free up" this memory without a
>>>> boot operation. I typically cold boot only once
>>>> per week.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>> You may receive an "Out of Memory" error message because of the desktop
>>> heap limitation in Windows Vista or in Windows 7
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947246
>>
>>
>> Thanks, I'll check it out. I did have many apps
>> going at once.
>>
>> Peter
>
>For fun, you can run the Resource Monitor. And watch
>it, while your transcoding process runs.
>
>Click the memory tab.
>
>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ce_Monitor.png
>
> Paul

Thanks, I have tried this when transcoding but for
Nero8 the CPU never goes above about 25% (i7
6core) total.

However when I transcode with the Adobe
PremierProCS4 (home movies etc) the dials all slam
up against the 100% mark, and I have to put the
CPU fan up to 'high'.

Maybe its just the number of applications on the
go at once.

Peter