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I was talking to a friend here at Microsoft this morning and he was almost telling me that IE9 will be our new x64 bit browser but there also could be some effort to extend support for xp as well they have some other ideas that will most probably be made public next week tuesday EST.

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jeffreyobrien

Good post and info Jeff! You're just a plethora of MS info.

I certainly hope that IE9 will not be available to XP. Why? First, I have an XP Pro install myself, as well as a Win 2K install. I have nothing against the OS's, I use them myself. But we cannot move forward by making everything work with, or being compatible with, XP. I realize that XP still holds a commanding 60+% market share, but XP is fading. The systems that XP runs on, are for the most part, outdated, redundant, behind the times, antiquated, and overall, lack the modern technology to meet the future's needs. Pentium 4 processors & 40GB hard drives, along with all it's other slow hardware, cannot possibly lead the way for the next generation of Windows to glory. Microsoft should keep their promise to support XP until April 2014, then drop it like a hot coal. This "effort" to extend support for XP is a waste of time, and if a large mass does show up, it will probably consist of mostly organized protesters, who appear at events all over the world. That being out of the way, IE9 should be for Windows 7 forward, although I've read that it will be Vista SP2 forward. Modern computers needs a modern browser, and IE9 should be reserved for them, and not make it backwards compatible with XP. 2014 is four years away, and by that time, most of the computers that are currently running XP will be in the dumpster anyway. So for the few that are still clinging to life by then, Vista SP2 will look good on them. I know, because it's installed on my laptop that was built to run XP. It does have a install of 7 on it, but Vista looks better, although it's a little heavy. By then, you probably can get the OS for next to nothing. I realize that my remarks sound a little harsh, but the truth is, and cannot be denied, we cannot move forward by embracing the past. That's the way that life works, and computing is no exception to that.

I think you will get some arguments in the thread, catilley, but none from me. You have said it all!

Catilley,
you have made an upstanding argument with "'I realize that my remarks sound a little harsh, but the truth is, and cannot be denied, we cannot move forward by embracing the past. That's the way that life works, and computing is no exception to that.

I fully agree with you especially with IE9,the browser has many new Demos etc some very good in my view Microsoft seem to be doing another Google with maps but it is faster than any other browser I have used and this graph does show that somethings definately going on here towards our embracing the past even IE9 is like slower with until tuesday a 'SECURITY RISK''so come on M$



IE Market Share Falls Below 60%
According to Net Applications, Internet Explorer's market share in April was 59.95%, an F+ in total world browser domination. The last time it was that low was in 1999 when Microsoft's latest and greatest browser offering was IE4. What gives?
In a word: Chrome. Google's scrappy browser continued to climb in market share last month, and it alone has gained much of the 9% IE has forfeited since the introduction of IE8 in March of last year. (Chrome's also the reason Firefox might forever languish below 25%—it had 24.59% market share last month).
Microsoft's counting on Internet Explorer 9, their sleek, HTML 5-friendly browser due out later this year, to reinvigorate interest, but with Chrome continuing to gain steam and Firefox's followers remaining loyal as ever, stopping IE's downward slide might be an uphill battle. [Conveivably Tech via Slashdot]

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thank you catilley for an excellent informative post
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jeffreyobrien

IE usage has dropped badly, I've realized that, but didn't know it was this low. Microsoft can turn this around a little, but as to how much, it's only a guess. Many of IE's former users have found other homes, and few are likely to return. As long as ActiveX is a part of IE, they'll struggle. But one thing for sure, Microsoft OS base is over 90% of the market. At one time, Microsoft fought like hell for their browser market share (remember the war with Netscape?). I don't know what's going on now. But one thing you can rest assured of, Microsoft has something up their sleeve. I would be surprised with all the progress and successful products launched last year (Windows 7, MSE, Bing), that they are going to just lay down and not put up a fight.

catilley,
great post as I said my friend wouldn't go public with anything before tuesday for reasons that are obvious,I am led to believe that Microsoft has something up their sleeve. catilley with all the progress and successful products launched last year (Windows 7, MSE, Bing),microsoft won't Just give up even with the lowest figures since 1999 with yes IE4,now they are actually spending zillions on IE9 which even if they remove the Active X controls & replace some java script they are going to hopefully regain control of the market,how I just don't have this answer probably with win 8 we will see IE9,to be honest I am using both IE9 & Fire Fox which gives me peace of mind.I don't like what appears to be the future however I will wait with open arms (LOL) I Just want Microsoft to get their act together like we all know can happen WHEN we all are in same boat catilley up stream mate Without any Paddle.
have a great weekend tomorrow
regards
jeffreyobrien

LATEST NEWS dated 7/5/2010
Is Microsoft using Internet Explorer 9 as a tool for force users to upgrade from Windows XP?
Internet Explorer 9 will not be supported by Windows XP. Period. Microsoft’s web technical evangelist Giorgio Sardo, speaking at the Web 2.0 Expo, has confirmed this. The reason given is that HTML5 and hardware acceleration require a modern OS.

Note: Interestingly, while XP users won’t be able to benefit from IE9, pirates will, as there will be no validation required.

But is this nothing more than a cunning ploy to make users upgrade the OS?
Let’s consider the evidence.
First, XP has a massive, entrenched following. It’s usage share is at 63.4%, while Vista holds a market share of 15.6% and Windows 7 an impressive 11.7%. Many XP users don’t see the need to upgrade because the OS does for them everything they need it to do. So it is in Microsoft’s best interests to come up with reasons for people to upgrade.
The there are the browser stats. Internet Explorer 6 has a greater market share (17.6%) than Firefox 3.6 (15.3%). Internet Explorer 8 enjoys an usage share of 24.6% while Internet Explorer 7 continues to hold its own with 12.5%.
What about other browser vendors, such as Opera, Mozilla and Google. Are these players abandoning XP? No. Here’s what Google Chrome developer Alex Russell had to say:

“I recognize Opera and Mozilla and on Chrome we’re all doing hardware acceleration. And, all of us are doing it on XP. What you’re describing is a situation where people are less behind. The way is to not leave users behind.”

So, Microsoft needs a stick to lever users away from XP. And a new, incompatible browser might just be the long reach stick that Microsoft needs to get those XP stalwarts upgrading …
… or perhaps not … After all, upgrading to a different browser might be a whole lot easier (and cheaper) than upgrading the entire OS. After all, if Chrome, Firefox and Opera are all going to be able to do everything (or most) of that Internet Explorer 9 can do without having to upgrade the OS, then Microsoft’s offering no longer seems like a good deal.
Would YOU upgrade your OS to get IE9?


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It not forcing users to upgrade. It's called dropping new development for XP and developing a browser for more current operating systems. Why waste time on new development for a dying OS that will not have any support in the near future.

To me this would be raising a flower and then chopping it down before it blossoms.

I'm actually shocked that IE6 is in front of FF 3.6, given it's lack of security. Really, I know of no one who uses it, and I've read that Google was even going to dump the browser. I do have it on Win 2K, but when using that OS (very seldom), I use FF. There was something that I read recently regarding the official "burial" of IE6, it may have been tied in with the Google deal. IE6 did ship with XP Pro, but I upgraded it to IE7, IE8 doesn't run good on XP. It's hard to believe that 17.6% of Windows users are that far behind the times, that amounts to almost one-fifth of Windows users. But the point of the article is correct, somehow, someway, Microsoft has to come up with a way to convince users to dump XP. Like I previously stated, Microsoft should keep their word and support XP until whatever date in April 2014. But support and optional programs are two separate issues. Support should of course include security updates & patches. But they should slide a date in there that will stop new installs of XP from receiving such programs as MSE, WMP 11, and Windows Live programs. That in itself would force users to upgrade. XP has been around since 2001. Vista with no SP has already been dropped, and they were five years apart. Why must we continue to cater to XP users, yet the first generation Vista users w/no SP have already been dumped. I just can't wait until April, 2014 gets here, and the babying of XP will be over. Then, we may finally move forward for good.