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Sparky
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      06-16-2011
Firstly , I apologise if this should be posted elsewhere.

Main machine Win 7 / 64 up to date etc.

I was given a HP Athlon X2 6000 running Vista because it was blue screening.
I re installed from scratch , updated to SP2 and it's running like a dream.

All good.

I created the same 2 users I have on my Win 7 machine...same HOMEGROUP etc .
I always run as a Limited User.

Win 7 could see and access both user accounts on Vista but when I tried to
access the Win 7 from Vista I was prompted for credentials .

I entered my Limited User credentials as that's the account I'd normally be
running , but now , when I log into the Admin account on the Vista machine
I get

\\computer not accessible. The user has not been granted the requested log
on type for this computer.....

Just to clarify , I CAN access the Win 7 box from the Vista Limited account
, just not the Vista Admin account.

Thanks once again..

 
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      06-16-2011
On 06/15/2011 10:49 PM, Sparky wrote:
> Firstly , I apologise if this should be posted elsewhere.
>
> Main machine Win 7 / 64 up to date etc.
>
> I was given a HP Athlon X2 6000 running Vista because it was blue
> screening. I re installed from scratch , updated to SP2 and it's running
> like a dream.
>
> All good.
>
> I created the same 2 users I have on my Win 7 machine...same HOMEGROUP
> etc . I always run as a Limited User.
>
> Win 7 could see and access both user accounts on Vista but when I tried
> to access the Win 7 from Vista I was prompted for credentials .
>
> I entered my Limited User credentials as that's the account I'd normally
> be running , but now , when I log into the Admin account on the Vista
> machine I get
>
> \\computer not accessible. The user has not been granted the requested
> log on type for this computer.....
>
> Just to clarify , I CAN access the Win 7 box from the Vista Limited
> account , just not the Vista Admin account.
>
> Thanks once again..
>



Hi Sparky,

I am confused as to what you are asking, so I am going
to answer about the admin account. By default the "home"
editions have the administrator's account turned off.
Here is my notes on the subject. They are written
for me, so parts may not be understandable to you.

Did I come close to what you were asking?

-T


How to active the disabled Vista and Windows 7 Administrator's account:

Net user administrator /active:yes Note the "R" "user" not "use"


If this does not work (Access Denied), create a batch file:

Net user administrator /active:yes
pause

And right click on it with Windows Explorer and "run as Administrator"



If you do not have the proper password, you have to use your:
Offline.NT.PasswordRegEditor-cd080802.iso
disk to both activate the Administrator's account and blank out its
password.
http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/
 
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      06-16-2011
Sparky wrote:

> Main machine Win 7 / 64 up to date etc. ...
> I created the same 2 users I have on my Win 7 machine...same HOMEGROUP ...
> ...when I tried to access the Win 7 from Vista ...


Don't use homegroups. That is a Windows 7 thing. Pre-7 versions of
Windows don't understand homegroups. They can't join homegroups. In
Windows 7, just use workgroups to eliminate the headaches if you intend
to share resources from Windows 7 with earlier versions of Windows.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/e...6-ACC918BA7AF2
 
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Rodney Pont
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      06-16-2011
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:49:32 -0700, Sparky wrote:

>I created the same 2 users I have on my Win 7 machine...same HOMEGROUP etc .
>I always run as a Limited User.


Does Vista have HOMEGROUP? I thought that was new in W7. If so have to
change W7 to use a WORKGROUP. If I've got it wrong no doubt some kind
person will put me right :-)

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Ken Blake
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      06-16-2011
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:52:18 -0500, VanguardLH <> wrote:


> Don't use homegroups. That is a Windows 7 thing. Pre-7 versions of
> Windows don't understand homegroups. They can't join homegroups. In
> Windows 7, just use workgroups to eliminate the headaches if you intend
> to share resources from Windows 7 with earlier versions of Windows.



I'll be even stronger. There's no advantage to using a homegroup
instead of a workgroup, so I recommend using a workgroup even if you
*don't* intend to add other non-Windows 7 computers to it; your needs
may change in the future.

 
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      06-16-2011


"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:49:32 -0700, Sparky wrote:

>I created the same 2 users I have on my Win 7 machine...same HOMEGROUP etc
>.
>I always run as a Limited User.


Does Vista have HOMEGROUP? I thought that was new in W7. If so have to
change W7 to use a WORKGROUP. If I've got it wrong no doubt some kind
person will put me right :-)

--
Regards - Rodney Pont
The from address exists but is mostly dumped,
please send any emails to the address below
e-mail rpont (at) gmail (dot) com

My apologies....I'm referring to WORKGROUPS with Vista / Win 7.

The problem is I was prompted for credentials from the Limited Vista account
to access the Win 7. I supplied them and all is well however , I receive no
prompt from the Vista / Admin account and can not access the Win 7 Box. Same
usernames and passwords on both machines.

 
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      06-16-2011
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:31:34 -0700, "Sparky" <> wrote:


> Does Vista have HOMEGROUP? I thought that was new in W7. If so have to
> change W7 to use a WORKGROUP. If I've got it wrong no doubt some kind
> person will put me right :-)



You've got it right. Only Windows 7 has homegroups.
 
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      06-16-2011
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:56:26 -0700, Ken Blake <>
wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:31:34 -0700, "Sparky" <> wrote:
>
>
> > Does Vista have HOMEGROUP? I thought that was new in W7. If so have to
> > change W7 to use a WORKGROUP. If I've got it wrong no doubt some kind
> > person will put me right :-)

>
>
> You've got it right. Only Windows 7 has homegroups.



Sorry, I replied to the wrong person. It wasn't Sparky who said the
above, it was Rodney Point.

But the reason I replied to the wrong person is that Sparky is using
Windows Live Mail, and his quotes are all screwed up. Please, either
dump Windows Live Mail or fix your quoting manually. Reading Windows
Live Mail messages is such a pain that I'm on the verge of just
killfiling everyone I see using it.
 
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      06-16-2011
Ken Blake wrote:

> Sorry, I replied to the wrong person. It wasn't Sparky who said the
> above, it was Rodney Point.
>
> But the reason I replied to the wrong person is that Sparky is using
> Windows Live Mail, and his quotes are all screwed up. Please, either
> dump Windows Live Mail or fix your quoting manually. Reading Windows
> Live Mail messages is such a pain that I'm on the verge of just
> killfiling everyone I see using it.


He also is lazy in adding his new content AFTER wherever his client
inserts the sigdash line. Everything after the sigdash line is the
*signature*, not the body of the post, and many clients strip out the
signature fluff. I said "lazy" because OE and WLM users more than
others don't bother to *review* their posts before submitting them.

I already color-tag all posts submitted using v15, or later, of WLM. It
lets me know that the post is very likely screwed up. If v16 doesn't
correct the quoting problem (or just does away with NNTP altogether and
focus on being an e-mail-only client) then it would easily to switch the
filter from colorizing to flagging as ignored (my default view is to
hide ignore-flagged posts).
 
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      06-17-2011
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:29:44 -0500, VanguardLH <> wrote:

> Ken Blake wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I replied to the wrong person. It wasn't Sparky who said the
> > above, it was Rodney Point.
> >
> > But the reason I replied to the wrong person is that Sparky is using
> > Windows Live Mail, and his quotes are all screwed up. Please, either
> > dump Windows Live Mail or fix your quoting manually. Reading Windows
> > Live Mail messages is such a pain that I'm on the verge of just
> > killfiling everyone I see using it.

>
> He also is lazy in adding his new content AFTER wherever his client
> inserts the sigdash line. Everything after the sigdash line is the
> *signature*, not the body of the post, and many clients strip out the
> signature fluff.



Yep! Mine (Agent) does by default, although I have that default turned
off.


> I said "lazy" because OE and WLM users more than
> others don't bother to *review* their posts before submitting them.



Yep.

 
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