Clean install with upgrade DVD

This weekend I upgraded a Vista machine (OEM) with Seven and I wanted a
clean installation so I decided to try the upgrade over itself
installation.

My experience seems to indicate that the upgrade must be initiated
IMMEDIATELY after the first clean installation because after the first
installation I installed the NIC driver so that the PC could access the
internet. That was a mistake; because when I tried to upgrade the first
installation, it told me that the version on the DVD was older than the
installed version and it wouldn't do it.

I managed to do it by slipstreaming SP1 and created a new DVD with SP1. I
then did a new installation with the original upgrade DVD and upgraded it
with the SP1 DVD and it worked.

I understand that I could have used the optional method required when you
upgrade XP to Seven which would have made a clean install after creating a
Windows.old folder but I wanted to test the upgrade over itself method.

There is no question in this post, it's just a comment on my experience.

Dominique <> wrote in
news:XnF9F508D44C8696doumdomainnet@88.198.244.100:

> This weekend I upgraded a Vista machine (OEM) with Seven and I wanted
> a clean installation so I decided to try the upgrade over itself
> installation.
>
> My experience seems to indicate that the upgrade must be initiated
> IMMEDIATELY after the first clean installation because after the first
> installation I installed the NIC driver so that the PC could access
> the internet. That was a mistake; because when I tried to upgrade the
> first installation, it told me that the version on the DVD was older
> than the installed version and it wouldn't do it.
>
> I managed to do it by slipstreaming SP1 and created a new DVD with
> SP1. I then did a new installation with the original upgrade DVD and
> upgraded it with the SP1 DVD and it worked.
>
> I understand that I could have used the optional method required when
> you upgrade XP to Seven which would have made a clean install after
> creating a Windows.old folder but I wanted to test the upgrade over
> itself method.
>
> There is no question in this post, it's just a comment on my
> experience.
>
>

Hi,

When MSFT was selling Win7 Home Premium Upgrades for $50, I bought two
because I had a desktop and a laptop with OEM (Dell) installed Vista that
I wanted to 'upgrade'. Actually, I wanted to do clean installs.

On both machines, I reformatted the hard drives so they we rid of Vista,
and I did a 'custom' install of the Win 7 upgrade. I got lucky both
times. Funny thing is, I did not have to activate the desktop but the
laptop asked for activation in a couple of months.

It sounds like you basically did this (with a slipstream of SP1), here:

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/...ws-7-from-the-
upgrade-disc/

"The short version of that trick is this: Once you’ve installed Win7 from
the upgrade DVD, start Win7, and then stick the upgrade disc in the drive
again. Follow the instructions to upgrade, but don’t choose Custom —
you’re upgrading to Windows 7 from Windows 7. Enter the key when
requested, and it’ll validate the next time you’re online."

I had such a hard time applying SP1 to the laptop, that I still haven't
installed SP on the desktop. Maybe I'll get brave this weekend.

On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:53:14 +0000 (UTC), Dominique <>
wrote:

> This weekend I upgraded a Vista machine (OEM) with Seven and I wanted a
> clean installation so I decided to try the upgrade over itself
> installation.
>
> My experience seems to indicate that the upgrade must be initiated
> IMMEDIATELY after the first clean installation because after the first
> installation I installed the NIC driver so that the PC could access the
> internet. That was a mistake; because when I tried to upgrade the first
> installation, it told me that the version on the DVD was older than the
> installed version and it wouldn't do it.
>
> I managed to do it by slipstreaming SP1 and created a new DVD with SP1. I
> then did a new installation with the original upgrade DVD and upgraded it
> with the SP1 DVD and it worked.
>
> I understand that I could have used the optional method required when you
> upgrade XP to Seven which would have made a clean install after creating a
> Windows.old folder but I wanted to test the upgrade over itself method.
>
> There is no question in this post, it's just a comment on my experience.

Your post is a bit sketchy.

You should have mounted the Win7 Setup CD AFTER you reached your Vista
desktop. That should have offered you an upgrade option.

*** At least that is what another Vista user said he did. ***

I use WinXP and will never go to Win7, so I'm no authority.


The WinXP-to-Win7 REQUIRES a full Win7 install, then you have to
reinstall ALL your apps. SEE:
(the following URL should be one line)
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

I do NOT like eye-candy (run WinXP in Classic Mode) which is all Win7
is. And Win7 is even MORE of a resource-hog than WinXP. *For me*,
there is nothing in Win7 that I need to have, and requirement to
reinstall 50+ apps is a non-starter.




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Tecknomage <> écrivait
news::

> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:53:14 +0000 (UTC), Dominique <>
> wrote:
>
>> This weekend I upgraded a Vista machine (OEM) with Seven and I wanted
a
>> clean installation so I decided to try the upgrade over itself
>> installation.
>>
>> My experience seems to indicate that the upgrade must be initiated
>> IMMEDIATELY after the first clean installation because after the first
>> installation I installed the NIC driver so that the PC could access
the
>> internet. That was a mistake; because when I tried to upgrade the
first
>> installation, it told me that the version on the DVD was older than
the
>> installed version and it wouldn't do it.
>>
>> I managed to do it by slipstreaming SP1 and created a new DVD with
SP1. I
>> then did a new installation with the original upgrade DVD and upgraded
it
>> with the SP1 DVD and it worked.
>>
>> I understand that I could have used the optional method required when
you
>> upgrade XP to Seven which would have made a clean install after
creating a
>> Windows.old folder but I wanted to test the upgrade over itself
method.
>>
>> There is no question in this post, it's just a comment on my
experience.
>
> Your post is a bit sketchy.
>
> You should have mounted the Win7 Setup CD AFTER you reached your Vista
> desktop. That should have offered you an upgrade option.
>
<snip>

Yes I agree, and the custom option would have wiped out the Vista
installation, but I wanted to test the "clean installation with Upgrade
DVD" method by upgrading Win 7 with itself. That was a learning process
for me.

Thanks

On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:54:19 -0700, Tecknomage wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:53:14 +0000 (UTC), Dominique <>
> wrote:
>
>> This weekend I upgraded a Vista machine (OEM) with Seven and I wanted a
>> clean installation so I decided to try the upgrade over itself
>> installation.
>>
>> My experience seems to indicate that the upgrade must be initiated
>> IMMEDIATELY after the first clean installation because after the first
>> installation I installed the NIC driver so that the PC could access the
>> internet. That was a mistake; because when I tried to upgrade the first
>> installation, it told me that the version on the DVD was older than the
>> installed version and it wouldn't do it.
>>
>> I managed to do it by slipstreaming SP1 and created a new DVD with SP1. I
>> then did a new installation with the original upgrade DVD and upgraded it
>> with the SP1 DVD and it worked.
>>
>> I understand that I could have used the optional method required when you
>> upgrade XP to Seven which would have made a clean install after creating a
>> Windows.old folder but I wanted to test the upgrade over itself method.
>>
>> There is no question in this post, it's just a comment on my experience.
>
> Your post is a bit sketchy.
>
> You should have mounted the Win7 Setup CD AFTER you reached your Vista
> desktop. That should have offered you an upgrade option.
>
> *** At least that is what another Vista user said he did. ***
>
> I use WinXP and will never go to Win7, so I'm no authority.
>
> The WinXP-to-Win7 REQUIRES a full Win7 install, then you have to
> reinstall ALL your apps. SEE:
> (the following URL should be one line)
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7
>
> I do NOT like eye-candy (run WinXP in Classic Mode) which is all Win7
> is. And Win7 is even MORE of a resource-hog than WinXP. *For me*,
> there is nothing in Win7 that I need to have, and requirement to
> reinstall 50+ apps is a non-starter.

Are you aware that there is a valid domain called nospam.com?

Its IP is 66.114.124.140.

The specified way to make an invalid address is to terminate a string
with ".invalid".

"" would be a valid example (pun intended)...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:41:47 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:54:19 -0700, Tecknomage wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:53:14 +0000 (UTC), Dominique <>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> This weekend I upgraded a Vista machine (OEM) with Seven and I wanted a
> >> clean installation so I decided to try the upgrade over itself
> >> installation.
> >>
> >> My experience seems to indicate that the upgrade must be initiated
> >> IMMEDIATELY after the first clean installation because after the first
> >> installation I installed the NIC driver so that the PC could access the
> >> internet. That was a mistake; because when I tried to upgrade the first
> >> installation, it told me that the version on the DVD was older than the
> >> installed version and it wouldn't do it.
> >>
> >> I managed to do it by slipstreaming SP1 and created a new DVD with SP1. I
> >> then did a new installation with the original upgrade DVD and upgraded it
> >> with the SP1 DVD and it worked.
> >>
> >> I understand that I could have used the optional method required when you
> >> upgrade XP to Seven which would have made a clean install after creating a
> >> Windows.old folder but I wanted to test the upgrade over itself method.
> >>
> >> There is no question in this post, it's just a comment on my experience.
> >
> > Your post is a bit sketchy.
> >
> > You should have mounted the Win7 Setup CD AFTER you reached your Vista
> > desktop. That should have offered you an upgrade option.
> >
> > *** At least that is what another Vista user said he did. ***
> >
> > I use WinXP and will never go to Win7, so I'm no authority.
> >
> > The WinXP-to-Win7 REQUIRES a full Win7 install, then you have to
> > reinstall ALL your apps. SEE:
> > (the following URL should be one line)
> > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7
> >
> > I do NOT like eye-candy (run WinXP in Classic Mode) which is all Win7
> > is. And Win7 is even MORE of a resource-hog than WinXP. *For me*,
> > there is nothing in Win7 that I need to have, and requirement to
> > reinstall 50+ apps is a non-starter.
>
> Are you aware that there is a valid domain called nospam.com?
>
> Its IP is 66.114.124.140.
>
> The specified way to make an invalid address is to terminate a string
> with ".invalid".
>
> "" would be a valid example (pun intended)...

Thanks, live and learn....

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=========== Tecknomage ===========
Computer Systems Specialist
ComputerHelpForum.org Staff Member
IT Technician
San Diego, CA

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:50:35 -0700, Tecknomage wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:41:47 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> <not-> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:54:19 -0700, Tecknomage wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:53:14 +0000 (UTC), Dominique <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This weekend I upgraded a Vista machine (OEM) with Seven and I wanted a
>>>> clean installation so I decided to try the upgrade over itself
>>>> installation.
>>>>
>>>> My experience seems to indicate that the upgrade must be initiated
>>>> IMMEDIATELY after the first clean installation because after the first
>>>> installation I installed the NIC driver so that the PC could access the
>>>> internet. That was a mistake; because when I tried to upgrade the first
>>>> installation, it told me that the version on the DVD was older than the
>>>> installed version and it wouldn't do it.
>>>>
>>>> I managed to do it by slipstreaming SP1 and created a new DVD with SP1. I
>>>> then did a new installation with the original upgrade DVD and upgraded it
>>>> with the SP1 DVD and it worked.
>>>>
>>>> I understand that I could have used the optional method required when you
>>>> upgrade XP to Seven which would have made a clean install after creating a
>>>> Windows.old folder but I wanted to test the upgrade over itself method.
>>>>
>>>> There is no question in this post, it's just a comment on my experience.
>>>
>>> Your post is a bit sketchy.
>>>
>>> You should have mounted the Win7 Setup CD AFTER you reached your Vista
>>> desktop. That should have offered you an upgrade option.
>>>
>>> *** At least that is what another Vista user said he did. ***
>>>
>>> I use WinXP and will never go to Win7, so I'm no authority.
>>>
>>> The WinXP-to-Win7 REQUIRES a full Win7 install, then you have to
>>> reinstall ALL your apps. SEE:
>>> (the following URL should be one line)
>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7
>>>
>>> I do NOT like eye-candy (run WinXP in Classic Mode) which is all Win7
>>> is. And Win7 is even MORE of a resource-hog than WinXP. *For me*,
>>> there is nothing in Win7 that I need to have, and requirement to
>>> reinstall 50+ apps is a non-starter.
>>
>> Are you aware that there is a valid domain called nospam.com?
>>
>> Its IP is 66.114.124.140.
>>
>> The specified way to make an invalid address is to terminate a string
>> with ".invalid".
>>
>> "" would be a valid example (pun intended)...
>
> Thanks, live and learn....

And thanks in return for not getting annoyed :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)