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Computer fan creates an irritating, buzzing sound at random intervals. Plz help!

 
 
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      11-18-2010
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      11-18-2010
If the sound is not normal then yes you should be able to have it repaired under warranty. The issue is can you live with the terms of the warranty; I know of at least one company that, in this case a laptop, was returned to and it took them over a month to repair it.
 
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      11-19-2010
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Branded systems somehow seem to produce less noise than assembled ones. And I have no idea why this is so!
I find that to be quite the contrary! Usually the branded systems use less cooling fans and the only ones are the PSU fan and the CPU fan. On the other hand, assembled systems can be quite "overboard" and too damn many fans. Some assemblers use enough fans to qualify as another wind tunnel project for JPL! LOL!

What I really mean is that if the assembler is careful and chooses wisely, their system build can be as quiet of quieter than branded systems.

I have a total of 4 fans in my home-built setup: 1-120mm fan, 1-130mm PSU fan, 1-140mm fan and 1-93mm CPU fan and this system is so quiet you can't tell if it's running unless you look at the power and HDD LEDs.
 
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      11-20-2010
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As this is a brand new system, shouldn't the fan be running smoothly? I do remember that the heat sink and fan were part of the AMD processor package/kit.
Yes, AMD (and Intel) warranty their CPU and accompanied cooling solution for 3 years. Call for a replacement.

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but can I seek a replacement of the complete HSF just for this buzzing problem?
Absolutely! Understand that AMD specifically states in their AMD CPU Warranty (their bold):
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This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the AMD microprocessor which is the subject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan other than the one provided herewith.
If you don't care about the CPU warranty, then go for a 3rd party cooling solution. Otherwise, stick with the OEM supplied fan. In any case, you should replace it immediately. Noisy bearings are a sure sign the bearings are failing and will likely seize and then you will not be able to use your computer, and if unlucky, damage to the CPU or socket may occur due to excessive heat. You should be watching your temps carefully right now as it is also likely the fan is not spinning at full speed due to the added friction of the bad bearings.

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If i could just ad that I was told not too long ago by the manufacturer of one of my other systems that if i attempt or gain access to the inside of my system that it would no longer be under warranty therefore being void.

the seal it says warranty void if seal is broken.
Those seals are a SCAM used by (IMO) unscrupulous PC makers, used to intimidate buyers to spend more money at their shops and to keep untrained hands out. BUT, you not only have the Right to open your case to add more RAM, a new drive, or an add-in card, you have the responsibility to open the case to clean the interior of heat trapping dust. There is NO DOUBT if something fries because dust buildup caused excessive heat and damage that you will be stuck with the bill. And you can't, or better not anyway, let a PC go for a whole year without cleaning. At the very least, you need to open it up every couple months for inspection.

The key factor here, as recognized in the courts across the globe and as accepted by ALL member countries of the United Nations, is user serviceable parts inside. If there are no user serviceable parts inside, such as inside a power supply, or inside a hard drive, then you can't open it. But if there are user serviceable parts inside, you can. Many new cases come with thumbscrews for a reason!

Therefore, the PC maker can plaster 1000s of those stickers on the case if he wants, but if he voids your warranty because you opened the case to add a HD, take him to court and you will win. Then counter-sue for unfair trade practices and put him out of business! There is already case precedence on this with such things as new car owners are allowed to do their own routine maintenance (oil changes and tire rotations), for example.

The exception to the sticker rule is if, and only if the PC makers performs ALL routine and elective maintenance for FREE! That is, they clean it for free, they add RAM for free, and they add extra hard drives for free. And that includes RAM you buy from someplace else. You do NOT have to buy your extra RAM from them, just as you don't have to buy your oil and filter from the car dealer.

Of course, you also have the responsibility of doing the maintenance correctly. If you zap something because you failed to take necessary ESD control precautions, then you have to pay for the damage. If you break something due to carelessness or because you used too much force incorrectly, you have to pay for the damage.

Notebooks are a bit different because they are so proprietary and don't provide for easy access to the interior. But most notebooks still have access panels to add RAM or to remove drives and batteries so you can do some cleaning.

So again, you not only have the Right to open your case if there are user serviceable parts inside, as there are with PCs, you have the responsibility to keep the interior clean of heat trapping dust. Therefore, it is those stickers and their warnings that are null and void, not your warranties. And these PC makers know that (or their lawyers sure do). Note that many of the big name makers no longer put them on their cases for that reason. Even my new Toshiba notebook has none.

I've been building custom PCs for years and I never have used those stickers because I know they are a scam. Yes, there will always be some unscrupulous users who will do something wrong then when sparks fly claim sweet innocence. That's just one of the costs of doing business. It is also why, to avoid that, I teach my new buyers what to inspect and how to clean because, as noted in my sig, heat is not good.

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      11-20-2010
''you have the responsibility to keep the interior clean of heat trapping dust''

yes i agree with totally, this was a heated argument when i was told about the seal on the back and i was concerned about the above quote too in which they did say that if seal was broken it will be void of warranty, however i was blue in the face with them trying to explain this and hung up the phone and ignored what was said.

And i was just asking about possible upgrading of a suitable alternative graphics at the time lol. ie because of lack of space in my system.
 
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      11-20-2010
Yeah, some of these guys get pretty forceful, but again, their arguement won't stand up in court - not unless they provide free routine maintenance, to include upgrades and cleaning, for the life of the warranty.
 
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