Backup and Restore

After my recent episode, I thought I'd better create a system repair
disc. Microsoft says[1] to open Backup and Restore in Control Panel
and then in the left pane click "Create a system repair disc".

But when I click Backup and Restore, nothing happens. I tried half a
dozen of the other Control Panel applets, and they all open fine.
But "Backup and Restore" and its two sub-items, "Back up your
computer" and "Restore files from backup" do absolutely nothing.

I wonder if this is because I have Acronis TrueImage Home 2011
installed?

I'm not overly concerned about not creating a system repair disc,
since I now know I can restore from my backup and then do a repair
with a Win 7 install disc. Still, I'm curious about why Backup and
Restore is deactivated.



[1] http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...eate-a-system-
repair-disc

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http://OakRoadSystems.com
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On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:56:26 -0400, Stan Brown
<> wrote:

>
>After my recent episode, I thought I'd better create a system repair
>disc. Microsoft says[1] to open Backup and Restore in Control Panel
>and then in the left pane click "Create a system repair disc".
>
>But when I click Backup and Restore, nothing happens. I tried half a
>dozen of the other Control Panel applets, and they all open fine.
>But "Backup and Restore" and its two sub-items, "Back up your
>computer" and "Restore files from backup" do absolutely nothing.
>
>I wonder if this is because I have Acronis TrueImage Home 2011
>installed?
>
>I'm not overly concerned about not creating a system repair disc,
>since I now know I can restore from my backup and then do a repair
>with a Win 7 install disc. Still, I'm curious about why Backup and
>Restore is deactivated.
>
>
>
>[1] http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...eate-a-system-
>repair-disc

On one of my Win 7 systems, I have Acronis True Image Home 2012
installed and when I open Control Panel like you describe, the main
thing I see there is Acronis, but over on the left side there's an
item called "Turn on Windows Backup" which implies that it's currently
disabled. I'm guessing your theory about Acronis taking over seems to
make sense.

--

Char Jackson

Following up on my inability to open Backup and Restore, I tried
clicking the Start button and then typing "system repair disc" (in
quotes). That gave me "Create a system repair disc", which *did*
open.

So I put a blank disc in my drive and I clicked on "Create disc".
Immediately an error popped up:

"System repair disc could not be created
"The parameter is incorrect. (0x80070057)"

Windows 7 Forums says[1] that this comes about because the recovery
partition was deleted, which in a way is true (actually, it never
existed on this hard disk). The workaround, apparently,[2] is to
boot from the Windows 7 install disc and use the recdisc command.
But I don't have a Windows install disc because Dell doesn't provide
one.

I'm not actually asking for help here, just sharing information.
Thankfully, there are multiple paths to getting the system up and
running again after a disaster. I wanted a repair disc because I'm a
suspenders-and-belt man, but since I have one recovery method that
works I don't feel that a second method is essential.

[1] http://www.sevenforums.com/performan...172462-system-
repair-disk-could-not-created.html

[2] http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...rum/windows_7-
system/cannot-create-recovery-disc-getting-the-parameter/50e514b3-
36f3-4ae9-bb3a-69db19cdd06f?page=2

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http://OakRoadSystems.com
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:14:06 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:56:26 -0400, Stan Brown
> <> wrote:

> >I wonder if this is because I have Acronis TrueImage Home 2011
> >installed?
>
> On one of my Win 7 systems, I have Acronis True Image Home 2012
> installed and when I open Control Panel like you describe, the main
> thing I see there is Acronis, but over on the left side there's an
> item called "Turn on Windows Backup" which implies that it's currently
> disabled. I'm guessing your theory about Acronis taking over seems to
> make sense.

Thanks for replying.

You see Acronis in Control Panel? I don't. Unless I'm looking in
the wrong place, that must be a difference between TI 2012 (you) and
2011 (me).

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

Stan Brown wrote:
> After my recent episode, I thought I'd better create a system repair
> disc. Microsoft says[1] to open Backup and Restore in Control Panel
> and then in the left pane click "Create a system repair disc".
>
> But when I click Backup and Restore, nothing happens. I tried half a
> dozen of the other Control Panel applets, and they all open fine.
> But "Backup and Restore" and its two sub-items, "Back up your
> computer" and "Restore files from backup" do absolutely nothing.
>
> I wonder if this is because I have Acronis TrueImage Home 2011
> installed?
>
> I'm not overly concerned about not creating a system repair disc,
> since I now know I can restore from my backup and then do a repair
> with a Win 7 install disc. Still, I'm curious about why Backup and
> Restore is deactivated.
>
>
>
> [1] http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...eate-a-system-
> repair-disc
>

Just for fun, try this

sdclt.exe /configure

Once you enter that, right click on the entry and select "Run as Administrator".

I had a problem with my Windows 7 install, and that comes to mind.
It took me forever to find that.

That still doesn't fix the buttons that are broken in the interface,
but I suspect that'll get you far enough to complete your task. It
won't fix the other things that will also be broken.

And I don't use Acronis and haven't tested Acronis on that system.
I don't know what broke mine. A possibly theory is, it's related
to the backup package Acer included on the laptop, "NTI something
or other". Apparently, backup packages like to subvert the buttons.
Maybe it was a combination of built-in backup, plus the installation
of SP1 ?

Paul

Stan Brown wrote:
> Following up on my inability to open Backup and Restore, I tried
> clicking the Start button and then typing "system repair disc" (in
> quotes). That gave me "Create a system repair disc", which *did*
> open.
>
> So I put a blank disc in my drive and I clicked on "Create disc".
> Immediately an error popped up:
>
> "System repair disc could not be created
> "The parameter is incorrect. (0x80070057)"
>
> Windows 7 Forums says[1] that this comes about because the recovery
> partition was deleted, which in a way is true (actually, it never
> existed on this hard disk). The workaround, apparently,[2] is to
> boot from the Windows 7 install disc and use the recdisc command.
> But I don't have a Windows install disc because Dell doesn't provide
> one.
>
> I'm not actually asking for help here, just sharing information.
> Thankfully, there are multiple paths to getting the system up and
> running again after a disaster. I wanted a repair disc because I'm a
> suspenders-and-belt man, but since I have one recovery method that
> works I don't feel that a second method is essential.
>
> [1] http://www.sevenforums.com/performan...172462-system-
> repair-disk-could-not-created.html
>
> [2] http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...rum/windows_7-
> system/cannot-create-recovery-disc-getting-the-parameter/50e514b3-
> 36f3-4ae9-bb3a-69db19cdd06f?page=2
>

The creation of a System Repair (not reinstall) CD, should be able
to function for even retail system users. It shouldn't be tied to
any 15GB hidden partitions like the one on my laptop. (It shouldn't
be plucking files out of there. The files should already be on C:
or in the SYSTEM RESERVED 100MB partition.)

This is going to seem puzzling, but it's possible the software
is doing generic Backup and Restore type functions, before making
your CD. Doing a check it doesn't actually need to do. Perhaps it *is* the
missing 15GB partition, but only in the sense that the disk partition
setup, doesn't match something seen at an earlier time. At the
moment, I haven't got a clue for you, as to what it wants to see.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...1-8c0736c5fd1a

"Normdeb Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:59 PM

This does not just apply to restoring. I have the same error
when I was trying to create my restore iso. The answers above
make me think, just maybe. Remove my pendrives from the machine
and tried again and bingo!
"

So it could be, that *some* drive configuration thing, is preventing
you from making your 200MB CD. A difference in partitions, a difference
in currently connected drives.

Just a guess,
Paul

On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:22:08 -0400, Stan Brown
<> wrote:

>>
>You see Acronis in Control Panel? I don't. Unless I'm looking in
>the wrong place, that must be a difference between TI 2012 (you) and
>2011 (me).

Char's comment prompted me to have a look at "Control Panel / Backup
and Restore". I also see Acronis True Image Home 2012 within the
panel. I have stored a PNG file at
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?tt19qq1lcu99vzy from which you can
either view or download, as you wish.

> On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:22:08 -0400, Stan Brown
> <> wrote:
>
>>>
>> You see Acronis in Control Panel? I don't. Unless I'm looking in
>> the wrong place, that must be a difference between TI 2012 (you) and
>> 2011 (me).
>
> Char's comment prompted me to have a look at "Control Panel / Backup
> and Restore". I also see Acronis True Image Home 2012 within the
> panel. I have stored a PNG file at
> http://www.mediafire.com/i/?tt19qq1lcu99vzy from which you can
> either view or download, as you wish.

I am using Acronis 2011 and I see exactly what you do.

--
mick

On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:30:48 +1100, Monty <> wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:22:08 -0400, Stan Brown
><> wrote:
>
>>>
>>You see Acronis in Control Panel? I don't. Unless I'm looking in
>>the wrong place, that must be a difference between TI 2012 (you) and
>>2011 (me).
>
>Char's comment prompted me to have a look at "Control Panel / Backup
>and Restore". I also see Acronis True Image Home 2012 within the
>panel. I have stored a PNG file at
> http://www.mediafire.com/i/?tt19qq1lcu99vzy from which you can
>either view or download, as you wish.

Thanks for doing that and saving me the trouble. As Stan will see, the
Acronis options are located within the Backup and Restore section in
Control Panel, at least with the 2012 version.

--

Char Jackson

On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:30:48 +1100, Monty wrote:
>
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:22:08 -0400, Stan Brown
> <> wrote:
>
> >>
> >You see Acronis in Control Panel? I don't. Unless I'm looking in
> >the wrong place, that must be a difference between TI 2012 (you) and
> >2011 (me).
>
> Char's comment prompted me to have a look at "Control Panel / Backup
> and Restore". I also see Acronis True Image Home 2012 within the
> panel. I have stored a PNG file at
> http://www.mediafire.com/i/?tt19qq1lcu99vzy from which you can
> either view or download, as you wish.

Thanks for clarifying, and for the picture.

As I posted, I can't even open Backup and Restore, so I can't
determine whether mine has Acronis TI 2011 on it. :-)


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Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
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