Good idea.

When my hand hurts from too much mouse use I stuff an empty Mortein
can into a sock and use it for wrist support. But here's an even
better idea...
http://www.damnlol.com/i/a7b09b438de...f13a34e467.jpg

Peter Jason wrote:
> When my hand hurts from too much mouse use I stuff an empty Mortein
> can into a sock and use it for wrist support. But here's an even
> better idea...
> http://www.damnlol.com/i/a7b09b438de...f13a34e467.jpg

I avoid "mouse fatigue" by using a track ball mouse.
--
Crash

"When you get to a fork in the road, take it."
~ Yogi Berra ~

In message <jl6o1o$h5i$>, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
<> writes
>Peter Jason wrote:
>> When my hand hurts from too much mouse use I stuff an empty Mortein
>> can into a sock and use it for wrist support. But here's an even
>> better idea...
>> http://www.damnlol.com/i/a7b09b438de...f13a34e467.jpg
>
>I avoid "mouse fatigue" by using a track ball mouse.

Don't you then get 'thumb fatigue'?
--
Ian

On 3/31/2012 6:59 AM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
> Peter Jason wrote:
>> When my hand hurts from too much mouse use I stuff an empty Mortein
>> can into a sock and use it for wrist support. But here's an even
>> better idea...
>> http://www.damnlol.com/i/a7b09b438de...f13a34e467.jpg
>
> I avoid "mouse fatigue" by using a track ball mouse.

If your wrist hurts you should be careful because I think you are on the
edge of carpal tunnel syndrome. Why don't you use a mouse pad with a
wrist support? I use a cordless mouse too but I find the support useful,
it doesn't roll away and I don't move the mouse enough to be restricted
by the pad.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On 31/03/2012 8:47 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> If your wrist hurts you should be careful because I think you are on the
> edge of carpal tunnel syndrome.


If it hurts, the damage is already done.

Wolf K.

Hi Wolf

Wolf K wrote:

> On 31/03/2012 8:47 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> > If your wrist hurts you should be careful because I think you are on the
> > edge of carpal tunnel syndrome.
>
>
> If it hurts, the damage is already done.

No, no... thats not true..
If that was true, pain would not be a very smart thing, but
fortunately pain is a very smart thing, it warns us that we are
doing something wrong, so we can stop doing it and find another way.


Best regards
Asger-P
http://Asger-P.dk/software
Quick Launch is a must try.

On 3/31/2012 6:59 AM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
> Peter Jason wrote:
>> When my hand hurts from too much mouse use I stuff an empty Mortein
>> can into a sock and use it for wrist support. But here's an even
>> better idea...
>> http://www.damnlol.com/i/a7b09b438de...f13a34e467.jpg
>
> I avoid "mouse fatigue" by using a track ball mouse.


I've used track balls since the mini computer days,
and don't care much for "mice".
HP used to build them in in some of the terminals
and test station consoles. A full size billiard ball
was close to the original size of the HP track balls.

On 31/03/2012 14:34, Asger Joergensen wrote:
> Hi Wolf
>
> Wolf K wrote:
>
>> On 31/03/2012 8:47 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>>> If your wrist hurts you should be careful because I think you are on the
>>> edge of carpal tunnel syndrome.
>>
>>
>> If it hurts, the damage is already done.
>
> No, no... thats not true..
> If that was true, pain would not be a very smart thing, but
> fortunately pain is a very smart thing, it warns us that we are
> doing something wrong, so we can stop doing it and find another way.

Pain is neither smart nor not smart - it only tells us there is
something wrong; we are free to ignore it if we want to, and can stand it.

Perhaps the strangest thing is with the most extreme pain that we can do
nothing about (this is often said to be that associated with kidney
stones). In fact, internal pain is sometimes "referred" to somewhere
else which can be very misleading. The pain of angina is often felt in
the upper arm, rather than the chest. No point in rubbing your arm to
make the pain better...

--

Jeff

On 31/03/2012 10:55 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 31/03/2012 14:34, Asger Joergensen wrote:
>> Hi Wolf
>>
>> Wolf K wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/03/2012 8:47 AM, James Silverton wrote:
>>>> If your wrist hurts you should be careful because I think you are on
>>>> the
>>>> edge of carpal tunnel syndrome.
>>>
>>>
>>> If it hurts, the damage is already done.
>>
>> No, no... thats not true..
>> If that was true, pain would not be a very smart thing, but
>> fortunately pain is a very smart thing, it warns us that we are
>> doing something wrong, so we can stop doing it and find another way.
>
> Pain is neither smart nor not smart - it only tells us there is
> something wrong; we are free to ignore it if we want to, and can stand it.
>
> Perhaps the strangest thing is with the most extreme pain that we can do
> nothing about (this is often said to be that associated with kidney
> stones). In fact, internal pain is sometimes "referred" to somewhere
> else which can be very misleading. The pain of angina is often felt in
> the upper arm, rather than the chest. No point in rubbing your arm to
> make the pain better...

The pain of carpal tunnel damage is insidious. By the time you feel
pain, the tunnel is already inflamed, and the ligaments are tightening
up. At this stage, the damage is mostly reversible. If you take the
appropriate steps, you can live with the residual damage. Paradoxically,
at a later stage, the wrist goes numb. At this stage, much of the damage
is permanent. Operation to loosen the tunnel is about the only cure. -
Based on my wife's experience, BTW.

HTH,
Wolf K.

On 2012-03-31 8:47 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 3/31/2012 6:59 AM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
>> Peter Jason wrote:
>>> When my hand hurts from too much mouse use I stuff an empty Mortein
>>> can into a sock and use it for wrist support. But here's an even
>>> better idea...
>>> http://www.damnlol.com/i/a7b09b438de...f13a34e467.jpg
>>
>> I avoid "mouse fatigue" by using a track ball mouse.
>
> If your wrist hurts you should be careful because I think you are on the
> edge of carpal tunnel syndrome. Why don't you use a mouse pad with a
> wrist support? I use a cordless mouse too but I find the support useful,
> it doesn't roll away and I don't move the mouse enough to be restricted
> by the pad.
>

Be careful about that. Most Keyboard wrist "rests" and mousepad wrist
"rests" are meant to be used when "resting", NOT while actually using
the keyboard or mouse.

The ergonomics of typing and mousing are such that your hand is supposed
to be effortlessly lifted slightly off the keyboard or table top. If
you ever took a typing class you should have been taught to type with
your hands off the desk top. This also leads into proper height
positioning of the desktop/keyboard so you aren't lifting your shoulders
to lift your arms to lift your hands.

Having said that, if you secure a rest that is soft enough, pliable
enough that supports without compression of the nerves or reducing the
blood flow in your wrist or hand, give it a shot, but don't use it as a
replacement for good posture.

RSI aren't to be sneezed at. I blew out my upper body muscles 17 years
ago after working as an electronic artist for 8 years. I had to give up
computers, driving and opening my own doors for over a year before my
physiotherapy had rebuilt enough of my endurance to be able to function
again. I have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, Cubital Tunnel Syndrome and
Chronic Bilateral Tendinitis. I've lost about 20% of the feeling in my
left hand's pinky and ring fingers (Cubital/Ulnar nerve) and into my
forearm on a good day, and I'm in constant pain or tingling.

To this day I cannot endure placing my arms or hands flat against any
hard surface for anymore than a couple of seconds.

Something I used to keep my wrists warm and support them, that actually
helped in times of need were:

http://www.mousemitt.com/

Strangely, don't also rule out light, reflections, noise, monitor tilt,
distance from monitor to your eyes, monitor height compared to your
natural resting position of your head, seat height, seat angles, back
support... so many things, and they all add up.

Track balls can have their own set of problems too. It's up to the
individual to find what works for them. Pain IS an indicator that
you're doing something that your body doesn't like, so don't ignore it.

--
[Robert]