hard drive again

just to update; I bought a 1GB ram to-day and it installed no bother bowever
the shop sold me an internal hard drive with a "Sata" connection instead of
serial so I shall probably have to take the whole thing back to them and get
them to sort it out. I had taken the ilustration of the hard drive with me
and showed them that as well as saying that I had bought the power unit from
them with the ribbon connections.
They tell me I can get an adaptor but there does not seem to be anywhere in
the motherboard to connect to. I have looked at Maplin's site but do not
see a serial to sata adaptor.
Will keep group undated.

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:29:34 -0000, "Stewart"
<> wrote:

>just to update; I bought a 1GB ram to-day and it installed no bother bowever
>the shop sold me an internal hard drive with a "Sata" connection instead of
>serial so I shall probably have to take the whole thing back to them and get
>them to sort it out. I had taken the ilustration of the hard drive with me
>and showed them that as well as saying that I had bought the power unit from
>them with the ribbon connections.
>They tell me I can get an adaptor but there does not seem to be anywhere in
>the motherboard to connect to. I have looked at Maplin's site but do not
>see a serial to sata adaptor.
>Will keep group undated.

Give us the make and model of your motherboard if you want
confirmation of your board's capabilities. You can get that
information by running the free Belarc Advisor.

http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
http://www.belarc.com/Programs/advisor.exe

If the board doesn't natively include any SATA ports, you can probably
add a PCI card that provides multiple ports. Alternatively, if you
have a free IDE port, (what you incorrectly called serial), then
exchanging the drive will also work.

"Stewart" <> wrote:

>just to update; I bought a 1GB ram to-day and it installed no bother bowever
>the shop sold me an internal hard drive with a "Sata" connection instead of
>serial

SATA is *Serial* ATA, so your motherboard probably uses the older
Parallel ATA (PATA) connections.

>so I shall probably have to take the whole thing back to them and get
>them to sort it out. I had taken the ilustration of the hard drive with me
>and showed them that as well as saying that I had bought the power unit from
>them with the ribbon connections.
>They tell me I can get an adaptor but there does not seem to be anywhere in
>the motherboard to connect to.

It would be a SATA to PATA adapter. I don't really understand your
last line. There's got to be some kind of socket on your MB to connect
a disk to. Either the smaller SATA or the longer PATA socket.

--
Tim Slattery

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L; as I said I bought this from
Silicon in Edinburgh and to-day I showed them the illustration of the
motherboard before I bought the hard drive - a Seagate Serial 250GB
UDMA300.
My Hiper power unit has 2 Sata connectors, they are flat in shape and I have
fitted one of them to the flat pin of the hard drive, their colour wires are
Orange, Black, Red, Black and Yellow.
I do not seem to have connectors for the other 2 sockets on the hard drive;
one of these has 4 flat pins and would need a boxed female connector, the
other has 7 or 8 flat pins along the wall of a connector that would have to
be fairly flat with a small cut upwards at one end.
I do not know if that information will be of any assistance.
Thank you.


"Char Jackson" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:29:34 -0000, "Stewart"
> <> wrote:
>
>>just to update; I bought a 1GB ram to-day and it installed no bother
>>bowever
>>the shop sold me an internal hard drive with a "Sata" connection instead
>>of
>>serial so I shall probably have to take the whole thing back to them and
>>get
>>them to sort it out. I had taken the ilustration of the hard drive with
>>me
>>and showed them that as well as saying that I had bought the power unit
>>from
>>them with the ribbon connections.
>>They tell me I can get an adaptor but there does not seem to be anywhere
>>in
>>the motherboard to connect to. I have looked at Maplin's site but do not
>>see a serial to sata adaptor.
>>Will keep group undated.
>
> Give us the make and model of your motherboard if you want
> confirmation of your board's capabilities. You can get that
> information by running the free Belarc Advisor.
>
> http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
> http://www.belarc.com/Programs/advisor.exe
>
> If the board doesn't natively include any SATA ports, you can probably
> add a PCI card that provides multiple ports. Alternatively, if you
> have a free IDE port, (what you incorrectly called serial), then
> exchanging the drive will also work.
>

Tim, I am a bit lost as you will see with this; if you go to this site
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ProductID=1672
you will see a motherboard like mine.
All 4 connectors are in use,



"Tim Slattery" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Stewart" <> wrote:
>
>>just to update; I bought a 1GB ram to-day and it installed no bother
>>bowever
>>the shop sold me an internal hard drive with a "Sata" connection instead
>>of
>>serial
>
> SATA is *Serial* ATA, so your motherboard probably uses the older
> Parallel ATA (PATA) connections.
>
>>so I shall probably have to take the whole thing back to them and get
>>them to sort it out. I had taken the ilustration of the hard drive with
>>me
>>and showed them that as well as saying that I had bought the power unit
>>from
>>them with the ribbon connections.
>>They tell me I can get an adaptor but there does not seem to be anywhere
>>in
>>the motherboard to connect to.
>
> It would be a SATA to PATA adapter. I don't really understand your
> last line. There's got to be some kind of socket on your MB to connect
> a disk to. Either the smaller SATA or the longer PATA socket.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
>
> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

The other (longer) flat connector is for power. The drive won't work
without power.

Find a suitable connector coming from your power supply. If your power
supply doesn't have the flat one, use one of the huge 4-pin connectors
(called Molex) on the white connector.

You'll be a *lot* better off with the SATA power connector - the Molex
connectors usually are extraordinarily hard to remove.

Other have pointed out what SATA means :-)

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:19:25 -0000, Stewart wrote:

> The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L; as I said I bought this from
> Silicon in Edinburgh and to-day I showed them the illustration of the
> motherboard before I bought the hard drive - a Seagate Serial 250GB
> UDMA300.
> My Hiper power unit has 2 Sata connectors, they are flat in shape and I have
> fitted one of them to the flat pin of the hard drive, their colour wires are
> Orange, Black, Red, Black and Yellow.
> I do not seem to have connectors for the other 2 sockets on the hard drive;
> one of these has 4 flat pins and would need a boxed female connector, the
> other has 7 or 8 flat pins along the wall of a connector that would have to
> be fairly flat with a small cut upwards at one end.
> I do not know if that information will be of any assistance.
> Thank you.
>
>
> "Char Jackson" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:29:34 -0000, "Stewart"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>just to update; I bought a 1GB ram to-day and it installed no bother
>>>bowever
>>>the shop sold me an internal hard drive with a "Sata" connection instead
>>>of
>>>serial so I shall probably have to take the whole thing back to them and
>>>get
>>>them to sort it out. I had taken the ilustration of the hard drive with
>>>me
>>>and showed them that as well as saying that I had bought the power unit
>>>from
>>>them with the ribbon connections.
>>>They tell me I can get an adaptor but there does not seem to be anywhere
>>>in
>>>the motherboard to connect to. I have looked at Maplin's site but do not
>>>see a serial to sata adaptor.
>>>Will keep group undated.
>>
>> Give us the make and model of your motherboard if you want
>> confirmation of your board's capabilities. You can get that
>> information by running the free Belarc Advisor.
>>
>> http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
>> http://www.belarc.com/Programs/advisor.exe
>>
>> If the board doesn't natively include any SATA ports, you can probably
>> add a PCI card that provides multiple ports. Alternatively, if you
>> have a free IDE port, (what you incorrectly called serial), then
>> exchanging the drive will also work.
>>


--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

It's a PATA only board - it uses harddrive conntectors that look like this:

http://data-recovery.contentquake.co...-connector.jpg

If it had used SATA, - it doesn't -the connector would look like this:

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thu..._connector.jpg

Here's a picture of the two types together:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...206P164_1B.jpg

Anyway, your board has only PATA (IDE) connectors.

If the harddrive is a SATA harddrive you need this in order to connect the
harddrive:

http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/393891...TA_ADAPTER.jpg

Also, if your harddrive has only a SATA style power plug and your power
supply doesn't have SATA style power plugs you may need one of these:

http://www.satacables.com/assets/ima...er-adapter.jpg

The above said, you might just return the harddrive in exchange for an PATA
harddrive - but be forewarned, PATA drives may have gotten pricier in your
area since demand has dropped.




"Stewart" <> wrote in message
news:hn3q16$jnq$...
> Tim, I am a bit lost as you will see with this; if you go to this site
> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ProductID=1672
> you will see a motherboard like mine.
> All 4 connectors are in use,
>
>
>
> "Tim Slattery" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "Stewart" <> wrote:
>>
>>>just to update; I bought a 1GB ram to-day and it installed no bother
>>>bowever
>>>the shop sold me an internal hard drive with a "Sata" connection instead
>>>of
>>>serial
>>
>> SATA is *Serial* ATA, so your motherboard probably uses the older
>> Parallel ATA (PATA) connections.
>>
>>>so I shall probably have to take the whole thing back to them and get
>>>them to sort it out. I had taken the ilustration of the hard drive with
>>>me
>>>and showed them that as well as saying that I had bought the power unit
>>>from
>>>them with the ribbon connections.
>>>They tell me I can get an adaptor but there does not seem to be anywhere
>>>in
>>>the motherboard to connect to.
>>
>> It would be a SATA to PATA adapter. I don't really understand your
>> last line. There's got to be some kind of socket on your MB to connect
>> a disk to. Either the smaller SATA or the longer PATA socket.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Slattery
>>
>> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
>
>

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:19:25 -0000, "Stewart"
<> wrote:

>The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L; as I said I bought this from
>Silicon in Edinburgh and to-day I showed them the illustration of the
>motherboard before I bought the hard drive - a Seagate Serial 250GB
>UDMA300.
>My Hiper power unit has 2 Sata connectors, they are flat in shape and I have
>fitted one of them to the flat pin of the hard drive, their colour wires are
>Orange, Black, Red, Black and Yellow.
>I do not seem to have connectors for the other 2 sockets on the hard drive;
>one of these has 4 flat pins and would need a boxed female connector, the
>other has 7 or 8 flat pins along the wall of a connector that would have to
>be fairly flat with a small cut upwards at one end.
>I do not know if that information will be of any assistance.
>Thank you.

According to the picture on page 8 of your motherboard's manual, there
are two SATA (data) connectors located between IDE 0/1 and IDE 2/3.
Use either one of them (SATA-0 might be preferred) to connect your
SATA data cable, and use either of the SATA power connectors as well.
Your drive may have come with a SATA data cable. That's it, no jumpers
to worry about. The drive should be recognized the next time you power
up.

http://europe.giga-byte.com/FileList...n400pro2_e.pdf

On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:54:07 -0600, Char Jackson <>
wrote:

>On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:19:25 -0000, "Stewart"
><> wrote:
>
>>The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L; as I said I bought this from
>>Silicon in Edinburgh and to-day I showed them the illustration of the
>>motherboard before I bought the hard drive - a Seagate Serial 250GB
>>UDMA300.
>>My Hiper power unit has 2 Sata connectors, they are flat in shape and I have
>>fitted one of them to the flat pin of the hard drive, their colour wires are
>>Orange, Black, Red, Black and Yellow.
>>I do not seem to have connectors for the other 2 sockets on the hard drive;
>>one of these has 4 flat pins and would need a boxed female connector, the
>>other has 7 or 8 flat pins along the wall of a connector that would have to
>>be fairly flat with a small cut upwards at one end.
>>I do not know if that information will be of any assistance.
>>Thank you.
>
>According to the picture on page 8 of your motherboard's manual, there
>are two SATA (data) connectors located between IDE 0/1 and IDE 2/3.
>Use either one of them (SATA-0 might be preferred) to connect your
>SATA data cable, and use either of the SATA power connectors as well.
>Your drive may have come with a SATA data cable. That's it, no jumpers
>to worry about. The drive should be recognized the next time you power
>up.
>
>http://europe.giga-byte.com/FileList...n400pro2_e.pdf

Oops, your manual covers multiple motherboard models and I looked at
the wrong page. Sorry, but it looks like your specific board does NOT
have SATA connectors after all.

Others have correctly pointed out your options. Either exchange the
drive for an IDE (PATA) model or get the necessary adapters.

The specs from the link he gave to the website didn't include SATA, but the
PDF says there's two .. he will have to check. If he has SATA connectors,
all's good.



"Char Jackson" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:19:25 -0000, "Stewart"
> <> wrote:
>
>>The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L; as I said I bought this from
>>Silicon in Edinburgh and to-day I showed them the illustration of the
>>motherboard before I bought the hard drive - a Seagate Serial 250GB
>>UDMA300.
>>My Hiper power unit has 2 Sata connectors, they are flat in shape and I
>>have
>>fitted one of them to the flat pin of the hard drive, their colour wires
>>are
>>Orange, Black, Red, Black and Yellow.
>>I do not seem to have connectors for the other 2 sockets on the hard
>>drive;
>>one of these has 4 flat pins and would need a boxed female connector, the
>>other has 7 or 8 flat pins along the wall of a connector that would have
>>to
>>be fairly flat with a small cut upwards at one end.
>>I do not know if that information will be of any assistance.
>>Thank you.
>
> According to the picture on page 8 of your motherboard's manual, there
> are two SATA (data) connectors located between IDE 0/1 and IDE 2/3.
> Use either one of them (SATA-0 might be preferred) to connect your
> SATA data cable, and use either of the SATA power connectors as well.
> Your drive may have come with a SATA data cable. That's it, no jumpers
> to worry about. The drive should be recognized the next time you power
> up.
>
> http://europe.giga-byte.com/FileList...n400pro2_e.pdf
>