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      03-03-2010
I'd be interested to know if there are any users here that are able to analyse MiniDump files to help with crash analysis? I'd like to try and get an article on the site that would explain how users can diagnose BSODs and other crashes, however I'm no expert when it comes to dump files.

I know TorrentG had some experience in this, but I've not seen him around for a while. Are there any other users on here that know much about this, so that I could seek some advice to write an article?
 
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No im not, but I would like to know what kind of books I should read to learn more about reading mini dumps.
 
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Those have always been "Greek" to me.

I need to read up on how to analyze them though.
 
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      03-04-2010
Minidump analysis is actually rather easy once it gets broken down for you. I learned how to do it via this article: http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=35246
 
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      03-04-2010
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Minidump analysis is actually rather easy once it gets broken down for you. I learned how to do it via this article: http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=35246
Thanks! I'll have a read of this and start learning more about it, then once I've got to grips with it I'll get an article on here.
 
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      10-21-2010
I've made this thread a sticky in hopes of finding more help with Minidump Analysis.
 
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      10-21-2010
It is something to which you must be dedicated. I did install all the software and, like thrax, used a help page to work through it. I have used it from time to time but would noy consider myself knowledgeable enough to give advice in a tutorial.
Truth ios, I was dissappointed with the results. Basically it always came down to updating all the dreivers, although one small advantage was that sometimes you could pinpoint a particular driver. Sometimes known software comes into the problem,,l often Norton and AVG products.

In the end, when in time and able, my better advice to users has become a question of ignoring the Windows backup and directing them to an image program right from the start. It usually works out (about 20 minutes max) faster than dump hunting, as you can see from some of the Threads on the site.(worst case running currently 3 weeks!)
I realise that, all things being equal, if the user reloads all that he has piut on since the image, the problem may occur again, but I would consider this an easier fault finding option.

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      10-21-2010
Here is the resource needed to truly get started:

http://www.sevenforums.com/crash-loc...ing-tools.html

Once a crash dump is opened and it doesn't clearly show the issue like most times, type lmtn in the bottom then press enter. All pre-July 2009 drivers should be updated.

Sptd.sys always needs to be removed no matter what. Uninstaller/installer = DuplexSecure - Downloads

LogMeIn always needs to be removed no matter what.

Old wireless adapter drivers are particularly notorious as are Razer drivers.

If you type lmvm drivername here (for example: lmvm ASACPI) then press enter, it will show the driver's details.

All Realtek HD Audio drivers get updated from here: RtkHDAudio

This updates the 8111 Realtek lan driver, which is most prevalent: RTL8111

Here are the a/v removal tools: AV Uninstallers - Windows 7 Forums

Whenever there's an old ASACPI driver from 2005, it must be updated to the latest ATK0110 driver installer in my attachments.

0x7f errors involving NETIO.sys are always caused by ZoneAlarm. You can also see vsdatant.sys present.

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With a little bit of practice and above info, anyone can be an expert over time.

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When all drivers finally appear well and there are still failures in Microsoft kernel or other drivers, there is a memory defect or incorrect RAM setting in the bios (or overclocking.)
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      10-21-2010
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No im not, but I would like to know what kind of books I should read to learn more about reading mini dumps.
I realize I'm responding to an old post, but thought it helpful anyhow to anyone interested.

If you really would like to learn bsod analysis very quickly, follow my previous post, then go and open crash dumps from any of the threads and notice my responses.

Try to see what I've said compared to what the dumps show and perhaps make a mental note to remember scenarios. Like, what did I say when there were mostly 0x116 tdr stops?

This is how to handle 0x124 stops, once all drivers are satisfied as well:
http://www.sevenforums.com/crash-loc...-what-try.html

It'd be great to see any existing or new members trying to help with analysis and post their findings. That would be an even better way to learn and become involved.

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Read a book entitiled "Windows Internals" by Microsoft system expert Mark Russinovich, if you want to become even more advanced.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963901.aspx


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Another great resource is Addison Wesley's "Advanced Windows Debugging".

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      10-22-2010
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It'd be great to see any existing or new members trying to help with analysis and post their findings. That would be an even better way to learn and become involved.
I have seriously been thinking about trying since the day you started folding.

I mentioned such efforts long before but wasn't as serious. I have everything setup now, including the symbols. Tried out the lmvm command and then noticed, there is a link to automatically give the command. Think I am going to follow alone with you on the next few minidumps and see if I can arrive at the same conclusions.
 
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