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Ken Blake
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      06-08-2012
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 07:48:10 -0700, Bob Hatch <>
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> On 6/8/2012 7:31 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
> > On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:53:16 +0100, Ed Cryer <>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> When you right click on the top address bar of Windows Explorer you get
> >> four options;
> >> Copy address
> >> Copy address as text
> >> Edit address
> >> Delete history
> >>
> >> What's the difference between 1 and 2? If I do either I can paste it
> >> into a Notepad.

> >
> >
> > What version of IE are you asking about? With IE9 here, I don't see
> > any of those choices.
> >

>
> Ken, WINDOWS EXPLORER!



Oops! Sorry, I (obviously) read it wrong.

 
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      06-08-2012
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:59:32 -0400, "...winston" <>
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>
>
> Thought you might be confused about MSFT's nomenclature ?
> Windows vs. Internet Explorer
>
> But after reading the other thread on MSFT's multi-similar-naming
> applications it looks more like a tongue-in-cheek reply to add some humor
> to this thread.



I wish I could say it was tongue-in-cheek, but alas, I simply read it
wrong.

It wasn't Microsoft's nomenclature, it was just me making a simple
mistake. Sorry.

 
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      06-08-2012
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:16:20 +0100, Rob <>
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> On 08/06/2012 13:53, Ed Cryer wrote:
> > When you right click on the top address bar of Windows Explorer you get
> > four options;
> > Copy address
> > Copy address as text
> > Edit address
> > Delete history
> >
> > What's the difference between 1 and 2? If I do either I can paste it
> > into a Notepad.
> >
> > Ed

>
> Try 1), then right-click>paste inside a new folder. It will copy the
> contents of the original address. In other words, 1) is the same as
> right-click>copy on a folder.



Thanks to you and Seth for unraveling the mystery. But shame on
Microsoft for not having the names of the two choices do a much better
job of explaining what the differences were. As an example of better
choices:

Copy address

Copy contents of folder

 
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      06-08-2012
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:57:05 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:59:32 -0400, "...winston" <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Thought you might be confused about MSFT's nomenclature ?
>> Windows vs. Internet Explorer
>>
>> But after reading the other thread on MSFT's multi-similar-naming
>> applications it looks more like a tongue-in-cheek reply to add some humor
>> to this thread.

>
> I wish I could say it was tongue-in-cheek, but alas, I simply read it
> wrong.
>
> It wasn't Microsoft's nomenclature, it was just me making a simple
> mistake. Sorry.


Yeah, but...

If one was called Browser and the other File Fetcher, would you have
made that error?

Disclaimer: even in that case, I might have made that slip :-)

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      06-08-2012
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:08:45 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:16:20 +0100, Rob <>
> wrote:
>
>> On 08/06/2012 13:53, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> When you right click on the top address bar of Windows Explorer you get
>>> four options;
>>> Copy address
>>> Copy address as text
>>> Edit address
>>> Delete history
>>>
>>> What's the difference between 1 and 2? If I do either I can paste it
>>> into a Notepad.
>>>
>>> Ed

>>
>> Try 1), then right-click>paste inside a new folder. It will copy the
>> contents of the original address. In other words, 1) is the same as
>> right-click>copy on a folder.

>
> Thanks to you and Seth for unraveling the mystery. But shame on
> Microsoft for not having the names of the two choices do a much better
> job of explaining what the differences were. As an example of better
> choices:
>
> Copy address
>
> Copy contents of folder


That is *not* the Microsoft way

....apparently.

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      06-08-2012
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:14:52 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:08:45 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:16:20 +0100, Rob <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/06/2012 13:53, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>> When you right click on the top address bar of Windows Explorer you get
>>>> four options;
>>>> Copy address
>>>> Copy address as text
>>>> Edit address
>>>> Delete history
>>>>
>>>> What's the difference between 1 and 2? If I do either I can paste it
>>>> into a Notepad.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>
>>> Try 1), then right-click>paste inside a new folder. It will copy the
>>> contents of the original address. In other words, 1) is the same as
>>> right-click>copy on a folder.

>>
>> Thanks to you and Seth for unraveling the mystery. But shame on
>> Microsoft for not having the names of the two choices do a much better
>> job of explaining what the differences were. As an example of better
>> choices:
>>
>> Copy address
>>
>> Copy contents of folder

>
> That is *not* the Microsoft way
>
> ...apparently.


BTW, I never figured out the difference either. This thread is
educational & informative.

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      06-08-2012
In message <105fz6nny0z7i$.>, Gene E. Bloch
<not-> writes:
>On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:57:05 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:59:32 -0400, "...winston" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thought you might be confused about MSFT's nomenclature ?
>>> Windows vs. Internet Explorer

[]
>> I wish I could say it was tongue-in-cheek, but alas, I simply read it
>> wrong.
>>
>> It wasn't Microsoft's nomenclature, it was just me making a simple
>> mistake. Sorry.

>
>Yeah, but...
>
>If one was called Browser and the other File Fetcher, would you have
>made that error?


Or even File Manager!
[]
(Just because in the past they had something with such a name is no
reason not to re-use it.)
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      06-08-2012
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:13:49 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-> wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:57:05 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:59:32 -0400, "...winston" <>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Thought you might be confused about MSFT's nomenclature ?
> >> Windows vs. Internet Explorer
> >>
> >> But after reading the other thread on MSFT's multi-similar-naming
> >> applications it looks more like a tongue-in-cheek reply to add some humor
> >> to this thread.

> >
> > I wish I could say it was tongue-in-cheek, but alas, I simply read it
> > wrong.
> >
> > It wasn't Microsoft's nomenclature, it was just me making a simple
> > mistake. Sorry.

>
> Yeah, but...
>
> If one was called Browser and the other File Fetcher, would you have
> made that error?



Probably not. You're right.
 
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      06-08-2012
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:22:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<> wrote:

> In message <105fz6nny0z7i$.>, Gene E. Bloch
> <not-> writes:
> >On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:57:05 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:59:32 -0400, "...winston" <>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thought you might be confused about MSFT's nomenclature ?
> >>> Windows vs. Internet Explorer

> []
> >> I wish I could say it was tongue-in-cheek, but alas, I simply read it
> >> wrong.
> >>
> >> It wasn't Microsoft's nomenclature, it was just me making a simple
> >> mistake. Sorry.

> >
> >Yeah, but...
> >
> >If one was called Browser and the other File Fetcher, would you have
> >made that error?

>
> Or even File Manager!
> []
> (Just because in the past they had something with such a name is no
> reason not to re-use it.)



My view is even stronger than that. Just because in the past they had
something with such a name is exactly the reason they *should* re-use
it. Changing names confuses people and should be avoided.

 
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      06-08-2012
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:14:52 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
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> > Thanks to you and Seth for unraveling the mystery. But shame on
> > Microsoft for not having the names of the two choices do a much better
> > job of explaining what the differences were. As an example of better
> > choices:
> >
> > Copy address
> >
> > Copy contents of folder

>
> That is *not* the Microsoft way
>
> ...apparently.



Right. As I said here a day or two ago, how they name things is among
the things Microsoft is *worst* at.

 
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