Anytime Upgrade

I did a upgrade from Starter to Home on a Toshiba netbook. I guess the
upgrade key I got would allow a clean install from one of the dvd's I
have ?

This netbook is slow compared to a clean install of Win 7 on a eee pc
that came with XP.

I have tried disabling Toshiba utilities, any security software and any
other programs that might doing the dirty deed.

Unless it is the netbook hardware, I thought doing a clean install may
solve the problem.

Any thoughts




KenW

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:49:12 -0600, Ken1943 <> wrote:

> I did a upgrade from Starter to Home on a Toshiba netbook. I guess the
> upgrade key I got would allow a clean install from one of the dvd's I
> have ?
>
> This netbook is slow compared to a clean install of Win 7 on a eee pc
> that came with XP.
>
> I have tried disabling Toshiba utilities, any security software and any
> other programs that might doing the dirty deed.
>
> Unless it is the netbook hardware, I thought doing a clean install may
> solve the problem.



Highly unlikely that a clean installation would make a difference. The
difference in performance is very likely the difference in the
hardware. What are the hardware configurations of the two machines?

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:14:18 -0700, Ken Blake <> wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:49:12 -0600, Ken1943 <> wrote:
>
>> I did a upgrade from Starter to Home on a Toshiba netbook. I guess the
>> upgrade key I got would allow a clean install from one of the dvd's I
>> have ?
>>
>> This netbook is slow compared to a clean install of Win 7 on a eee pc
>> that came with XP.
>>
>> I have tried disabling Toshiba utilities, any security software and any
>> other programs that might doing the dirty deed.
>>
>> Unless it is the netbook hardware, I thought doing a clean install may
>> solve the problem.
>
>
>
>Highly unlikely that a clean installation would make a difference. The
>difference in performance is very likely the difference in the
>hardware. What are the hardware configurations of the two machines?

Both are Atom 1.6 gig and 2 gig ram. Both have the same programs running.
The one program I use is Outpost Security Suite and notice the biggest
difference on a quick scan when an update is installed. Seems like the
scan takes longer on the Toshiba and both machines have the same settings
in OSS.

The Toshiba has all their utilities and thought that they may be the
cause. I used Autoruns to shut them down, but no help.


KenW

In message <>, Ken1943
<> writes:
>On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:14:18 -0700, Ken Blake <> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:49:12 -0600, Ken1943 <> wrote:
>>
>>> I did a upgrade from Starter to Home on a Toshiba netbook. I guess the
>>> upgrade key I got would allow a clean install from one of the dvd's I
>>> have ?
>>>
>>> This netbook is slow compared to a clean install of Win 7 on a eee pc
>>> that came with XP.
>>>
>>> I have tried disabling Toshiba utilities, any security software and any
>>> other programs that might doing the dirty deed.
>>>
>>> Unless it is the netbook hardware, I thought doing a clean install may
>>> solve the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>Highly unlikely that a clean installation would make a difference. The
>>difference in performance is very likely the difference in the
>>hardware. What are the hardware configurations of the two machines?
>
>Both are Atom 1.6 gig and 2 gig ram. Both have the same programs running.
>The one program I use is Outpost Security Suite and notice the biggest
>difference on a quick scan when an update is installed. Seems like the
>scan takes longer on the Toshiba and both machines have the same settings
>in OSS.
[]
Do both yield the same "Windows Experience Index" or whatever it's
called?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

# 10^-12 boos = 1 picoboo # 2*10^3 mockingbirds = 2 kilo mockingbird
# 10^21 piccolos = 1 gigolo # 10^12 microphones = 1 megaphone
# 10**9 questions = 1 gigawhat

>Do both yield the same "Windows Experience Index" or whatever it's
>called?

I would have to look again. I thought the 'WEI' didn't mean crap.


KenW

The Toshiba failed because it could not measure the video playback
performance.

Interesting, let me check the video drivers.

From the previous run, the Toshiba was slightly faster than the EEE PC.





KenW

If I remember correctly the anytime upgrade key cannot be used as an install
key. There may be a workaround, but I have not heard of it.

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:14:18 -0700, Ken Blake <> wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:49:12 -0600, Ken1943 <> wrote:
>
>> I did a upgrade from Starter to Home on a Toshiba netbook. I guess the
>> upgrade key I got would allow a clean install from one of the dvd's I
>> have ?
>>
>> This netbook is slow compared to a clean install of Win 7 on a eee pc
>> that came with XP.
>>
>> I have tried disabling Toshiba utilities, any security software and any
>> other programs that might doing the dirty deed.
>>
>> Unless it is the netbook hardware, I thought doing a clean install may
>> solve the problem.
>
>
>
>Highly unlikely that a clean installation would make a difference. The
>difference in performance is very likely the difference in the
>hardware. What are the hardware configurations of the two machines?

I have to agree with you. Looks like the chipset in the Toshiba can't
handle the I/O speed that the chipset in the EEE PC can.


KenW

Ken1943 wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:14:18 -0700, Ken Blake <> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:49:12 -0600, Ken1943 <> wrote:
>>
>>> I did a upgrade from Starter to Home on a Toshiba netbook. I guess the
>>> upgrade key I got would allow a clean install from one of the dvd's I
>>> have ?
>>>
>>> This netbook is slow compared to a clean install of Win 7 on a eee pc
>>> that came with XP.
>>>
>>> I have tried disabling Toshiba utilities, any security software and any
>>> other programs that might doing the dirty deed.
>>>
>>> Unless it is the netbook hardware, I thought doing a clean install may
>>> solve the problem.
>>
>>
>> Highly unlikely that a clean installation would make a difference. The
>> difference in performance is very likely the difference in the
>> hardware. What are the hardware configurations of the two machines?
>
> I have to agree with you. Looks like the chipset in the Toshiba can't
> handle the I/O speed that the chipset in the EEE PC can.
>
>
> KenW

Try the HDTune benchmark and report back. If you see
a "curve" for a result, that would be normal. If you
see a "flat line" then something is wrong. The only
time a "flat line" is acceptable, is for an SSD, USB flash,
or a software RAMDisk.

http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe

This is a RAMDisk back when I was testing it. This is a flat
line. If your rotating hard drive is in PIO Mode (polled transfer),
then transfers will be limited to the 4 to 7MB/sec range and there
will be heavy CPU usage. PIO Mode is the one to avoid, for any drive.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8...am2gbabove.gif

This is a regular (rotating) hard drive. The curve has about a
2:1 ratio between the best and worst parts of the curve. If both machines
have rotating hard drives, and the transfer mode is DMA as it should be,
it will look like this. Older drives, the scale of the graph will
be reduced (60MB/sec at start down to maybe 30MB/sec near the end).
But the results should still be better than when a drive is stuck in
"flat line" PIO mode.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/698...rk500gbst3.png

Paul

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:50:22 -0400, Paul <> wrote:

>Ken1943 wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:14:18 -0700, Ken Blake <> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:49:12 -0600, Ken1943 <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did a upgrade from Starter to Home on a Toshiba netbook. I guess the
>>>> upgrade key I got would allow a clean install from one of the dvd's I
>>>> have ?
>>>>
>>>> This netbook is slow compared to a clean install of Win 7 on a eee pc
>>>> that came with XP.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried disabling Toshiba utilities, any security software and any
>>>> other programs that might doing the dirty deed.
>>>>
>>>> Unless it is the netbook hardware, I thought doing a clean install may
>>>> solve the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> Highly unlikely that a clean installation would make a difference. The
>>> difference in performance is very likely the difference in the
>>> hardware. What are the hardware configurations of the two machines?
>>
>> I have to agree with you. Looks like the chipset in the Toshiba can't
>> handle the I/O speed that the chipset in the EEE PC can.
>>
>>
>> KenW
>
>Try the HDTune benchmark and report back. If you see
>a "curve" for a result, that would be normal. If you
>see a "flat line" then something is wrong. The only
>time a "flat line" is acceptable, is for an SSD, USB flash,
>or a software RAMDisk.
>
>http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe
>
>This is a RAMDisk back when I was testing it. This is a flat
>line. If your rotating hard drive is in PIO Mode (polled transfer),
>then transfers will be limited to the 4 to 7MB/sec range and there
>will be heavy CPU usage. PIO Mode is the one to avoid, for any drive.
>
>http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8...am2gbabove.gif
>
>This is a regular (rotating) hard drive. The curve has about a
>2:1 ratio between the best and worst parts of the curve. If both machines
>have rotating hard drives, and the transfer mode is DMA as it should be,
>it will look like this. Older drives, the scale of the graph will
>be reduced (60MB/sec at start down to maybe 30MB/sec near the end).
>But the results should still be better than when a drive is stuck in
>"flat line" PIO mode.
>
>http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/698...rk500gbst3.png
>
> Paul
I tried one drive test program which showed similar results on both. I
will try HDtune though. There is not many options with the bios in
netbooks.
In device manager, the chipset can not even be seen. It's tied to the
Atom processor. I was able to update the driver and the update shows in
the registry. Found the chipset on Intel's site and it's listed as
compatible with Win 7 Starter and Home, but not Home Prem. or higher.


KenW