I feel a little over-validated

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
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> And more evenings ahead when MS comes out with a new version of WAT.
> Personally, this was one of the reasons I started using Ubuntu. I figure,
> for some strange reason, that MY CASH should be enough for these cretins.


Is that the reason you are hanging around on Windows 7 newsgroups to get
help with your Ubuntu experience? No problems, Microsoft Valuable Pigs (or
MVPs for short) are always here to help you with your problems!!

"ray" <> wrote in message
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> Don't you just love MS? I've never had to 'validate' a Linux install.

But you still have to come here to get help with your Linux install!!

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
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> LD55ZRA wrote:
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hnb030$1fm$...
>>
>>> And more evenings ahead when MS comes out with a new version of
>>> WAT. Personally, this was one of the reasons I started using
>>> Ubuntu. I figure, for some strange reason, that MY CASH should be
>>> enough for these cretins.
>>
>>
>> Is that the reason you are hanging around on Windows 7 newsgroups to
>> get help with your Ubuntu experience?
>
> Nope.
>

Liar. You are here to spread your hate for Microsoft and to try to get
people to switch to that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.

FiOS-Dave wrote:

> Could it be that you are still running a Release Copy or a Beta?
> These are currently being "un-validated" (de-validated?) by MSFT.
>

No. I have run the beta and the release candidate versions in the past, but
this is definitely the RTM version. I purchased the full version of Home
Premium last October and did a clean install of the 32 bit.

--
John Aldred

"John Aldred" <> wrote in message
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> When I installed Microsoft Security Essentials I knew that part of the
> agreement was that my copy of Windows should be checked to ensure that it
> was genuine. Fair enough.
>
> About a month ago I received a message to say that my copy of Windows may
> not be genuine. I re-validated it. OK. No more messages.
>
> Today I had a similar message on my screen, and a pop-up from the taskbar
> to tell me that Security Essentials would stop working in 30 days unless I
> validated Windows.
>
> There was a link to click to go online to look for a solution. I had to
> download the new validation tool ( I've not been offered it yet by Windows
> Update). I downloaded and ran the validation tool. Everything was OK.
> Windows passed the test.
>
> However Security Essentials was still showing an amber warning, and
> presented me with a Validate button on it's main console. So I did as
> asked
> and validated for a second time. Pass, OK.
>
> I have 3 more machines (two XP and one Win7) running Security Essentials.
> I can see that I have a fun evening ahead. ;-)
>
> --
> John Aldred

John

(if you notice this amongst the MS/Linux flame wars)

Your symptoms suggest your system may have been already compromised by a
nasty (root kit, trojan, worm whatever) before you installed MSE.
I've seen similar validation issues on OS's that have been infested and then
'cleaned up' many times.
Nasties these days go to a lot of trouble to inoculate the OS so any Anti
Virus/Spyware/Rootkit/Trojan... software struggles to eliminate them, if
indeed it even detects them.
From what I can deduce the background activities of these nasties is what
triggers the Validation issues.

In most cases the only really successful remedy has been to back up the
personal data and do a fresh install of Windows.
Not necessarily what you want to do but then sometimes yer gotta do what yer
gotta do.

Best
Paul.

John Aldred <> écrivait
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> Slap wrote:
>
>>
>> "John Aldred" <> wrote in message
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<snip>

>
> Well I downloaded an upgrade to the MSE client yesterday. It could be
> that this now checks to see if the new validation tool is installed.
> In my case it wasn't because I hadn't been offered it yet by WU.
>

I would be surprised because when the Windows Activation Technologies (WAT)
update was published a few weeks ago, MS claimed it was optional and when I
went to WU site, it was there but it was not checked for installation
unlike the other security updates published at the same time.

In my case, I didn't install it and I hided it on WU and today, after
reading your post, I wanted to get the KB number of the update to post it
here so I went to WU and clicked to show hidden updates and there was no
hidden updates.

If you don't see it on WU and you really want it, you can get it there
anyway:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971033/en-us

HTH

PeeCee wrote:


> John
>
> (if you notice this amongst the MS/Linux flame wars)

Yes, sorry, I have only just noticed your posting.

>
> Your symptoms suggest your system may have been already compromised by a
> nasty (root kit, trojan, worm whatever) before you installed MSE.
> I've seen similar validation issues on OS's that have been infested and
> then 'cleaned up' many times.
> Nasties these days go to a lot of trouble to inoculate the OS so any Anti
> Virus/Spyware/Rootkit/Trojan... software struggles to eliminate them, if
> indeed it even detects them.
> From what I can deduce the background activities of these nasties is what
> triggers the Validation issues.
>
> In most cases the only really successful remedy has been to back up the
> personal data and do a fresh install of Windows.
> Not necessarily what you want to do but then sometimes yer gotta do what
> yer gotta do.
>

I made a disk image (using Acronis True Image) immediately after I had
installed Win7, so it's a simple job to go back to the original.

That is my ultimate option if the problem does no go away.
However, running the Microsoft WAT tool confirmed that my version was OK and
I haven't had any trouble since.

As for Malware - I shouldn't have picked up anything nasty as the system is
not used on-line except for the occasional newscast from the BBC.
But as you say, there could be something nasty lurking in the machine.

Thanks for the advice.

--
John Aldred