nVidia driver upgrade...?

Hi, Hachiroku.

As a Dell field tech, I'm sure you understand that we need more error
description than just "bluescreen". :>(

What was the Stop Code? What was the "something about nVidia..." message?
Have you asked nVidia about this result from their new driver?

RC
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"Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク" wrote in message
news:4dabaf0c$0$27461$c3e8da3$...

Hey. I am a Dell field tech. I have a homemade unit with an nVidia 8800GT
(ASUS) video card, and after installing W7 I did the upgrades, and one of
them was a newer version nVidia driver, from Microsoft. After the upgrade
the system just kept rebooting. Now fully aware of WTF was going on, I did
a fresh install, did the upgrades again and...

I got called out to look at a desktop system, and the guy said it just
kept rebooting. Managed to get it into Safe Mode just fine, and then he
said "When it Bluescreened, it said something about nVidia..."

Luckily, he had rollback set up, so we did a rollback to just before the
last update and the system worked just fine. I set the rollback point, did
another update and...bluescreen. This time I saw the nVidia module error
myself. We did the rollback, rebooted, and then set the system so that any
further updates would NOT automatically install.

Last week, I did another one.

Doesn't anyone at Microsoft know about this? I don't know what video chip
he was using, but I know it happens on the 8600, 8800, and FX570 from
personal experience.

Hey. I am a Dell field tech. I have a homemade unit with an nVidia 8800GT
(ASUS) video card, and after installing W7 I did the upgrades, and one of
them was a newer version nVidia driver, from Microsoft. After the upgrade
the system just kept rebooting. Now fully aware of WTF was going on, I did
a fresh install, did the upgrades again and...

I got called out to look at a desktop system, and the guy said it just
kept rebooting. Managed to get it into Safe Mode just fine, and then he
said "When it Bluescreened, it said something about nVidia..."

Luckily, he had rollback set up, so we did a rollback to just before the
last update and the system worked just fine. I set the rollback point, did
another update and...bluescreen. This time I saw the nVidia module error
myself. We did the rollback, rebooted, and then set the system so that any
further updates would NOT automatically install.

Last week, I did another one.

Doesn't anyone at Microsoft know about this? I don't know what video chip
he was using, but I know it happens on the 8600, 8800, and FX570 from
personal experience.

Hi

On the: 18. of april-2011 At: 10:57 wrote:

>
> Get your nVidia drivers from nVidia, not Microsoft. They're available at
> www.nvidia.com. Dell must be desperate if they hire someone as clueless
> as you.

The way people talk tells a lot about how credible they are and
I'm sorry to say, but You kind of failed in that department.

Best regards
Asger-P

"Asger-P" wrote in message newsp.vt4ntztx2juju3@ajwin7...


Hi

On the: 18. of april-2011 At: 10:57 wrote:

>
> Get your nVidia drivers from nVidia, not Microsoft. They're available at
> www.nvidia.com. Dell must be desperate if they hire someone as clueless
> as you.

The way people talk tells a lot about how credible they are and
I'm sorry to say, but You kind of failed in that department.

Maybe some of his posts have failed but not this one.
No knowledgeable tech would use MS drivers when drivers are
available on the OEM site.

Tom L

On 4/18/2011 6:15 AM, Tom Lake wrote:
> "Asger-P" wrote in message newsp.vt4ntztx2juju3@ajwin7...
>
>
> Hi
>
> On the: 18. of april-2011 At: 10:57 wrote:
>
>>
>> Get your nVidia drivers from nVidia, not Microsoft. They're available
>> at www.nvidia.com. Dell must be desperate if they hire someone as
>> clueless as you.
>
> The way people talk tells a lot about how credible they are and
> I'm sorry to say, but You kind of failed in that department.
>
> Maybe some of his posts have failed but not this one.
> No knowledgeable tech would use MS drivers when drivers are
> available on the OEM site.
>
> Tom L

If there is a large difference in driver revs, it can be necessary to
revert to the MSoft VGA/SVGA driver, and uninstall the older Nvidia/Ati
(as appropriate) video driver before you install the new driver. Both
ATI and Nvidia refer to this in some of the FAQs and notes.

Another issue that I've run into from time to time has to do with
registry entries, particularly when switching from a Microsoft or OEM
driver to the Video card Mfr's drivers.

Also, Laptops can be quite troublesome when the laptop OEM no longer
updates the video driver, and the video chipset mfr is the only source
for updated drivers.

On 11-04-18 01:25 AM, Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク wrote:
> Last week, I did another one.
>
> Doesn't anyone at Microsoft know about this? I don't know what video chip
> he was using, but I know it happens on the 8600, 8800, and FX570 from
> personal experience.

No, Microsoft doesn't know about this, because Windows is too
complicated for them to figure out by themselves anymore. They might
have been still in control back in the days of MS-DOS, but the years and
years of spaghetti code that's been added to Windows has taken a life of
its own. That's the lesson of closed-source software development.

Just last month I spent pretty much the whole month trying to get SP1 to
install on my system. It made my system unbootable several times, and I
had to restore from backups several times. Finally the only way I could
get SP1 to install properly on the system was to do an In-Place Upgrade
of Windows 7, which removed all of Microsoft's patches and put the
system back to the state it was in at original install. Then I could put
SP1 on it: I had to remove all of Microsoft's patches so I could install
all of Microsoft's patches! I expect I'll have a similar struggle
whenever SP2 comes out.

Yousuf Khan

On 11-04-18 06:15 AM, Tom Lake wrote:
> Maybe some of his posts have failed but not this one.
> No knowledgeable tech would use MS drivers when drivers are
> available on the OEM site.

Not really, the drivers that Microsoft provides through its Update site
are those that the manufacturer themselves have offered up as being
stable and passing the Microsoft certification process. Nvidia has a new
driver up every few weeks, but it only offers a new certified driver to
Microsoft every few months. They weren't written by Microsoft.

Yousuf Khan

"Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク" <> wrote in message
news:4dabaf0c$0$27461$c3e8da3$...
> Hey. I am a Dell field tech. I have a homemade unit with an nVidia 8800GT
> (ASUS) video card, and after installing W7 I did the upgrades, and one of
> them was a newer version nVidia driver, from Microsoft. After the upgrade
> the system just kept rebooting. Now fully aware of WTF was going on, I did
> a fresh install, did the upgrades again and...
>
> I got called out to look at a desktop system, and the guy said it just
> kept rebooting. Managed to get it into Safe Mode just fine, and then he
> said "When it Bluescreened, it said something about nVidia..."
>
> Luckily, he had rollback set up, so we did a rollback to just before the
> last update and the system worked just fine. I set the rollback point, did
> another update and...bluescreen. This time I saw the nVidia module error
> myself. We did the rollback, rebooted, and then set the system so that any
> further updates would NOT automatically install.
>
> Last week, I did another one.
>
> Doesn't anyone at Microsoft know about this? I don't know what video chip
> he was using, but I know it happens on the 8600, 8800, and FX570 from
> personal experience.

I have a NVIDIA Geforce 8600GT in my Dell dimension 9200 and it updated
fine with the driver from Microsoft on 1st April 2011 The driver version is
8.17.12.6724 release date February 2011.

No blue screen here.

Trevor wrote:
>
> "Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク" <> wrotein message
> news:4dabaf0c$0$27461$c3e8da3$...
>> Hey. I am a Dell field tech. I have a homemade unit with an nVidia 8800GT
>> (ASUS) video card, and after installing W7 I did the upgrades, and oneof
>> them was a newer version nVidia driver, from Microsoft. After the upgrade
>> the system just kept rebooting. Now fully aware of WTF was going on, I
>> did
>> a fresh install, did the upgrades again and...
>>
>> I got called out to look at a desktop system, and the guy said it just
>> kept rebooting. Managed to get it into Safe Mode just fine, and then he
>> said "When it Bluescreened, it said something about nVidia..."
>>
>> Luckily, he had rollback set up, so we did a rollback to just before the
>> last update and the system worked just fine. I set the rollback point,
>> did
>> another update and...bluescreen. This time I saw the nVidia module error
>> myself. We did the rollback, rebooted, and then set the system so that
>> any
>> further updates would NOT automatically install.
>>
>> Last week, I did another one.
>>
>> Doesn't anyone at Microsoft know about this? I don't know what video chip
>> he was using, but I know it happens on the 8600, 8800, and FX570 from
>> personal experience.
>
> I have a NVIDIA Geforce 8600GT in my Dell dimension 9200 and it updated
> fine with the driver from Microsoft on 1st April 2011 The driver version is
> 8.17.12.6724 release date February 2011.
>
> No blue screen here.

Ditto with GeForce 9600 on generic computer, same driver version and date.
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:24:19 +0200, Alias
<.¡nval¡d> wrote:

>On 04/18/2011 02:56 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> On 11-04-18 01:25 AM, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>> Last week, I did another one.
>>>
>>> Doesn't anyone at Microsoft know about this? I don't know what video chip
>>> he was using, but I know it happens on the 8600, 8800, and FX570 from
>>> personal experience.
>>
>> No, Microsoft doesn't know about this, because Windows is too
>> complicated for them to figure out by themselves anymore. They might
>> have been still in control back in the days of MS-DOS, but the years and
>> years of spaghetti code that's been added to Windows has taken a life of
>> its own. That's the lesson of closed-source software development.
>>
>> Just last month I spent pretty much the whole month trying to get SP1 to
>> install on my system. It made my system unbootable several times, and I
>> had to restore from backups several times. Finally the only way I could
>> get SP1 to install properly on the system was to do an In-Place Upgrade
>> of Windows 7, which removed all of Microsoft's patches and put the
>> system back to the state it was in at original install. Then I could put
>> SP1 on it: I had to remove all of Microsoft's patches so I could install
>> all of Microsoft's patches! I expect I'll have a similar struggle
>> whenever SP2 comes out.
>>
>> Yousuf Khan
>
>Funny, I installed it on three machines, two laptops and a desktop and
>had no problems. What did I do wrong, Yousuf?

Well do us all a big favor and go and install Explorer 9, and let us
know how well you've done....ha ha ha!