CCleaner W7 - Not a good idea

See, that's what happens when you speak bad about CCleaner on this site

For any newbies reading this, it's a joke. Spamming paid software is the most common thing that gets you banned. CCleaner comes highly recommended here but you are entitled to your misguided opinion if you disagree

Not me. I think it is a valuable tool. More than once I have had a driver update fail and SR saved me. It is also good to roll back to a previous state if you try out a new program - especially a registry intensive program, not like it and uninstall.

The disadvantages I have heard about System Restore are bogus, IMO. The first is that malware can hide in restore points. While that is true, malware does infect restore points. That is, if you download malware, it does not seek out restore points to infect. Rather, it infects files that later may be included in a restore point. That means the user has already failed at practicing safe computing. To use infected restore points as an excuse not to use SR is bogus - for the same reason you would not use that as an excuse to perform regular backups.

The second reason, and the one most commonly heard is that it uses resources. That's bogus too. For one, it only runs with called upon, and for another, it ALWAYS yields disk space if disk space is low. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300044

To me System Restore is useless. Any problem that happens I can fix without issue.

System restore is not necessary to get rid of a faulty driver. Simply press f8 at boot to get the menu and then choose last known good configuration or last settings that worked. (Forget the wording because I think it's different with Vista and 7.)

It's an annoyance to me to see it in action during Windows Updates and I don't like how the shadow copies mess up my disk defragments.

Perhaps less knowledgeable Windows users could benefit from SR I suppose. To me, there's not a need.

The problem with that is it is resets every time you have a good boot. So, if you have rebooted successfully twice since the failed update, that option will not work. And while I admit, there are other, relatively simple ways to roll back a failed driver update, SR is even simpler.

Also, you cannot undo changes made with the Last Known option, but you can undo changes made with SR.

As far as disk defragmenting, I suppose that's an issue but I never defrag without purging my system of temp files first - and that includes old restore points. Because temp files are stored on the HD every time you use the computer, especially when you access the Internet, and because I think it pointless and even counterproductive to defrag with a bunch of tiny temp files on the HD, I'm not a fan of automatic or real-time defraggers, and don't use them.

And speaking of Windows Update, though I have not (yet - knock on forehead/wood) had one fail with Windows 7, using SR to recover from a botched update is also pretty simple - but not possible if disabled, and may not be possible with "Last known good configuration".

I'm not saying you are wrong to disable it, but if you have because of past experience with XP SR, then I think you should reconsider SR in Win7.

Same here about defragging and temp files.

Not quite sure why you're trying to convince me to use SR when there is no circumstance it could ever help me with. Like I said, I could fix whatever the problem is large or small, even with failed and botched SP1 upgrades that can't boot, because of a MS fault like I did on this machine.

Like I said - for me, it is a waste of time, space, messes up defrags and I don't want/need the volume shadow copy service activated ever on any circumstance. I don't need system memory taken by the service, especially since I'm only working with 2 GB to begin with.

My machines are tweaked to the hilt, just how I like them.

Not trying to convince you to use System Restore. Just want to make sure no one reading is under the impression there are advantages to disabling it. Frankly, I see no advantages in disabling it - even if there is never a need to use it.

I do use Systtem Restore. I full agree with you it's definitel a valuable featrure in both Vista and 7. I only use Ccleaner to remove older than a week Restore Points.