Where are all MVPs?

Where are all MVPs these days? Have they all been fired?

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On 27-Mar-12 9:59 AM, Good Guy wrote:
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> Where are all MVPs these days? Have they all been fired?
>

MVPs were found in the Microsoft sanctioned groups, which MS shut down &
migrated to internet forums.

BobbyM wrote:
> On 27-Mar-12 9:59 AM, Good Guy wrote:
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>> Where are all MVPs these days? Have they all been fired?
>>
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> MVPs were found in the Microsoft sanctioned groups, which MS shut down
> & migrated to internet forums.

OK thanks for the swift reply.

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Good Guy wrote:
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> BobbyM wrote:
>> On 27-Mar-12 9:59 AM, Good Guy wrote:
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>>> Where are all MVPs these days? Have they all been fired?
>>>
>> MVPs were found in the Microsoft sanctioned groups, which MS shut down
>> & migrated to internet forums.
>
> OK thanks for the swift reply.
>

This particular group (alt.windows7.general) was never sanctioned by Microsoft.

MVPs used to hang out around microsoft.* groups (perhaps 1500+ groups).
The groups originally started on a Microsoft server, but other servers
started to carry them as well. Microsoft eventually decided it was time
to shut down its own microsoft.* server. But since it was never managed
by sending official newgroup or rmgroup commands, other server admins
did not have a strong incentive to shut down their microsoft.* groups.
That means the microsoft.* groups still run, just not on a Microsoft owned
server. There could be hundreds of other USENET servers with
microsoft.* groups, all offering and accepting messages from one
another for those groups. It means if you post in microsoft.*, you
still get world-wide propagation.

Microsoft moved to web forums, and the MVPs for the most part, moved
to the web forums as well. Only a couple MVPs show up occasionally
on USENET. Another drops in every couple of months.

Since USENET participants would no longer be offered MVP status
for answering questions on USENET, there's no longer a "competition"
for MVP status out here. And I have no idea what status Microsoft
offers answerers on the web forums. Microsoft seems to have some
"lame staff" who answer questions over there (they're technical
people, but they lack communications skills and the ability to
figure out what question the asker is really asking).

And if you visit those forums, you'll understand why some of us
out here aren't interested in them. There is still good technical
content to be obtained on the Microsoft web servers - just use a
search engine to find it. As asking a question over there, might
be slightly frustrating.

Paul

How many are you trying to find ?

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In message <jkr3nk$sa2$>, BobbyM
<> writes:
>On 27-Mar-12 9:59 AM, Good Guy wrote:
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>>
>> Where are all MVPs these days? Have they all been fired?
>>
>
>MVPs were found in the Microsoft sanctioned groups, which MS shut down
>& migrated to internet forums.

As another has explained, MS no longer give credit for help posted on
usenet. I wonder if they actually disapprove of, or at least "deprecate"
(I hate that word!), assistance given here.

(And thanks for being here Winston at least!)
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <> wrote:

> As another has explained, MS no longer give credit for help posted
> on usenet. I wonder if they actually disapprove of, or at least
> "deprecate" (I hate that word!), assistance given here.

They certainly don't disapprove or deprecate, MSFT neither knows or
cares what's posted on Usenet.


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Hi, Guy.

> Where are all MVPs these days? Have they all been fired?

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Microsoft couldn't fire us because they never hired us. ;^}

Microsoft Most Valuable Professionals have always been volunteers. Most of
us were offering whatever help we could for decades before the MVP program
even existed. To encourage us to continue, Microsoft created the MVP Award
which recognized us for the work that we had done in the past. They did not
require us to do anything because that would have made us their employees;
they would have had to pay us and provide other employee benefits.

When I was first offered the award in 2002, I hesitated. I worried, among
other things, that I would be expect to "follow the company line" and say
only good things about Microsoft. But they assured me that there were no
such restrictions. I soon learned that Microsoft considered MVPs among
their most constructive - and most vocal - critics. In the past few years,
though, two trends have been evident. First is the move of Microsoft
support from Usenet to social networks, from Forums to Twitter and beyond.
Second is the perception (mine, at least) that the MVP award now recognizes
"evangelism" more and user support less than in the past.

Since I'm an old fogy who never got comfy in Forums, much less Facebook et
al, my participation in the modern venues has been very low, and I
understandably did not receive the MVP award at my October 1, 2010,
anniversary date. Many of my colleagues also were not renewed; those who
made the transition to Forums remain.

So, there are only a few MVPs in Usenet these days because nearly all of us
have either (a) migrated to Forums and out of Usenet or (b) lost our MVP
status because we did not do (a). :>( I'm very happy that Winston
(...winston) and a few other intrepid experts continue to participate in
both universes.

Microsoft has discarded Usenet, a support network that has served millions
of users well for many years - and continues to do so without Microsoft's
participation. I'm not bitter about this, but I am very disappointed and
unhappy. And I'm still proud to say that I was an MVP for 8 years. ;^}

RC
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Most of the MVP's are over at the microsoft Web Forums and you have a few that show
up on different servers and on different groups on those servers.

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> Where are all MVPs these days? Have they all been fired?
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In message <XnsA02355EC59F07xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1>, XS11E
<> writes:
>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <> wrote:
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>> As another has explained, MS no longer give credit for help posted
>> on usenet. I wonder if they actually disapprove of, or at least
>> "deprecate" (I hate that word!), assistance given here.
>
>They certainly don't disapprove or deprecate, MSFT neither knows or
>cares what's posted on Usenet.
>
>
I suspect they do, both. (For the second, care, just try posting
something that $£%T%$£$£$
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