install the windows XP mode.

I am using windows 7 ultimate, to run software I had on my XP machine
do I have to install the windows XP mode.

Frank

In news:,
wrote:
> I am using windows 7 ultimate, to run software I had on my XP machine
> do I have to install the windows XP mode.

Hi Frank! I dunno, but I do have a question for you. As everything I
have read and heard about XP Mode, it isn't a very good emulation of XP.
So I am curious why some even bother? Or is it more like you want to see
it for yourself? And if so, could you report your findings on it too?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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> I am using windows 7 ultimate, to run software I had on my XP machine
> do I have to install the windows XP mode.

Depends on the software in question. If 16bit, then 100% yes.

"BillW50" <> wrote in message
news:iphh0k$773$...
> In news:,
> wrote:
>> I am using windows 7 ultimate, to run software I had on my XP machine
>> do I have to install the windows XP mode.
>
> Hi Frank! I dunno, but I do have a question for you. As everything I have
> read and heard about XP Mode, it isn't a very good emulation of XP. So I
> am curious why some even bother? Or is it more like you want to see it for
> yourself? And if so, could you report your findings on it too?

How can it not be a good emulation of XP? It is genuine XP.

In news:iphir5$spc$,
Seth wrote:
> "BillW50" <> wrote in message
> news:iphh0k$773$...
>> In news:,
>> wrote:
>>> I am using windows 7 ultimate, to run software I had on my XP
>>> machine do I have to install the windows XP mode.
>>
>> Hi Frank! I dunno, but I do have a question for you. As everything I
>> have read and heard about XP Mode, it isn't a very good emulation of
>> XP. So I am curious why some even bother? Or is it more like you
>> want to see it for yourself? And if so, could you report your
>> findings on it too?
>
> How can it not be a good emulation of XP? It is genuine XP.

Okay they said that about IBM's OS/2 Warp too. Although I still saw it
as an emulator. As OS/2 had to stop Windows 3.1 from gaining full
control. And lots of things that ran under Windows 3.1 didn't run well
or not at all under OS/2. And OS/2 used a copy of Windows 3.1 to pull it
off .And IBM had to pay Microsoft for every licensed copy too. Which is
funny in a way, since IBM told Microsoft one low figure, while they
bragged a much higher number to the press. Of course, Microsoft had
taken IBM to court and won. The truth never came out. But Microsoft
collected on the amount that IBM bragged about.

And lots of emulators uses the same code as the original OS anyway. That
is a common practice. I played with emulators over the years and they
are all of the same. Even Commodore emulators steals the original OS to
pull it off. Without stealing the original OS, the job becomes so much
tougher.

Now what I have heard about XP mode (correct me if I am wrong), is that
it runs slower than running XP on the same machine (no surprise to me,
all emulators have the same problem). XP mode is also stuck with some
really odd resolution (that really surprised me and I didn't expect to
hear this). Not all XP drivers work (no surprised to me). Not all XP
software works (no surprise). And not all XP features work (again no
surprise).

So to me, it looks like an emulator, walks like an emulator, and talks
like an emulator. So I don't care what people call it, as I call it an
emulator. ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

"BillW50" <> wrote in message
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> In news:iphir5$spc$,
> Seth wrote:
>> "BillW50" <> wrote in message
>> news:iphh0k$773$...
>>> In news:,
>>> wrote:
>>>> I am using windows 7 ultimate, to run software I had on my XP
>>>> machine do I have to install the windows XP mode.
>>>
>>> Hi Frank! I dunno, but I do have a question for you. As everything I
>>> have read and heard about XP Mode, it isn't a very good emulation of
>>> XP. So I am curious why some even bother? Or is it more like you
>>> want to see it for yourself? And if so, could you report your
>>> findings on it too?
>>
>> How can it not be a good emulation of XP? It is genuine XP.
>
> Okay they said that about IBM's OS/2 Warp too. Although I still saw it as
> an emulator. As OS/2 had to stop Windows 3.1 from gaining full control.
> And lots of things that ran under Windows 3.1 didn't run well or not at
> all under OS/2. And OS/2 used a copy of Windows 3.1 to pull it off .And
> IBM had to pay Microsoft for every licensed copy too. Which is funny in a
> way, since IBM told Microsoft one low figure, while they bragged a much
> higher number to the press. Of course, Microsoft had taken IBM to court
> and won. The truth never came out. But Microsoft collected on the amount
> that IBM bragged about.
>
> And lots of emulators uses the same code as the original OS anyway. That
> is a common practice. I played with emulators over the years and they are
> all of the same. Even Commodore emulators steals the original OS to pull
> it off. Without stealing the original OS, the job becomes so much tougher.
>
> Now what I have heard about XP mode (correct me if I am wrong), is that it
> runs slower than running XP on the same machine (no surprise to me, all
> emulators have the same problem). XP mode is also stuck with some really
> odd resolution (that really surprised me and I didn't expect to hear
> this). Not all XP drivers work (no surprised to me). Not all XP software
> works (no surprise). And not all XP features work (again no surprise).
>
> So to me, it looks like an emulator, walks like an emulator, and talks
> like an emulator. So I don't care what people call it, as I call it an
> emulator. ;-)

It's not an emulator. The closest you might come (out of the box) on
Windows 7 to something akin to an emulator would be like parsing a VBS file
through the CSCRIPT engine. XP Mode is "virtualized". It's like running XP
in a VMWare session. TO do that you setup a VMWare environment, create a
virtual machine that actually boots from a real XP CD (or an ISO of a XP)
and you actually install XP into the VM.

XP Mode is just a pre-configured and licensed (the above scenario requires
an XP license, XP Mode on Win7 the license is included at no additional
cost) that ones doesn't have to go through all the steps I mention above.

Yes it runs slower than XP installed on the same bare metal, that's because
now the hardware is essentially running 2 operating systems at once.

So, you can call it an emulator all you want, but you'll be wrong. An
emulator is a different beast entirely. Maybe you can loosely call what a
64b machine does to run 32b code (using WOW64) an emulator. Or what XP32
(and Win7 32) does to run 16 code (again, WOW, which stands for Windows on
Windows), but XP Mode is not an emulator.

What OS/2 did to run Windows application, that was emulation. What Linux
does to run Windows apps (WINE) is emulation.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:30:58 -0500, "BillW50" <> wrote:

>In news:,
> wrote:
>> I am using windows 7 ultimate, to run software I had on my XP machine
>> do I have to install the windows XP mode.
>
>Hi Frank! I dunno, but I do have a question for you. As everything I
>have read and heard about XP Mode, it isn't a very good emulation of XP.
>So I am curious why some even bother? Or is it more like you want to see
>it for yourself? And if so, could you report your findings on it too?
>Bill I would like to run Photoshop cs2 it won't run on Windows 7.


Bill I would like to run Photoshop cs2 it won't run on Windows 7.

In news:,
wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:30:58 -0500, "BillW50" <> wrote:
>
>> In news:,
>> wrote:
>>> I am using windows 7 ultimate, to run software I had on my XP
>>> machine do I have to install the windows XP mode.
>>
>> Hi Frank! I dunno, but I do have a question for you. As everything I
>> have read and heard about XP Mode, it isn't a very good emulation of
>> XP. So I am curious why some even bother? Or is it more like you
>> want to see it for yourself? And if so, could you report your
>> findings on it too? Bill I would like to run Photoshop cs2 it won't
>> run on Windows 7.
>
> Bill I would like to run Photoshop cs2 it won't run on Windows 7.

Well okay. There are a few things I like to run under Windows 7 too,
which doesn't. Although I wouldn't get your hopes up too high. As it
might run Photoshop CS2 under XP Mode, but there will be no doubt some
sacrifices.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

<> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:30:58 -0500, "BillW50" <> wrote:
>
>>In news:,
>> wrote:
>>> I am using windows 7 ultimate, to run software I had on my XP machine
>>> do I have to install the windows XP mode.
>>
>>Hi Frank! I dunno, but I do have a question for you. As everything I
>>have read and heard about XP Mode, it isn't a very good emulation of XP.
>>So I am curious why some even bother? Or is it more like you want to see
>>it for yourself? And if so, could you report your findings on it too?
>>Bill I would like to run Photoshop cs2 it won't run on Windows 7.
>
>
> Bill I would like to run Photoshop cs2 it won't run on Windows 7.

Don't listen to Bill about XP Mode. He is giving you bad information. Go
to this link to learn about it and download it:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir...c/default.aspx

>
> Okay they said that about IBM's OS/2 Warp too. Although I still saw it as
> an emulator. As OS/2 had to stop Windows 3.1 from gaining full control.
> And lots of things that ran under Windows 3.1 didn't run well or not at
> all under OS/2. And OS/2 used a copy of Windows 3.1 to pull it off .And
> IBM had to pay Microsoft for every licensed copy too. Which is funny in a
> way, since IBM told Microsoft one low figure, while they bragged a much
> higher number to the press. Of course, Microsoft had taken IBM to court
> and won. The truth never came out. But Microsoft collected on the amount
> that IBM bragged about.
>
> And lots of emulators uses the same code as the original OS anyway. That
> is a common practice. I played with emulators over the years and they are
> all of the same. Even Commodore emulators steals the original OS to pull
> it off. Without stealing the original OS, the job becomes so much tougher.
>
> Now what I have heard about XP mode (correct me if I am wrong), is that it
> runs slower than running XP on the same machine (no surprise to me, all
> emulators have the same problem). XP mode is also stuck with some really
> odd resolution (that really surprised me and I didn't expect to hear
> this). Not all XP drivers work (no surprised to me). Not all XP software
> works (no surprise). And not all XP features work (again no surprise).
>
> So to me, it looks like an emulator, walks like an emulator, and talks
> like an emulator. So I don't care what people call it, as I call it an
> emulator. ;-)

The rest of the world calls it what it is. A Virtual Machine, or just VM.
In this case it IS XP. It does NOT look like, walk like or talk like an
emulator!

Chris