IE 9 with RoboForm

On 6/06/2011, VanguardLH posted:
> Gene E. Bloch wrote:

>> And I don't want anyone else automatically logging in to my Amazon
>> account unless I'm there to slap their wrist with a ruler. I wouldn't
>> even tell them the name of the program I use, much less let it pop up
>> by itself.
>>
>> It's true that the problem is not too real here - the only ones besides
>> me that have access are either trusted people, burglars, or termites
>> :-)
>>
>> The program I use requires me to enter a master password before it does
>> anything. That's fine with me.

> Doesn't Roboform comply with Windows NT security standards in honoring
> separation of databases by user accounts (so one user account can't get
> at the stored logins saved under a different user account)?

I have no idea because I have no experience with RoboForm, and I'm too
lazy to research it :-)

Char Jackson, in his reply, points out an error of mine, due in part to
that very ignorance.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 6/07/2011, Char Jackson posted:
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:02:27 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
> <> wrote:

>> On 6/06/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:48:25 +0900, BobbyM <>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 6/6/2011 1:35 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:30:44 +0100, "Joan Archer"
>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I use RoboForm with IE9 on Windows 7 Home Premium and never had
>>>>>> problems. I do use the toolbar though as I find that much quicker than
>>>>>> going down to the notification area and then clicking on the RoboForm
>>>>>> Icon then click on Logins then click on the one you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The toolbar is not big and everything is there at once, just click the
>>>>>> Login button then the web site that you want to go too, much quicker.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious why you guys have to use the Roboform toolbar or the icon
>>>>> in the notification area. I disable both of those features and simply
>>>>> let Roboform pop up it's little window when I visit a URL that
>>>>> requires a login. A single click on 'Fill& Submit' does the trick.
>>>>> Doesn't that work anymore?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't tried that option, so can't say whether it works or not. I
>>>> visit a lot of sites with log ins. I don't want Roboform to pop up
>>>> every time I visit one of those.
>>
>>> Isn't that what it's for, though? Naturally, it only pops up for sites
>>> where you've saved login/pass data. Why wouldn't you want it to do
>>> what it's supposed to do? Just curious...
>>
>> Well, I often go to, oh, let's say Amazon, just to look at something.

> The vast majority of sites that I visit don't cause the login dialog
> to come up just by visiting the site, including Amazon. I think I
> remember two of about 300 of my saved sites that initially did that,
> but they were easy to configure away.

>> And I don't want anyone else automatically logging in to my Amazon
>> account unless I'm there to slap their wrist with a ruler. I wouldn't
>> even tell them the name of the program I use, much less let it pop up
>> by itself.
>>
>> It's true that the problem is not too real here - the only ones besides
>> me that have access are either trusted people, burglars, or termites
>> :-)
>>
>> The program I use requires me to enter a master password before it does
>> anything. That's fine with me.

> Roger that, but I don't have anyone else using my computer, so there
> isn't any real risk of someone sitting down and entering sites I don't
> want them to enter.

That's why I mostly fear the above-mentioned termites and burglars :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 6/07/2011, Gene E. Bloch posted:
> On 6/06/2011, VanguardLH posted:
>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:

>>> And I don't want anyone else automatically logging in to my Amazon account
>>> unless I'm there to slap their wrist with a ruler. I wouldn't even tell
>>> them the name of the program I use, much less let it pop up by itself.
>>>
>>> It's true that the problem is not too real here - the only ones besides me
>>> that have access are either trusted people, burglars, or termites
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> The program I use requires me to enter a master password before it does
>>> anything. That's fine with me.

>> Doesn't Roboform comply with Windows NT security standards in honoring
>> separation of databases by user accounts (so one user account can't get
>> at the stored logins saved under a different user account)?

> I have no idea because I have no experience with RoboForm, and I'm too lazy
> to research it :-)

> Char Jackson, in his reply, points out an error of mine, due in part to that
> very ignorance.

Please ignore the second sentence - I had a brainquake :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:56:24 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
<> wrote:

>On 6/07/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:02:27 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
>> <> wrote:
>
>>> On 6/06/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:48:25 +0900, BobbyM <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 6/6/2011 1:35 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:30:44 +0100, "Joan Archer"
>>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use RoboForm with IE9 on Windows 7 Home Premium and never had
>>>>>>> problems. I do use the toolbar though as I find that much quicker than
>>>>>>> going down to the notification area and then clicking on the RoboForm
>>>>>>> Icon then click on Logins then click on the one you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The toolbar is not big and everything is there at once, just click the
>>>>>>> Login button then the web site that you want to go too, much quicker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm curious why you guys have to use the Roboform toolbar or the icon
>>>>>> in the notification area. I disable both of those features and simply
>>>>>> let Roboform pop up it's little window when I visit a URL that
>>>>>> requires a login. A single click on 'Fill& Submit' does the trick.
>>>>>> Doesn't that work anymore?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't tried that option, so can't say whether it works or not. I
>>>>> visit a lot of sites with log ins. I don't want Roboform to pop up
>>>>> every time I visit one of those.
>>>
>>>> Isn't that what it's for, though? Naturally, it only pops up for sites
>>>> where you've saved login/pass data. Why wouldn't you want it to do
>>>> what it's supposed to do? Just curious...
>>>
>>> Well, I often go to, oh, let's say Amazon, just to look at something.
>
>> The vast majority of sites that I visit don't cause the login dialog
>> to come up just by visiting the site, including Amazon. I think I
>> remember two of about 300 of my saved sites that initially did that,
>> but they were easy to configure away.
>
>>> And I don't want anyone else automatically logging in to my Amazon
>>> account unless I'm there to slap their wrist with a ruler. I wouldn't
>>> even tell them the name of the program I use, much less let it pop up
>>> by itself.
>>>
>>> It's true that the problem is not too real here - the only ones besides
>>> me that have access are either trusted people, burglars, or termites
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> The program I use requires me to enter a master password before it does
>>> anything. That's fine with me.
>
>> Roger that, but I don't have anyone else using my computer, so there
>> isn't any real risk of someone sitting down and entering sites I don't
>> want them to enter.
>
>That's why I mostly fear the above-mentioned termites and burglars :-)

Burglars do weird things during their 'visits', like making a sandwich
or taking a shower or perhaps even using the computer, but I wonder
how you feel about buglers? Those are the ones I worry about. :-)

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Char Jackson

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:55:14 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
<> wrote:

>On 6/06/2011, VanguardLH posted:
>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>
>>> And I don't want anyone else automatically logging in to my Amazon
>>> account unless I'm there to slap their wrist with a ruler. I wouldn't
>>> even tell them the name of the program I use, much less let it pop up
>>> by itself.
>>>
>>> It's true that the problem is not too real here - the only ones besides
>>> me that have access are either trusted people, burglars, or termites
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> The program I use requires me to enter a master password before it does
>>> anything. That's fine with me.
>
>> Doesn't Roboform comply with Windows NT security standards in honoring
>> separation of databases by user accounts (so one user account can't get
>> at the stored logins saved under a different user account)?
>
>I have no idea because I have no experience with RoboForm, and I'm too
>lazy to research it :-)

And I'm likewise too lazy to create a second user account, but
considering that RoboForm stores MY login data in MY documents folder,
I'm assuming it does indeed respect the aforementioned NT security
standards. I might feel differently if that data was stored in a
public or shared folder, but it's not (by default, anyway), and it can
be encrypted and/or protected by a master password.

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Char Jackson

On 6/07/2011, Char Jackson posted:
> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:56:24 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
> <> wrote:

>> On 6/07/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:02:27 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
>>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 6/06/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>>>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:48:25 +0900, BobbyM <>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/6/2011 1:35 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:30:44 +0100, "Joan Archer"
>>>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use RoboForm with IE9 on Windows 7 Home Premium and never had
>>>>>>>> problems. I do use the toolbar though as I find that much quicker
>>>>>>>> than going down to the notification area and then clicking on the
>>>>>>>> RoboForm Icon then click on Logins then click on the one you want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The toolbar is not big and everything is there at once, just click the
>>>>>>>> Login button then the web site that you want to go too, much quicker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm curious why you guys have to use the Roboform toolbar or the icon
>>>>>>> in the notification area. I disable both of those features and simply
>>>>>>> let Roboform pop up it's little window when I visit a URL that
>>>>>>> requires a login. A single click on 'Fill& Submit' does the trick.
>>>>>>> Doesn't that work anymore?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't tried that option, so can't say whether it works or not. I
>>>>>> visit a lot of sites with log ins. I don't want Roboform to pop up
>>>>>> every time I visit one of those.
>>>>> Isn't that what it's for, though? Naturally, it only pops up for sites
>>>>> where you've saved login/pass data. Why wouldn't you want it to do
>>>>> what it's supposed to do? Just curious...
>>>>
>>>> Well, I often go to, oh, let's say Amazon, just to look at something.
>>> The vast majority of sites that I visit don't cause the login dialog
>>> to come up just by visiting the site, including Amazon. I think I
>>> remember two of about 300 of my saved sites that initially did that,
>>> but they were easy to configure away.
>>>> And I don't want anyone else automatically logging in to my Amazon
>>>> account unless I'm there to slap their wrist with a ruler. I wouldn't
>>>> even tell them the name of the program I use, much less let it pop up
>>>> by itself.
>>>>
>>>> It's true that the problem is not too real here - the only ones besides
>>>> me that have access are either trusted people, burglars, or termites
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> The program I use requires me to enter a master password before it does
>>>> anything. That's fine with me.
>>
>>> Roger that, but I don't have anyone else using my computer, so there
>>> isn't any real risk of someone sitting down and entering sites I don't
>>> want them to enter.
>>
>> That's why I mostly fear the above-mentioned termites and burglars :-)

> Burglars do weird things during their 'visits', like making a sandwich
> or taking a shower or perhaps even using the computer, but I wonder
> how you feel about buglers? Those are the ones I worry about. :-)

I don't give a toot about them.

To be serious for a second, though. I heard a piece on NPR a couple of
days ago about how there are very few buglers left to play Taps at
military memorials, and the result is that they often play a canned
version. That makes me sad :-(

I may have found the reason they need canned music: my spell checker
doesn't recognize the word "buglers". Odd enough...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 18:01:34 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
<> wrote:

>On 6/07/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:56:24 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
>> <> wrote:
>
>>> On 6/07/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:02:27 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It's true that the problem is not too real here - the only ones besides
>>>>> me that have access are either trusted people, burglars, or termites
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> The program I use requires me to enter a master password before it does
>>>>> anything. That's fine with me.
>>>
>>>> Roger that, but I don't have anyone else using my computer, so there
>>>> isn't any real risk of someone sitting down and entering sites I don't
>>>> want them to enter.
>>>
>>> That's why I mostly fear the above-mentioned termites and burglars :-)
>
>> Burglars do weird things during their 'visits', like making a sandwich
>> or taking a shower or perhaps even using the computer, but I wonder
>> how you feel about buglers? Those are the ones I worry about. :-)
>
>I don't give a toot about them.

Thanks, I knew I could count on you. :-)

>To be serious for a second, though. I heard a piece on NPR a couple of
>days ago about how there are very few buglers left to play Taps at
>military memorials, and the result is that they often play a canned
>version. That makes me sad :-(

I heard that, too, but I thought it was quite a few years ago. The
local VFW played Taps at my father's funeral in 1991 and, you guessed
it, it was canned.

>I may have found the reason they need canned music: my spell checker
>doesn't recognize the word "buglers". Odd enough...

I hope you added it.

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Char Jackson

On 6/07/2011, Char Jackson posted:
>> To be serious for a second, though. I heard a piece on NPR a couple of
>> days ago about how there are very few buglers left to play Taps at
>> military memorials, and the result is that they often play a canned
>> version. That makes me sad :-(

> I heard that, too, but I thought it was quite a few years ago. The
> local VFW played Taps at my father's funeral in 1991 and, you guessed

Yes, I heard the earlier one too. Maybe they do the piece annually on
Memorial Day :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)